Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?
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@Majestic-Catfish was dissatisfied with my formulation of his position in our last debate, so we'll restart this. His position now holds:
Jesus' (as a person) existence seems to be improbable to me
my position thus is
I consider Jesus' existence as a human being to be propable
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- External evidence must be come from credible sources.
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Will you start?
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@pe7erpark3r
I agree with my position.Jesus was a fictional character
I agree with your every rule.
Warning for others- They cannot participate in this debate. This debate will be pursuing between 1 vs 1. They can enjoy this debate or can comment only.I add my rules- If there are some reasons given for an argument, we have to quote every reason for that argument.
2. An evidence must be come from credible sources. It must not be come from an unknown source. Here is an article for checking any website's credibility.
3. We will not discuss anything into PMs, we will discuss everything in here.
4. We will divide sources for his existence first. And then we will pick one source and let ourselves reply. Pet will do it first because he asserts. -
@Majestic-Catfish said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
I add my rules
- If there are some reasons given for an argument, we have to quote every reason for that argument.
I disagree with this rule. If you quote every reason for every argument, you'll have endless posts (or all posts will be 500 words long). You state your argument, you provide enough reasons for it, not every reason. Then if I can counter, you can answer my counter with more information if need be. If I cannot counter, or agree with what you write, it makes no sense to provide huge amounts of evidence.
- An evidence must be come from credible sources. It must not be come from an unknown source. Here is an article for checking any website's credibility.
- We will not discuss anything into PMs, we will discuss everything in here.
I agree with 2 and 3.
- We will divide sources for his existence first. And then we will pick one source and let ourselves reply. Pet will do it first because he asserts.
I do not understand rule number 4... dividing sources? you mean sharing? why pick one source? why pick any source?
I will start with an argument, but not now, I have no more time. If, and only if I need external evidence, I will provide it. Usually I will go with wikipedia, since there you have the reference to other articles and can check the reasons for the reasons for the reasons and so on.
In fact I would like to add another rule:
- Evidence must only provided if needed. E.g. we often make assertions assuming the other side will agree and knows why. Thus in many cases evidence must only be provided if the other side disagrees.
Like this our arguments become shorter. Commenters may also ask for evidence, and then we might provide.
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@pe7erpark3r said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
@Majestic-Catfish said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
I add my rules
- If there are some reasons given for an argument, we have to quote every reason for that argument.
I disagree with this rule. If you quote every reason for every argument, you'll have endless posts (or all posts will be 500 words long). You state your argument, you provide enough reasons for it, not every reason. Then if I can counter, you can answer my counter with more information if need be. If I cannot counter, or agree with what you write, it makes no sense to provide huge amounts of evidence.
Thanks for explaining it. I disagree with you. I can/will not follow this rule. Every reason must be answered properly. You dont answer my reasons and you always go ahead. Words limit can be 500 words approximately with your own answer. Quoted words are not included in those 500 words.
- An evidence must be come from credible sources. It must not be come from an unknown source. Here is an article for checking any website's credibility.
- We will not discuss anything into PMs, we will discuss everything in here.
I agree with 2 and 3.
Alright
- We will divide sources for his existence first. And then we will pick one source and let ourselves reply. Pet will do it first because he asserts.
I do not understand rule number 4... dividing sources? you mean sharing? why pick one source? why pick any source?
I meant you will divide sources such as source no. 1 for Jesus is- Writers, second source is- their disciples, source no.3, source no.4, source no. 5 etc.
I will start with an argument, but not now, I have no more time. If, and only if I need external evidence, I will provide it. Usually I will go with Wikipedia, since there you have the reference to other articles and can check the reasons for the reasons for the reasons and so on.
In fact I would like to add another rule:
- Evidence must only provided if needed. E.g. we often make assertions assuming the other side will agree and knows why. Thus in many cases evidence must only be provided if the other side disagrees.
I absolutely agree with this one.
Like this our arguments become shorter. Commenters may also ask for evidence, and then we might provide.
Okay, I agree with this one.
I will add one more rule-
We will reply as fast as we can. However, we both are busy in our real life. We won't force/mortify each-other to reply quickly though.
I will not agree with below rule-
since we defend our actual personal positions, change in position is possible and reasonable. If it does occur, this requires a new debate.
No we won't change our positions now. I chose this position because you misinterpreted my previous position.
The time you made previous topic, you did not ask me when you were going to make that topic. You suddenly made that topic.
I do not agree with your one more rule-
if there are errors or mistakes (or insults), we agree to apologize and correct ourselves
Rules are rules. They cannot be called rules, if someone violates it.
As far as I know, you were not agree with my rules. Ergo, I will debate on previous topic with you.
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@pe7erpark3r wow that is some set of conditions just to voice an opinion! My own is that he was a real guy but not the son of god who doesn't, for me, exist. Charles Darwin and Bill Hicks colour my views
I'm not chasing anything, just jogging baby, what's your bag?
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Raised by my father as an atheist believing the first God's were aliens B. C. But I will let you guys duke that whole God thing out... I'm going to check out the prehistoric chatrooms... I like those dinosaurs... I've never seen a unicorn... Are they real?
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@Majestic-Catfish said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
Warning for others- They cannot participate in this debate. This debate will be pursuing between 1 vs 1. They can enjoy this debate or can comment only.
