Do you believe in souls?
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Do you think humans have souls? Do you think animals have souls?
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Under the hood, next to the engine, by that battery, just below the alternator.
No, wait... That's the spleen. My mistake.
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Nobody knows what consciousness is and how it works. It is most certainly connected to the brain (since you can make people unconscious through some drug obviously) but that does not mean that this is all to it.
The philosopher Thomas Nagel thematisized this in "What is it like to be a bat?". If it is like anything to be a bat, then a bat is conscious. If it is not like anything to be a bat, if the bat just acts and reacts (including to sensations/feelings), then it is not conscious.
We cannot know if animals really are conscious. Heck we cannot even know with absolute certainty that the person in front of us is conscious.
So is it possible that consciousness might actually be something only we humans have? It is definitely a possibility.
It is also possible that the brain actually is not capable of producing what we perceive as "I" (which some call an illusion anyways), or what we call consciousness: the space in which everything happens that we perceive, all our emotions, sensations, thoughts, and yes, our actions too... It is possible that being conscious requires having a soul...
To be honest, I've experienced too many – let's call them: – impropable things in my life to still believe in a purely material world. But like any good scientist, I assume I could be wrong.
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All life has a soul and it is also one big happy family. The human race are cry-babies though.
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@OliveOlivia said in Do you believe in souls?:
@petrapark3r How can we not know if animals are really conscious if they are able to learn, feel, and be aware of their surroundings like we do?
Your definition of consciousness I would say already applies to my dog, and I'm sure many other pets and animals out there too?No, no, it could be the same way, that boston dynamics robots learn, "feel" and are aware of their sorroundings. My definition of consciousness is not, that something acts like a conscious agent (which boston dynamic robots tend to do with simple tasks like carrying boxes from one place to another, and being kicked in the but by mean engineers), but to actually have this... I cannot describe what consciousness is. You know what it is, and so do I, because and only because we are conscious.
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I think yr worried unnecessarily about what consciousness is, Petra. Consciousness is like when you pour some sherbert in a can of cola and then shake it up and drink it down, only the sherbert is the dendrites in yr neural pathways, and the cola is the axons in yr pre-frontal receptors.
I dunno whether there's such a thing as a soul or not. All I'd say is, one of the only times I remember blubbing at the TV is that episode of the Simpsons where Bart sells his soul, and then in the end gets it back. Weird, huh?
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@Indrid-Cold said in Do you believe in souls?:
I think yr worried unnecessarily about what consciousness is, Petra. Consciousness is like when you pour some sherbert in a can of cola and then shake it up and drink it down, only the sherbert is the dendrites in yr neural pathways, and the cola is the axons in yr pre-frontal receptors.
I find the topic fascinating. Even more fascinating I find the people who are – without any substantiated argument – fully convinced that consciousness is but a function of matter...
I dunno whether there's such a thing as a soul or not. All I'd say is, one of the only times I remember blubbing at the TV is that episode of the Simpsons where Bart sells his soul, and then in the end gets it back. Weird, huh?
What's "blubbing"?
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@petrapark3r BLUBBING. You know blubbing, mate - lip wobbles, eyes fill up.
And as for those people poking them robos, I think they've got the right idea. You wanna get proactive with treating them as non-human, otherwise you'll start ANTHROPOMORPHISING them, and then you'll go mad with guilt when you accidentally run them over with a beach buggy ala Bruce Dern in Silent Running.
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@OliveOlivia said in Do you believe in souls?:
Do you think humans have souls? Do you think animals have souls?
Why or why not?Basically I'm a soul.
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@OliveOlivia Google defines the soul as the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal. I don't think anything in me is immortal that is gonna stay forever. And I have no idea in what state it will stay after my body (that is made of matter) will decay. There is not a single shred of evidence something like that exists so I am gonna say there is no soul.
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@ChaosKing said in Do you believe in souls?:
@OliveOlivia Google defines the soul as the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal. I don't think anything in me is immortal that is gonna stay forever. And I have no idea in what state it will stay after my body (that is made of matter) will decay. There is not a single shred of evidence something like that exists so I am gonna say there is no soul.