Would Jesus Himself be allowed to contribute? Apparently TWS has a user called @Jesus-0 The'0' suggests he was the original.
Actually, forget that. If Jesus is reading this -- and he's serious about falling in with us humans --he'll probably be really strict about FOLLOWING THE RULES.
Friendly neighborhood gobshyne.
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OK let's all go play with our dinosaurs and let them have their fun... They are on their own mission we can check in on them later... Who knows it could get messy and God himself may have to intervene
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Wait... So the Flintstones were not real! Hang on... Sorry I'm going... 😊
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@Indrid-Cold said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
@Majestic-Catfish said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
Warning for others- They cannot participate in this debate. This debate will be pursuing between 1 vs 1. They can enjoy this debate or can comment only.
:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
Would Jesus Himself be allowed to contribute? Apparently TWS has a user called @Jesus-0 The'0' suggests he was the original.
Let me invite him :joy: @Jesus-0. But he sounds to be inactive.
Actually, forget that. If Jesus is reading this -- and he's serious about falling in with us humans --he'll probably be really strict about FOLLOWING THE RULES.
ahahahaha. I wrote that we (pet and me) will debate on this topic and he may join us in this debate. I invite fake Jesus too @jesus-is-15 . He must hold his own position though :joy:
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@Majestic-Catfish Cool. It'll be epic like Avengers Endgame, if it had been limited to just Iron Man and Thanos, (but Rocket is allowed to look on).
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@Scottish said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
@pe7erpark3r wow that is some set of conditions just to voice an opinion! My own is that he was a real guy but not the son of god who doesn't, for me, exist. Charles Darwin and Bill Hicks colour my views
Hehe, you are free to voice your opinion :joy:
But Vex and I are discussing the arguments that speak for and against the existence of the real guy Jesus :yum:
Charles Darwin believed in Jesus to be the son of God, he even studied theology. Don't know Bill Hicks :shrug:
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@Original-Satan said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
@pe7erpark3r said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
@Majestic-Catfish said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
I add my rules
- If there are some reasons given for an argument, we have to quote every reason for that argument.
I disagree with this rule. If you quote every reason for every argument, you'll have endless posts (or all posts will be 500 words long). You state your argument, you provide enough reasons for it, not every reason. Then if I can counter, you can answer my counter with more information if need be. If I cannot counter, or agree with what you write, it makes no sense to provide huge amounts of evidence.
Thanks for explaining it. I disagree with you. I can/will not follow this rule. Every reason must be answered properly. You dont answer my reasons and you always go ahead. Words limit can be 500 words approximately with your own answer. Quoted words are not included in those 500 words.
What I had in mind is that every reason for an argument can be its own argument again. Also, you quoted me 40 bible verses in the past. I just don't have the time to answer all of them. A single contradictive bible verse should be enough to make an argument. You can say that there are more, but you cannot expect me, to answer all of those as a single argument. And besides the question wether the bible is contradictive merits its own whole topic. You cannot expect me to discuss this as a sideshow under another topic. That's just blowing it up. This is what I had in mind when I formulated this rule.
I think we should just go ahead and see how it goes. You don't have to agree with this rule, but keep in mind, that I want more than just a character limit, something that limits the argument to the necessary information.
And that we cannot open a whole book in a single argument. If a single argument cannot be decided to be true, because it is too big to solve in more than 2 or 3 posts, we'll just have to leave that argument aside and live with the fact that we disagree about it. You cannot force me to write a whole book, just to answer you... We have to go ahead. Then we see if the other arguments are enough to decide the debate... If not, we can start a whole new topic about that argument if we want to and if we have the time...
So lets just go ahead and see where this goes...
I meant you will divide sources such as source no. 1 for Jesus is- Writers, second source is- their disciples, source no.3, source no.4, source no. 5 etc.
I still do not understand, but maybe we should just go ahead with this one too. If you are unhappy with the way I argument, you are free to just tell me.
- Evidence must only provided if needed. E.g. we often make assertions assuming the other side will agree and knows why. Thus in many cases evidence must only be provided if the other side disagrees.
I absolutely agree with this one.
Good :smile:
We will reply as fast as we can. However, we both are busy in our real life. We won't force/mortify each-other to reply quickly though.
Sure.
I will not agree with below rule-
since we defend our actual personal positions, change in position is possible and reasonable. If it does occur, this requires a new debate.
No we won't change our positions now. I chose this position because you misinterpreted my previous position.
The time you made previous topic, you did not ask me when you were going to make that topic. You suddenly made that topic.
This rule was not about what happened in the past. But I don't really care, I'll just delete it. Note that I defend my own position, and when I change my own position I will leave the debate :yum:
I do not agree with your one more rule-
if there are errors or mistakes (or insults), we agree to apologize and correct ourselves
Rules are rules. They cannot be called rules, if someone violates it.
People make mistakes, missunderstand things, get emotional. It happens. I can delete this rule if you want, because it kind of goes without saying, that when you make a mistake or hurt somebody you apologize. I could also leave it there, for this is what it says...
As far as I know, you were not agree with my rules. Ergo, I will debate on previous topic with you.
Why shouldn't we try to reach an agreement?
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@Original-Satan said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
Thanks for explaining it. I disagree with you. I can/will not follow this rule. Every reason must be answered properly. You dont answer my reasons and you always go ahead. Words limit can be 500 words approximately with your own answer. Quoted words are not included in those 500 words.
Oh, I think I got what you meant by your original rule: you want me to answer to everything you said in your argument.
Well, I will try to do my best. But sometimes this is impossible. For example debating all the contradictions in the bible merits – as I said – its own topic, if not writing a whole book. So lets say your argument is
There are contradictions in the bible if taken literally
and then you list a set of 40 contradictions.
I will answer with how the bible should be read. I will not answer to every contradiction, because if you read it the way I will explain, the contradictions disappear.
You of course will then disagree with how the bible should be read, and tell me I must answer your every contradiction.
I however do disagree with your way of reading the bible, and thus I will not answer your every contradiction, for I do not think the bible should be read this way.
This is a conceptual disagreement. You do not have to adapt my view. But you cannot expect me to adapt your view either.
Also listing 40 contradictions requires much less words than resolving them. I'd have to write way more than you wrote. I'd have to write a whole book. Then you would disagree with what I'd have written, and tell me I have not answered to all your reasons.
I will not write a whole book. I will tell you, that this is not a single argument. In the end all of this comes together in the question what constitutes a single argument.
So, I will try to answer everything you write in your argument. If I cannot do that, I will tell you why. I'll add this rule in the following way:
Everything in an argument must be answered if reasonably possible, or it must be explained why it cannot be answered. Not answering everything in an argument does not automatically cause the debate to be lost or won. If something cannot be answered, then the whole of the other arguments (plus the fact that this was left unanswered) will decide the debate.
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I comment, "Comment is a comment". So that's my comment.
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So let's start this finally :joy:
I'll use @spaceboy's analogy, to begin this debate:
There is a huge column of smoke (Christianity, the greatest column of smoke in human history :yum:). Thus it is perfectly reasonable to assume that there was a fire (Jesus). Ergo it is reasonable to assume that Jesus did in fact live a human life, unless you can provide a great enough amount of evidence, that shows clearly, that he did not.
With this in mind, please note that to say "Jesus' human existence is impropable" is an assertive claim, and requires convincing evidence. It is not enough to show that some of the evidence for his human existence can be doubted.
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@SunshineF said in Vex debate: was Jesus historical II?:
I comment, "Comment is a comment". So that's my comment.
I'll comment on that.
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@Vex-Man so we pre-debated this in PMs... and now you left apruptly, unjustified IMHO...
Since you are so sure to have won the debate, how about we have this out publically, and let users vote on who won? Because now that I know your arguments I'm pretty sure that I have the better ones. But since we cannot decide on that ourselves how about we let others decide?
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Users may enhance their own and others' experiences on Talk With Stranger by adhering to these rules and helping to create a vibrant and encouraging community.
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Talk With Stranger's "Recent" tab is a hive of activity where people publish updates, participate in free chat rooms, and exchange content with one another. People come together to engage in real-time interaction in this melting pot of concepts, feelings, and relationships. The page's lively interaction demonstrates the platform's function as a global discussion center, making it a fun location to make new friends and get in touch with existing ones.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS)
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Answer: Users may share their most recent updates, re-connect with others, and have discussions in free chat rooms and sporadic chat sessions on the "Recent" part of the website.
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Q5: What kinds of subjects are covered on TWS?
Answer: A broad variety of subjects are discussed by users, such as dating, movies, technology, life guidance, and more.
Conclusion
The "Recent" tab on the Talk With Stranger platform embodies the spirit of contemporary internet conversation. TWS creates an atmosphere where community members feel linked even when they are geographically separated by providing a place where users may participate in random conversations, have free chat sessions, and post updates. The platform provides a dynamic and varied area to satisfy your social requirements, whether you're looking for a brief chat or a deeper conversation.
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helloooooooo?
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😂😂😂 It's like saying we play basketball and I am the referee hahaha stfu plz you made me laugh seriously .
You should learn how to debate with the people, TM. A constructive debate always has rules. It is not your public chat where you can abuse or assert to write essays to shut my mouth up. You should not participate in a debate if you disagree with the rules on the first place. A debate is not a sport nor it is played, make common sense.
I replied on each and every false thing you said with links and evidence from the Quraan and sunna ..
What if I considered The Koran as legitimate source ? I will show why it does not change the argument. But ofc this will be mine last reply to you as you disqualified to yourself and I do not have time to answer what you write further. You always write what you want to and interpret any verse without citing a single weblink.
now you don't wanna accept it
Now or always ? It is written in the topic initially. Apparently, you did not bother to read the rules
Treatment to disbelievers -
"˹Remember, O Prophet,˺ when your Lord revealed to the angels, “I am with you. So make the believers stand firm. I will cast horror into the hearts of the disbelievers. So strike their necks and strike their fingertips.”
"This is because they defied Allah and His Messenger. And whoever defies Allah and His Messenger, then ˹know that˺ Allah is surely severe in punishment."(8:12-13)Source - https://quran.com/8?startingVerse=12 (this is how someone writes if they have to post a source; they do not just write (8:12-13)). This is what a weblink is.
"So when you meet the disbelievers ˹in battle˺, strike ˹their˺ necks until you have thoroughly subdued them, then bind them firmly. Later ˹free them either as˺ an act of grace or by ransom until the war comes to an end. So will it be. Had Allah willed, He ˹Himself˺ could have inflicted punishment on them. But He does ˹this only to˺ test some of you by means of others. And those who are martyred in the cause of Allah,1 He will never render their deeds void."