Let me recount some evidence then.
- First of all predictions. Many people frequently experience knowing things in advance in their life. Scientifically this should not be possible since Entropy needs to increase for time to flow forward. If information can be sent through time backwards, then Entropy would increase in the opposite direction. So this seems like a non-physical phenomenon.
- Non-physical communication. Like when people know that something bad happened to a loved one. It actually happens quite frequently... Statistically you should know at least 3 people who have made that experience.
- Near Death Experiences. They usually follow the same pattern: Some kind of judgement (sometimes it's a movie of your life, where you recognize what was good and bad, sometimes it's an actual judgement, some people see jesus), meeting loved ones who died, some see angels, others see demons, others see even stranger things...
- The origin of the universe. There are two options: 1. the universe (or multiverse) is eternal. 2. God is eternal and created the universe. If option 1 is true, then we'd have one problem: the universe would be irrational, because of the endless causal chain. If you want to I can elaborate.
Of course none of this is proof. But it is evidence...
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@Indrid-Cold said in Do you believe in souls?:
@petrapark3r BLUBBING. You know blubbing, mate - lip wobbles, eyes fill up.
And as for those people poking them robos, I think they've got the right idea. You wanna get proactive with treating them as non-human, otherwise you'll start ANTHROPOMORPHISING them, and then you'll go mad with guilt when you accidentally run them over with a beach buggy ala Bruce Dern in Silent Running.
:joy: let's give em hell mate
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@OliveOlivia said in Do you believe in souls?:
@AuroraFan said in Do you believe in souls?:
The human race are cry-babies though.
We are born cry babies and we stay cry babies 😂
People don't grow up. We only pretend to because it's expected of us.
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What do you think soul is?
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You are probably aware of all the different theories people have had of it over times?
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@petrapark3r first of all sorry for the late reply, haven't been here much.
- Many people frequently experience knowing things in advance in their life, I don't know what you are talking about but I have not known a single person who can see the future. Using complex words like entropy and stuff doesn't make it the right argument. "Entropy is the measure of a system’s thermal energy per unit temperature that is unavailable for doing useful work." In simple words, entropy is a measure of disorder in the sense that all systems tend to, on their own, become less ordered. I don't know how it is related to your argument.
- Well that's coz people almost think every day that something bad happened to their loved once, take an example of a soldier, soldiers do work in a dangerous situation, and their family members know that so these bad thoughts keep coming in their mind and if something bad happens it doesn't mean that something supernatural communicated to them to tell that something bad happened with their loved one.
- There is lots of evidence, lots and lots, to support that the human brain creates illusions and hallucination when it is under stress. Anyway if you are a Hindu you will see Lord Krishna, if you're a Christian you will see Jesus or Yahweh (mostly Jesus) if you're a Muslim you will see Muhammad or Allah, can't you see how every near-death experience depends on your religion. I also had some hallucinations a while ago and I can't blame them, it feels so real.
- First of all multiverse theory is still a hypothesis it's not yet a scientific theory, and I am pretty sure it doesn't say the universe is eternal it states that there may be multiple or even an infinite number of universes. Please get your facts correct. There are not "ONLY TWO OPTIONS". Please learn to say we don't know, coz we don't know the origin of the universe yet, that's the only place God is hiding rn. Please tell me who created the GOD? You are answering a simple question with another question if God created the universe who created god? The universe will be irrational, what does that even mean?
Not a single word you said is evidence it is BS....
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@Hyde said in Do you believe in souls?:
I believe in souls since i had a story with one
would love to know the story.
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@AuroraFan said in Do you believe in souls?:
The human race are cry-babies though.
We are born cry babies and we stay cry babies 😂
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@petrapark3r How can we not know if animals are really conscious if they are able to learn, feel, and be aware of their surroundings like we do?
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@OliveOlivia Now that's an interesting note and it shows how our minds control our actions from the very start of life.