Source - https://quran.com/47?startingVerse=4
Public lashing of fornicators -
"As for female and male fornicators, give each of them one hundred lashes,1 and do not let pity for them make you lenient in ˹enforcing˺ the law of Allah, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a number of believers witness their punishment." (24:2)
Source - https://quran.com/24/2
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That verse is already mentioned in the wikipedia link I posted first. You failed to counter-argue after making 14 record posts. You did not even care to quote it. You brought your own assertions and then you tell me what I wrote is false.
Also, the contradictory verses were written in the same webpage. You failed to even quote them as well.
evidence from the Quraan
You cannot even spell Koran/Quran correctly and you read it five times. Huh ?
A forum like this https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/extraterrestrial-intelligence is enough for you to think aliens exist.
You failed to counter-argue over the conclusion of NCBI research -
Conclusion: Saudi girls attain menarcheal age earlier than their mothers, reflecting a downward secular trend in menarcheal age.
So, Mother's puberty age > Daughter's puberty age. In Ayesha's time, it was around 15.74. Do the math with Cuzick test for trend (0.049).
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@Zack-Williamson I replied on each and every false thing you said with links and evidence from the Quraan and sunna now you don't wanna accept it ... it's up to you but for me it's more than enough whether you like to read it or not . Thank you 👋
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@Zack-Williamson 😂😂😂 It's like saying we play basketball and I am the referee hahaha stfu plz you made me laugh seriously .
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@ODIN said in Can Islam really teach ethics to anyone ? Think again.:
I understand your point, perhaps you have learned alot from different legit sources about islam and koran itself.
The reference links of the page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Quran#Notes
Ibn Ishaq is different legit source ? Every islamic work depends on him. In fact, he was the first guy who wrote biography on Muhammad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
And you came to conclude about how intolerant the quran and islam is toward women and other religions. Thats a good step toward knowing the truth about islamic religion.
The proof is always backed up by evidence. It is very simple to say I have thousand ants in my cupboard. If I tell this to everyone, almost 100% people will ask for the evidence. They are not going to believe me. When people opened my cupboard and recorded the video and showed it to me, I tell them you get to know cupboard does not have any ant. Different sources describe it has ants.
If you wont mind perhaps i would share how i understand islam, koran and different sources describing about this religion
I do mind this. When I mind this, I don't want you to teach me.
Talking about Quran and intolerence toward woman and other religions, in my point of view, i find Koran is actually shows us how blessed woman is in many ways.
The Quran, the holy book of Islam, indicates that both men and women are spiritually equal. The Quran states: "Those who do good, whether male or female, and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged; even as much as the speck on a date stone."BTW I said all people to argue with evidence otherwise you will be disqualified. Read the rule 2. I am not gonna answer any of your reply.
And fight in Allah’s way those who fight you, but do not commit aggression—Allah does not love the aggressors...Surah al-Baqarah
And kill them wherever you overtake them, and expel them from where they have expelled you. Oppression is more severe than murder. But do not fight them at the Sacred Sanctuary, unless they fight you there. If they fight you, then kill them—such is the payback for the unbelievers.
MUSLIMS SHALL ONLY FIGHT WHEB OPRESSED AND PUSHED BY VIOLENCE FRON THIER HOMELAND FOR OPRESSION IS MORE SEVERE THAN MURDER AS ALLAH SAID.Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. MUSLIMS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTACK THOSE WHO DO NOT ATTACK THEM BUT ONLY TO FIGHT BACK OR PREPARE FOR A FIGHT IN A WAR OR GHAZWA WHICH MEANS INVADING THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO INVADE US OR WILLONG TO PUSH US OUT OF OUR HOME AND FIGHT US IN OUR RELIGION .
You too violated rule 2 multiple times. As I have already said, don't assert without evidence. I am not gonna answer this. Proof by assertion is a fallacy in logic. Your other arguments contain a forum link which is not an encylopedia nor a individual research website so I dismiss your all arguments. I do not want to read them. I just did read blue letters aka links.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion#:~:text=Proof by assertion%2C sometimes informally,regardless of contradiction and refutation.
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(You cannot cite an unauthentic website especially which lacks any reference. Encylopedias and research websites bring more weightage of evidence to other websites. Do not assert w/o evidence.) Islamic sources has islamic content isn't that a simple common sense thing for you to understand ? Lol Wiki and Encyclo are more general content that provide answers to those who wanna read the titles before going in depth analysis and main sources . THANK U .
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(You cannot abuse anyone. People who abuse, lack rational arguments. You cannot argue like this) replying to this : THAT WAS NOT AN ARGUMENT BUY A JOKE LOL YOU CUT OFF ALL THE PREVIOUS ARGUMENT ON WHICH YOU SURRENDERED AND AGREED TO AISHA HIT THE PUBERTY AND WAS CAPABLE OF MARRIAGE ! BUT YOU SIMPLY NEEEEED TO BRING ANYTHING YOU CAN TO SHOW THAT U ARE ARGUING WHILE I HAD NO LOGICAL REPLY TO FEEL LIKE A WINNER . THAT'S WHAT LOSERS USUALLY DO. NEXT TIME BRING LESS SHIT FOR ME TO WHIPE OFF AND MORE RATIONAL POINTS TO ARGUE ABOUT .