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@OliveOlivia said in Do you believe in souls?:
@petrapark3r From what you are saying I'm not really sure what consciousness is. I've always been told that it simply being aware of ones self and its surroundings. If that is all it is than I would definitely say that animals have this, Monkeys for instance, I wouldn't say theyre any less conscious than us, dolphins, ocras, etc.
I think just because animals don't act and 'aren't as smart' as us, people don't realize they are greater than they appear. They are smart, they know what theyre doing, they do not just act and react. They think, they feel, they create, they discover, they know much more than we know they knowThat is propably true.
Let me try to write up a good explanation of consciousness.... Hmm. Okay, let's take the meditation novice's point of view: Consciousness includes the ability to perceive yourself as the actor of your actions, as the subject, who does things. The ability to perceive your self.
You have strange dreams, so you might not be able to relate :shrug: but when I dream, I sometimes do it in an "unconscious" way. E.g. I don't control my actions, I don't even realize what I'm doing, things are just happening, and I'm not aware of being a self, of being an actor. And later I remember them and I remember I was in that dream. But this feeling of being the subject who dreams, of being an I, of being a person, returns only when I'm awake. (I also know lucid dreams and other dreams where I'm more conscious btw...)
What we don't know is wether animals are able to perceive them selves or wether they just act the way they learned to act at one point. They can be smart, they can follow goals, they can even (monkeys at least) realize that the thing in the mirror is their own image. But are they proper aware of being someone? Or are they more in a dream like state? We might not ever know...
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everything has the same soul
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@OliveOlivia I dont care if I have a soul or not. As long as I have your heart, I will be alive :smirk:
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I read your post in the entirety.
Here is what i I took away from it:- "I have no other arguments except those three things so instead I'll argue symantics over 'Evidence' and 'Proof' and pretend to take the higher ground by saying you win... By saying it was some type of a symantics technicality instead of admitting I have no kind of evidence/proof of God. You win because I let you win 😝"
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@pe7erpark3r said in Do you believe in souls?:
@Electrifying-Guy said in Do you believe in souls?:
With this in mind, there is a very good chance that spirits/ghosts are made up of non-solid energy and thus are very likely composed of electro-magnetic energy and create EMF spikes/fluctuations when you encounter them.
This is an interesting notion: is the soul some form of energy that might be measurable?
This is notion of new physics. It is not a notion of any religion though.
When most people think about an immaterial soul that persists after death, they have in mind some sort of blob of spirit energy that takes up residence near our brain, and drives around our body like a soccer mom driving an SUV. The questions are these: what form does that spirit energy take, and how does it interact with our ordinary atoms? Not only is new physics required, but dramatically new physics. Within QFT, there cannot be a new collection of "spirit particles" and "spirit forces" that interact with our regular atoms, because we would have detected them in existing experiments. Ockham's razor is not on your side here, since you have to posit a completely new realm of reality obeying very different rules than the ones we know.
The western (christian) idea of the soul is, that it is that which lives on when you die. This idea includes that the soul is conscious. Apart from this Christians also believed that the soul was spirit, like God, and thus not measurable and not a form of energy.
Same goes for hindus and jainism. They defined soul as conscious being which is different from body. Body is made of energy but soul is energy-less and non-measurable.
If we talk about some other schools of indian philosophy here we go
There are four main views of the self in Indian philosophy. According to the Carvakas, the self is the living body with the attribute of consciousness. This is the materialistic conception of the self. The Buddhists reduce the self to a stream of thought or a series of cognition. Like some empiricists and sensationists, they admit only the empirical self. The Advaita. Vedanta. takes the self as one, unchanging and self-shining intelligence is neither a subject nor an object, neither the 'I' nor the 'me.' The Visistadvaita, Vedanta, however, holds that the self is not pure intelligence as such but an intelligent subject called the ego or the 'I' . Both these views of the self may be called idealistic in a broad sense. -
@pe7erpark3r i am replying really late. xD
Science at this point is not sure about why time runs forward. From the point of view of relativity you have four dimensions and you can compute everything forward or backward. There is no reason in relativity theory for why time should run forward. Thus one of the explicatory models for why time runs forward is entropy, for it always increases in one direction (forward in time).