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The median age of puberty is declining in Saudi Arabia, so it means the median age of Saudi Arabian's girls' for puberty was higher than now. It was 11 to 14 between 2006 to 2012. Replying to this : THE ANSWER OF THIS CLAIM IS IN UR LINK ... U JUST REFUSE TO READ OR YOU ARE BLIND TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE COMPONENTS OF UR OWN LINK !!!
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Who can teach us ethics ? The one who himself married, 6 years old Saudi Arabian girl Aishah and slept with her when she was 9 years old ? Or the one who had 13 wives ? : 3) And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hands possess [i.e., slaves]. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]. And give the women [upon marriage] their [bridal] gifts[161] graciously. But if they give up willingly to you anything of it, then take it in satisfaction and ease.[162] And do not give the weak-minded your property,[163] which Allāh has made a means of sustenance for you, but provide for them with it and clothe them and speak to them words of appropriate kindness.(6) And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgement, release their property to them. And do not consume it excessively and quickly, [anticipating] that they will grow up. And whoever, [when acting as guardian], is self-sufficient should refrain [from taking a fee]; and whoever is poor - let him take according to what is acceptable. Then when you release their property to them, bring witnesses upon them. And sufficient is Allāh as Accountant.
AS YOU CAN SEE ALLAH HAS FORBIDDEN MARRIAGE BEFORE THE PROPER MARRIAGEABLE AGE ( PUBERTY) SO THE PROPHET DID NOT HAD SEX WITH HER BEFORE SHE HIT PUBERTY OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE SEEN ANY SIDE EFFECTS TO SUCH ( RAPE OR SHAMEFUL ACT ) AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK .
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(Who can teach us ethics ? The one who himself married, 6 years old Saudi Arabian girl Aishah and slept with her when she was 9 years old ? Or the one who had 13 wives ?) Replying to this :https://islambasics.com/chapter/preislam-polygamy/
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(I do not think I have to prove that they are not the words of God because it contains a lot of contradictions, absurdities, inconsistencies, errors already. God would not commit such mistakes like humans since he is supposed to be an intelligent being.) ALLAH indeed is the almighty superior creator and this claim of yours has a perfect reply in the quraan : (46) So have they not traveled through the earth and have hearts by which to reason and ears by which to hear? For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts. Indeed a blinded heart is the cause of all sickness that's why the minds can't see the deep connection between the verses for they are blinded by their sick desires and weak soul that is eager to live here forever and thinks their will be no return to Allah after death : Then did you think that We created you uselessly and that to Us you would not be returned?" ...
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(People who think Quran is the word of God, also think that humans cannot decide what ethics are and only their holy book can decide them) Replying to this : And it is He who produced you from a single being, then a repository, then a depository. We have detailed the revelations for people who UNDERSTAND. Unfortunately the english dictionary cannot 100% reflect the meanings of words such as " تتفكرون ، تعقلون ، تفقهون ، تتقون ، تنظرون " All those words encourages the human being to Think , contemplate , understand , comprehend , see ( mindfully ) rationalize etc... all such words are mentioned in Quraan as Allah mentioned in soura Al-Baqara (53): And [recall] when We gave Moses the Scripture and criterion that perhaps you would be guided. As you can read the word GUIDED is the main reason for why the revelations were revealed to the prophets . The Quraan and Bible and Taorat and Zabor and Abraham's scriptures all are for guidence for us humans، to rise spiritually, psychologically and mentally and build a chain of ethics and social laws to be helped and saved . This is the path of Allah that we should follow with obedience or otherwise Satan will take over our will and heart and lead us to perish then go with him to hell .
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( In the Koran and Islam, you can see the umpteen amount of intolerance towards women and other religions.) Replying to this : Surah al-Baqarah
190. And fight in Allah’s way those who fight you, but do not commit aggression—Allah does not love the aggressors...Surah al-Baqarah
191. And kill them wherever you overtake them, and expel them from where they have expelled you. Oppression is more severe than murder. But do not fight them at the Sacred Sanctuary, unless they fight you there. If they fight you, then kill them—such is the payback for the unbelievers.
MUSLIMS SHALL ONLY FIGHT WHEB OPRESSED AND PUSHED BY VIOLENCE FRON THIER HOMELAND FOR OPRESSION IS MORE SEVERE THAN MURDER AS ALLAH SAID.
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(In the Koran and Islam, you can see the umpteen amount of intolerance towards women and other religions) replying to this : Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. MUSLIMS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTACK THOSE WHO DO NOT ATTACK THEM BUT ONLY TO FIGHT BACK OR PREPARE FOR A FIGHT IN A WAR OR GHAZWA WHICH MEANS INVADING THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO INVADE US OR WILLONG TO PUSH US OUT OF OUR HOME AND FIGHT US IN OUR RELIGION .
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(In the Koran and Islam, you can see the umpteen amount of intolerance towards women and other religions.)... Replying to this : Al noor 2 .The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment. EQUALITY IN PUNISHMENT FOR COMMITING ADULTERY .
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(In the Koran and Islam, you can see the umpteen amount of intolerance towards women and other religions)... Replying to this : Al-Ahzāb: (35) Indeed, the Muslim men and Muslim women, the believing men and believing women, the obedient men and obedient women, the truthful men and truthful women, the patient men and patient women, the humble men and humble women, the charitable men and charitable women, the fasting men and fasting women, the men who guard their private parts and the women who do so, and the men who remember Allāh often and the women who do so - for them Allāh has prepared forgiveness and a great reward. NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN AS ALLAH MENTION THEM BOTH EQUALLY .
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In the Koran and Islam, you can see the umpteen amount of intolerance towards women and other religions
Replying to this : "O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste." Prophet mohammad words before he died in the farewell seremon . https://atida.org/forums/node/2587
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It is very cowardly to cut my words and offer only the words that I was laughing at lol I'm coming to reply .
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Talking about Quran and intolerence toward woman and other religions, in my point of view, i find Koran is actually shows us how blessed woman is in many ways.
The Quran, the holy book of Islam, indicates that both men and women are spiritually equal. The Quran states: "Those who do good, whether male or female, and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged; even as much as the speck on a date stone."
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Iron Within Meteorites
According to M.E. Walrath, iron is not an element that was naturally present on Earth. Studies suggest that a billion years ago, a meteorite struck Earth. This meteorite had iron on it, and when it exploded after coming in contact with our planet, Earth got iron. This scientific fact in Quran is stated in passage 57:25 as “we sent down iron with its great inherent strength and its many benefits for humankind”.
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Embryology
Embryology is a branch of biology concerned with the study of fertilization and embryo development. The central religious text, at one point, talks about embryology and states a significant scientific fact in Quran. It says, “We created man from an extract of clay. Then we made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then we made the drop into an Alaqah (blood clot), then we made the Alaqah into a Mudghah…” (Quran 23:12-14)Here the word ‘Alaqah’ can be defined as a leech, blood clot, or something suspended in the air. According to science, a foetus gets nutrients and oxygen from the mother. In this sense, it is not unlike a leech that sucks blood. Also, in the early stages, the foetus stays stationary and the blood does not flow, which renders it similar to a blood clot. Lastly, in the womb, the baby hangs from the uterus wall by the placenta and lies suspended.
Engaging Popular Topics and Daily Topics in Online Chatrooms
Online chatrooms have given rise to an animated platform, the beauty of which is that people can freely express their views on an infinite number of topics. This makes the chatrooms more appealing than ever. There are many aspects of the popular topics in the chat where people come to share their thoughts, ask questions, or even just talk, whether it is about daily life, fun, issues relating to people, or even news. No matter how quickly the world changes, and how fast paced the world of the internet becomes. These chatrooms make it possible for that ever-new wave of active discussions to take place, ensuring that there are new daily topics on which people will talk. Free chat with other strangers and make new friends online on Talk With Stranger by talking to strangers.
Specifically, in this article, we will look at the most common popular topics and the typical daily topics that sustain chatrooms and their relevance to users worldwide. This guide is designed to walk you through the focus areas that attract the greatest interest and where exactly in today’s reality, they have chatrooms turned into a melting pot of relations based on the commonality of interests. Chat online today on TWS (TalkWithStranger) free chat sites.
The Appeal of Popular Topics Available in Chatrooms
Interesting features include the extensive range of interesting topics available, which appeal to many people, in the chat rooms. Users on such platforms log in to participate in various topics. It includes news, entertainment, and personal life issues where one seeks advice. The interesting thing about these services is that they are very flexible. One can look for a particular chat room for a particular interest or just join general conversations on everydayevery day topics that are suitable to most members.
What Brings People’s Attention to Popular Topics?
Many factors make certain topics interesting in chat rooms:
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Users’ temptations: There is a tendency among users to love taking part in topics that appeal to them the most. This could go like my favorite sport, my best friend, my way of life, etc.
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Topics that grab people’s attention: Such topics would be politics, maternal care, and discussions of trends that are of the moment, the amount of response generated is always impressive.
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Communication: It is often the case that many people from different walks of life have something in common in terms of subjects of interest. Chat rooms provide the perfect medium for enhancing the attainment of the objective given the chances of being supportive.
Popular Topics: Chat Room Examples
Some topics tend to be focused on in chat rooms every time. The topics include:
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Entertainment: Most of the time, some topics revolve around movies, television shows, music, or video games. It could be an advertisement for the most recent movie or a review of the music tabs. One thing that is guaranteed is that entertainment is always booming.
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Personal Relationships: Most of the time chat rooms are used to air relationship challenges, seek assistance, or even share very amusing dating experiences.
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Health and Wellness: Most people seek participation in chat rooms from textbooks or fitness programs for sporting or health advice. Members will often share information concerning the different aspects of healthy living.
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Hobbies and Interests: Chat rooms are great for passionate individuals to unite and talk about photography, trips, or gaming.
The Dynamic Nature of Daily Topics
While popular topics help users join conversations, it is the daily topics that engage users in chat rooms that are activerooms active and interesting all the time. These conversations tend to be more relaxed and light-hearted. They enable users to log in every day and have something to say without feeling overwhelmed by the need to give a detailed response. These daily topics are also particularly useful in helping people form social bonds over ordinary daily enterprises.
How Daily Topics Maintain Interest in Chatrooms
Daily topics are introduced in every chat room to enhance user interaction in each room. These topics revolve around something going on in the current and global environment. Users can share how their day is going, offeringgoing offering their thoughts about any holiday or other memorable day. This strategy I believe aids in making the members active and hence making them wish to come back to the room more often.