The argument was that if information could run backwards in time, then entropy would increase backwards too. This obviously should not happen. Thus knowing the future contradicts the increase of entropy forward in time.
But you are perfectly right, there should be no need for even referencing why knowing the future could be supernatural. Knowing the future (if it was really so) would be evidence for something supernatural going on.
The thermodynamic arrow of time will describe it better, the arrow of time is the "one-way direction" or "asymmetry" of time. The thermodynamic arrow of time is provided by the second law of thermodynamics, which says that in an isolated system, entropy tends to increase with time. Entropy can be thought of as a measure of microscopic disorder; thus the second law implies that time is asymmetrical with respect to the amount of order in an isolated system: as a system advances through time, it becomes more statistically disordered. This asymmetry can be used empirically to distinguish between future and past, though measuring entropy does not accurately measure time. Also, in an open system, entropy can decrease with time.
If time were perfectly symmetrical, a video of real events would seem realistic whether played forwards or backwards. Gravity, for example, is a time-reversible force. A ball that is tossed up, slows to a stop, and falls is a case where recordings would look equally realistic forwards and backwards. The system is T-symmetrical. However, the process of the ball bouncing and eventually coming to a stop is not time-reversible. While going forward, kinetic energy is dissipated and entropy is increased. Entropy may be one of the few processes that is not time-reversible. According to the statistical notion of increasing entropy, the "arrow" of time is identified with a decrease of free energy.
Surely I agree that science is not sure bout lots of stuff but that doesn't make anything supernatural more valid, this is an argument from ignorance.Have you ever talked to someone who claims to have known when a loved one died? The ones I talked to have made a convincing case, and they were normal people with normal lives who did not fear all day that something bad would happen.
So, unless you can counter each and every such experience (and not just the soldier and his wife fearing) it would be irrational to not call this evidence. It is not proof, I fully agree, because for every single instance alone there might be another explanation, but with so many cases calling it evidence is perfectly reasonable.
Again even if what you are saying is true, let's say they somehow claim that they know that something bad was gonna happen or had happened. First of all, this is only a claim. Secondly, the burden of proof lies on you and the one who is making the claim that they knew coz people tends to make lots of stories after something had happened it's in our nature.
I dunno if you have played this game or not when you were a kid, we used to sit in circle then one kid tells a story and when it returned back to them the story becomes totally different.Don't just go ahead and claim things without any verification. In recent years there have been lots of muslims who had visions of Jesus and converted to christianity because of this. In fact in history there have been many accounts of people converting from other faiths to christianity, because of a vision like this. It actually happens a lot. And it also happens with near death experiences.
And there are lots of Christians who have converted to Islam coz had visions of Muhammad or to Hinduism coz they have visions of Krishna or Vishnu or Shiva. There are lots of Christians who think that Joseph Smith is their lord saviour, they are also known as Mormons.
But yes, I concede that there might be other explanations. However since you cannot prove that other explanations are the correct explanation, it is perfectly reasonable to call this evidence, since evidence, just like in any criminal case, can point in multiple directions.
I am not claiming anything, you're the one who is making claims so you have to provide explanations.
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher HitchensPlease think it trough properly. Things don't come out of nowhere. Existence is a mystery. There should be nothing, not even the possibility of something happening. Something does not come from nothing.
Yes I do know about quantum particles being created in what we call "nothing". (I add the quotes, because we actually don't understand the quantum world properly yet. We still have no quantum-gravity and we don't know how space time is related to quantum mechanics. So we are not sure about this nothing really, but thats not the actual point. The actual point is: ) Quantum particles are created all the time. There is nature to it. This is not a possibility of anything happening, it is a possibility of something very specific happening. There is a reason this happens.