Common Types of Daily Topics on Free Chat sites
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Daily Check-Ins: It’s common in most chat rooms to find a thread titled “How’s your day” where individuals post what has been happening to them.
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Current Events: A hot talk is a topic that arises from breaking news the most popular politics of the day or a hot global issue.
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Personal Milestones: Users like to express their achievements, presenting such events as a successful promotion, a new relationship, or losing extra weight.
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Lighthearted Fun: Coveted daily trivia and other everyday topics encourage users to take their time and look for lighthearted and funny themes.
The Change in Trends in Chats and Subjects in Chatrooms
With the advancement in technology, so do the topics in the chat room. Most people talk about the same things over the internet, like entertainment, relationships, health and so other aspects that are popular with the majority. The chat rooms of today are such that members are as likely to engage in understanding tech advancements and sharing thoughts on cryptocurrency and responsible living as much as they do about fetishes and lifestyle fads.
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Trending Popular Topics in Modern Chatrooms
There has been the development of popular topics in chat rooms, especially with the emergence of social media and the quick spread of information. Some of these niches that are becoming increasingly popular in chat rooms include:
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Tech and Gadgets: Since the technology era is ever getting advanced, some users just can never stay in a room without chatting about the most recent devices and applications thatapplications, that are revolutionizing the world today.
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Sustainability: Now more than ever, many people are conscious of environmental concerns and chat rooms are also more about modern living, climate, and sustainability as well.
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Cryptocurrency and Blockchain: Many are still catching up with the crypto world and as the market for cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Ethereum continues to grow. Many chat rooms center around the same helping users provide areas where they can talk about the latest in crypto, and even help investors time the market.
Integrating New Trends
It is one of the outstanding virtues of the chatrooms to incorporate new trends that come up. As new interests develop, chatrooms tend to adopt these changes by adding fresh popular topics that occupy users and keep the subject of the platforms. These trends in popular culture allow abandoning the claim that chat rooms in the modern world no longer have any reason to exist.
Inclusion of Popular Topics and Daily Topics in Building Community
Every active chatroom seems to be vigorous mostly due to the sense of community residing in it. Users do not simply engage in conversations; they relate with persons who have common interests with them. Popular topics become the points where users can strive to begin making conversations while daily topics aim to make the chat rooms more engaging and colorful.
Importance Of Popular Topics In Relating Users
Beginning from the fact that users in a chat room engage in certain popular topics quite frequently, certain bonds start forming. This can either be as a result of a common favorite show or advice given on personal stuff, these talks create an aspect of closeness and attachment among the members.
How Moderators Influence the Nature of Popular Topics
Moderators help scrutinize and enhance what is being talked about in the chat rooms. They keep the closure with users by topping and pinning some hot topics to avoid unnecessary diversion from the subject of discussion.
The Influence of Trending Topics on the Traffic of Chat Rooms
The variation of popular topics is one of the features that is responsible for the constant return by users to the chat rooms. Some topics, once they become popular, are known to draw an even bigger audience and hence create a lot of movement into the platform. This is particularly true of chatrooms which are mostly focused on current discussions concerning trends that are fascinating enough to pitch a large number of people to walk in and join in the talk that is actively going on.
User-Generated Content and Its Effects on the Popular Daily Topics
The nature of all the user-generated content is also one of the things that appeals more to popular topics. The main weakness which traditional media hosts is that it is very rare and poorly structured by active participants which are the members and audiences of free chat rooms. This therefore explains why popular topics are referred to as fluid and flexible to the will and wishes of people.
Some of the most common user-generated popular topics that have been known to attract traffic include:
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Live Event Discussions: Large events containing competitions like sports, award ceremonies, and others, are all great topics because they usually attract large numbers of users to chat rooms to discuss these events as they are happening.
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Viral Challenges and Trends: It could be an internet challenge, a viral meme, videos, or animations; chatrooms are channels that enable users to engage and talk about such trends.
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Advice Columns: It is no news that threads and discussions seeking to offer or request advice on matters of relationships, career choices, and even health are some of the most actively participated areas in chatrooms from their popular circles.
How Chatrooms Evolve Around Daily Topics
As time goes by, chatrooms change in their structure and contents. This is because the trends and preferences of the users also change over time. Daily topics are essential as they keep chatrooms functional as a channel of instant communication. These days, most of the chatrooms are adding up new technologies and features to meet the increasing expectation of instant communication.
The Rise of Real-Time Interactions
With social media being the key to communication, chatrooms also adopted a real-time interaction facility that allows users to participate in a conversation that has already commenced. Daily topics such as current affairs, news, or what is trending at that time can be used for such calls for discussions. This is the essence of immediacy and it is arguably why people would want to participate and interact with other people.
Mobile Chatrooms and Their Social Aspects
Mobile devices dominate the internet today and chatrooms have adapted their systems to this trend. The change has had a notable effect on the way people consume the questions of the day and interact with them. It is now possible for users to get into chatrooms from any location which ensures that conversations about questions of the day remain ongoing and current in real time.
Some of the factors that have contributed to the emergence of mobile chatrooms include:
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Push Notifications: Additionally, notifications will notify users about a daily topic of interest that has been posted and will enhance user engagement.