So there is something, even if that something is this quantum nature which we don't understand yet. Something is there even if that something is not matter but a nature or a possibility. And from this comes something else, particles, a zero sum game.
So something does not come from nothing, something does not happen without a reason, only without a cause (at least it seems that way in the quantum world).
Maybe I'm making this a bit too complicated here. Maybe I should just say: there should be nothing. There should not even be the possibility of something. But there is something. And this something seems completely regular, logical, mathematical. So it is there for a reason. It cannot be there for no reason. It could not be there without the possiblity of being there.
I agree that we don't know everything yet, we haven't solved the realm of quantum mechanics and yes there are bubbles of energy surges in empty space what we call "nothing" matter and anti-matter get created all the time. But this is a game of probability, there is no reason for anything to happen and the reason isn't surely some primates living on a small planet in a distant corner of milky way galaxy. We are nothing more than a speck of dust in time and space.
So all the organised religions whose gods interfere in the lives of these primates are totally made by those primates and are nothing more than delusions.Thus it cannot be, that there "once" (or before time or outside of time) was nothing. Something must have always (or rather eternally) been there, even if that something is just the nature of things.
I used the word eternal for a reason. Eternal does not mean: time that stretches forever into the past and forever into the future. Eternal would also be something that was not inside this universe, not inside time (because time is space-time, it clearly began at the big-bang according to our understanding of it – which is a consensus among scientists).
So, something must be eternal, or else there would not be anything. This something can either be nature (A quantum world from which universes pop out is one example of such an eternal nature) or it can be God.
I agree that there must be something outside our time and space that caused Bigbang to happen, but we have no evidence to state that it was "eternal" or "supernatural" and we can never know what it is (it seems like that for now but maybe our technology can advance to a level that we can see or know it), but if that something whatever it is exists, it can not interfere in our space and time.
So, something must be eternal, or else there would not be anything. This something can either be nature (A quantum world from which universes pop out is one example of such an eternal nature) or it can be God.
There is no "we don't know". We don't know how this universe came to be yes. But we do know that nature (from which this universe came to be) must be eternal, if we do not want to assume God.
No, it doesn't have to be eternal, everything will exist even if it is not eternal. This something is what we don't know and it has more probability of being a giant teapot rather than a god coz at least there is evidence that teapot exists, and the probability of it being one of the gods made up by our religions is almost zero.
Nobody did. That is the point. God is his own reason, or he has no reason. This fact, as you can clearly see, makes him irrational. Right?
If there is no God, then what is the reason for being? Nature itself. Ergo, nature itself is its own reason, or has no reason. This makes nature irrational in the same sense as God would be irrational. I hope this makes the argument clearer.
Well according to your own reasoning something can't come out from nothing so surely god cant come out of nothing.
There is no reason for being. Again all you are doing is making claims, so many claims without any scientific evidence. And how would you know that the god is a "he"?
As Carl Sagan said “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"You simply dismiss evidence by countering it each with a single argument. But evidence, just like in a criminal case, often cannot be dismissed this easily. Sometimes, just like in a criminal case, you will never know if something really is evidence or not. And as long as you cannot disprove beyond doubt that something is evidence, it is perfectly rational and fine to call it so. So don't BS me!
Well all the evidence you showed worth nothing and proves nothing, by all due respect present these so-called "evidence" in front of some scientists and win a Nobel prize or something
In the end, I will quote Richard Dawkins
“It's been suggested that if the super-naturalists really had the powers they claim, they'd win the lottery every week. I prefer to point out that they could also win a Nobel Prize for discovering fundamental physical forces hitherto unknown to science. Either way, why are they wasting their talents doing party turns on television?By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.”
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@OliveOlivia i honestly believe humans have souls because we as human beings are able to experience consciousness and unconsciousness, and having a soul is the difference between being conscious and unconscious. When our mind enters REM sleep, which is the level of sleep that scientists refer to as “deep sleep”, we are considered to be unconscious since we are unaware of our surroundings and have no control over our actions or what our body does during that sleep. This occurs because the soul exits the body, leading to unconsciousness, as its way of resting the body after a long day. When this happens, the body goes through the period we now refer to as “sleep”.
Psychology used to refer to “the study of the soul”, but psychologists have left the term “soul” for “mind”, changing the definition to “the study of the mind”.
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I believe in souls since i had a story with one
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@ChaosKing when i was younger i saw a soul because i had a accident with my bycycle with 14 i was dying on this crash while broke my neck to pieces
I remember pain and blood
as i awoke in hospital someone stand next to me a nurse told me to never give up on me and that my time not came !
i started to tell the doctors about this nurse since i saw the other world before with my own eyes ..
but the doctors told me there was never someone with me
they said one nurse like her died 2 years ahead of me before i was there
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@Hyde said in Do you believe in souls?:
@ChaosKing when i was younger i saw a soul because i had a accident with my bycycle with 14 i was dying on this crash while broke my neck to pieces
I remember pain and blood
as i awoke in hospital someone stand next to me a nurse told me to never give up on me and that my time not came !
i started to tell the doctors about this nurse since i saw the other world before with my own eyes ..
but the doctors told me there was never someone with me
they said one nurse like her died 2 years ahead of me before i was there
but she was a good soulIndeed, near death experiences are an interesting thing to note when we talk about evidence for the soul. Sadly I believe the information we have about them is mixed... Some are hallucinations, others might be real, and it's hard to tell the difference.
A very interesting experience... I wonder what I would see if I almost died...
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@pe7erpark3r I believe in it was real since the doctors told me there was a nurse died 2 years ahead of me
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@petrapark3r From what you are saying I'm not really sure what consciousness is. I've always been told that it simply being aware of ones self and its surroundings. If that is all it is than I would definitely say that animals have this, Monkeys for instance, I wouldn't say theyre any less conscious than us, dolphins, ocras, etc.
I think just because animals don't act and 'aren't as smart' as us, people don't realize they are greater than they appear. They are smart, they know what theyre doing, they do not just act and react. They think, they feel, they create, they discover, they know much more than we know they know -
@Male101y Dunno, but the best way I could describe it is energy
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@ChaosKing said in Do you believe in souls?:
@petrapark3r first of all sorry for the late reply, haven't been here much.
np :blush:
- Many people frequently experience knowing things in advance in their life, I don't know what you are talking about but I have not known a single person who can see the future.
I concede, that it is not that common. So I wouldn't expect you to know someone like that. There are instances however.
Using complex words like entropy and stuff doesn't make it the right argument.
Of course not.
"Entropy is the measure of a system’s thermal energy per unit temperature that is unavailable for doing useful work." In simple words, entropy is a measure of disorder in the sense that all systems tend to, on their own, become less ordered. I don't know how it is related to your argument.
Science at this point is not sure about why time runs forward. From the point of view of relativity you have four dimensions and you can compute everything forward or backward. There is no reason in relativity theory for why time should run forward. Thus one of the explicatory models for why time runs forward is entropy, for it always increases in one direction (forward in time).
The argument was that if information could run backwards in time, then entropy would increase backwards too. This obviously should not happen. Thus knowing the future contradicts the increase of entropy forward in time.
But you are perfectly right, there should be no need for even referencing why knowing the future could be supernatural. Knowing the future (if it was really so) would be evidence for something supernatural going on.
- Well that's coz people almost think every day that something bad happened to their loved once, take an example of a soldier, soldiers do work in a dangerous situation, and their family members know that so these bad thoughts keep coming in their mind and if something bad happens it doesn't mean that something supernatural communicated to them to tell that something bad happened with their loved one.
Have you ever talked to someone who claims to have known when a loved one died? The ones I talked to have made a convincing case, and they were normal people with normal lives who did not fear all day that something bad would happen.
So, unless you can counter each and every such experience (and not just the soldier and his wife fearing) it would be irrational to not call this evidence. It is not proof, I fully agree, because for every single instance alone there might be another explanation, but with so many cases calling it evidence is perfectly reasonable.