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Instant Messaging Features: For instance due to social mobile app chatrooms incorporating messaging features instant messaging features make convenient discussions around daily topics easier.
Popular Topics and Niche Communities
While most chatrooms deal with broad-based popular topics that capture thousands and thousands of users’ interest, the same cannot be said of niche communities which constitute an integral part of the chatroom ecosystem. Usually, people cluster in small groups with specific topics or interests that are more specific than just the broad original topic. It could be a fan club dedicated to this or that serial or the IT trends. These focus communities allow their users to address such a trend in more detail rather than attract a wider audience.
Why Niche Popular Topics Are So Trending Today
Niche popular topics are on the rise owing to how different chatrooms can cater to the individual user’s needs. As users are looking for more focused content, such specific forums enable discussions that are not just skin-deep. This approach effectively sustains user interest by allowing them to interact with those who share their interests and have different spheres of passion.
Some other examples of niche popular topics are:
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Science and Fantasy Fiction: Chatrooms that are dedicated to everything from the latest picture books and motion pictures to fan artfanart creation.
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DIY And Crafting: These boards help people exchange tips, tutorials, and projects and form a constructive activity-oriented community.
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Fitness And Wellness: In recent years niche forums focused on fitness training, meal plans, and mental health discussions have become quite popular as well.
The Future of Popular Topics and Daily Topics
Popular topics as well as daily topics will always be at the center of interaction by the users. The competition for live and engaging content has been fuelled as many more lounges introduce real-time elements. This transformation brought to light the relevance of chatrooms in bridging the gap between physically distant people while engaging and maintaining the chat as to the current needs of internet users.
An Overview of How AI and Automation Boost Popular Topics
With the growth of AI technology, it has become common to see chatrooms coming up with more automated features to contain conversations that revolve around trending topics. For instance, with the use of AI, most chatrooms can now predict the topics that will be relevant at a certain time and recommend which threads to place or which subjects to discuss. Not only does this improve the experience of the users, but also it keeps the discussions being talked about new and more active than at any other time in history.
Some AI-driven strategies that help maintain popular topics include:
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Intelligent Topic Recommendations: When users feel at ease sharing topics with others, they call upon popularity prediction strategies, which are employed by AI algorithms seeking user trends and behavior toward potential arguments within the community.
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Moderation: As more users join the chatrooms, particularly due to topics of the day or interest, there is a need to create and maintain a positive ambiance in the chatroom. Chat moderation tools based on AI will keep out inappropriate content during the day to ensure that topics remain respectful.
Gamification and User Rewards for Engaging in Daily Topics
Chatrooms are looking for ways to attract users’ attention towards the daily topics, thus, trying to include gamification features in topics. These features include but are not limited to, awarding users with points, badges, and leaderboards to individuals who contribute some reasonable discussions daily to increase and retain users. This makes chatting fun and encourages participation in all activities of the chat community.
Key gamification elements observed in contemporary chatrooms include:
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Star Contribution Leaderboards: Top contributors of the day for these topics are displayed.
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Badges: Users are rewarded with virtual badges for inverting or contributing in to hot debatable subjects.
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Exclusive Education: The best users are allowed to participate in special sections of the website’s top level based on their activity.
Predicting the Next Upsurge of Popular Topics
Both the chatroom administrators as well as the users constantly seek future prevailing subjects. If it is a burning social issue, new technology, or entertainment, being able to do so is precisely what may bolster the attractiveness of chatrooms to their users. Persistent growth in the volume and activity of these audiences will be experienced by those resources that promptly create therapeutic forums for trending topics.
Most Popular Chatroom Topics That Will Certainly Emerge In the Future:
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Sustainable Living and Eco-Friendly Practices: With the increasing global awareness of climate change, there will be a shift in the direction that chat room discussions will focus on sustainable living. They will focus mainly on sharing ideas, and materials, and talking about ways of living sustainably.
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Blockchain and Cryptocurrency: The technology of blockchain and the whole trend of cryptocurrency is still likely to be an ever-enticing subject among fellow forum members.
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Mental Health and Well-Being: As the world continues to focus on mental health issues, there will be more and more discussion forums on the sources of the problems self-care, and support which will be a very popular subject
Conclusion
The reason many chat rooms are still being used is because there are always interesting issues and current topics. It is through these conversations that users can interact with each other and share their experiences and people even establish relationships. Busy discussing current trends in newscasts, participating in comparative analysis of the newest dramas, or just posting their most important events, chat rooms have finally emerged as a hub for almost everyone who goes online. Talk to strangers in free chat rooms online without registration and meet new people and make new friends in anonymous text chat rooms as well as voice chat with random people and video chatrooms online. Talk With Stranger gives you access to thousands of free chat sites and free chat apps where you can talk to strangers and chat with strangers online without making any account. You can also make audio calls to strangers and phone call strangers online and chat free with random people.
A popular topic serves as a lure for a majority of newcomers, while a daily topic prevents the conversation from going stale. They constitute the keystones of a new order where the peripheral theoretical boundary actively exists as users all over the world converge, interact, and seek connection.
The landscape of chat rooms is very broad, rapidly changing, and accurately represents the current level of interest of the users. No matter whether you want to participate in discussions about popular matters around the world or express your opinion concerning other topics of the current day, a random chatroom like TalkWithStranger represents a great opportunity to stay in touch with diverse people.