- There is lots of evidence, lots and lots, to support that the human brain creates illusions and hallucination when it is under stress. Anyway if you are a Hindu you will see Lord Krishna, if you're a Christian you will see Jesus or Yahweh (mostly Jesus) if you're a Muslim you will see Muhammad or Allah, can't you see how every near-death experience depends on your religion. I also had some hallucinations a while ago and I can't blame them, it feels so real.
Don't just go ahead and claim things without any verification. In recent years there have been lots of muslims who had visions of Jesus and converted to christianity because of this. In fact in history there have been many accounts of people converting from other faiths to christianity, because of a vision like this. It actually happens a lot. And it also happens with near death experiences.
But yes, I concede that there might be other explanations. However since you cannot prove that other explanations are the correct explanation, it is perfectly reasonable to call this evidence, since evidence, just like in any criminal case, can point in multiple directions.
- First of all multiverse theory is still a hypothesis it's not yet a scientific theory, and I am pretty sure it doesn't say the universe is eternal it states that there may be multiple or even an infinite number of universes.
This wasn't the point of the argument. I was simply including all common theories. I propably should have used the word "world" or "nature" though instead of universe or multiverse to make it clear what I am talking about: the natural world.
Please get your facts correct. There are not "ONLY TWO OPTIONS". Please learn to say we don't know, coz we don't know the origin of the universe yet, that's the only place God is hiding rn.
Please think it trough properly. Things don't come out of nowhere. Existence is a mystery. There should be nothing, not even the possibility of something happening. Something does not come from nothing.
Yes I do know about quantum particles being created in what we call "nothing". (I add the quotes, because we actually don't understand the quantum world properly yet. We still have no quantum-gravity and we don't know how space time is related to quantum mechanics. So we are not sure about this nothing really, but thats not the actual point. The actual point is: ) Quantum particles are created all the time. There is nature to it. This is not a possibility of anything happening, it is a possibility of something very specific happening. There is a reason this happens.
So there is something, even if that something is this quantum nature which we don't understand yet. Something is there even if that something is not matter but a nature or a possibility. And from this comes something else, particles, a zero sum game.
So something does not come from nothing, something does not happen without a reason, only without a cause (at least it seems that way in the quantum world).
Maybe I'm making this a bit too complicated here. Maybe I should just say: there should be nothing. There should not even be the possibility of something. But there is something. And this something seems completely regular, logical, mathematical. So it is there for a reason. It cannot be there for no reason. It could not be there without the possiblity of being there.
Thus it cannot be, that there "once" (or before time or outside of time) was nothing. Something must have always (or rather eternally) been there, even if that something is just the nature of things.
I used the word eternal for a reason. Eternal does not mean: time that stretches forever into the past and forever into the future. Eternal would also be something that was not inside this universe, not inside time (because time is space-time, it clearly began at the big-bang according to our understanding of it – which is a consensus among scientists).
So, something must be eternal, or else there would not be anything. This something can either be nature (A quantum world from which universes pop out is one example of such an eternal nature) or it can be God.
There is no "we don't know". We don't know how this universe came to be yes. But we do know that nature (from which this universe came to be) must be eternal, if we do not want to assume God.
Please tell me who created the GOD?
Nobody did. That is the point. God is his own reason, or he has no reason. This fact, as you can clearly see, makes him irrational. Right?
You are answering a simple question with another question if God created the universe who created god? The universe will be irrational, what does that even mean?
If there is no God, then what is the reason for being? Nature itself. Ergo, nature itself is its own reason, or has no reason. This makes nature irrational in the same sense as God would be irrational. I hope this makes the argument clearer.
Not a single word you said is evidence it is BS....
You simply dismiss evidence by countering it each with a single argument. But evidence, just like in a criminal case, often cannot be dismissed this easily. Sometimes, just like in a criminal case, you will never know if something really is evidence or not. And as long as you cannot disprove beyond doubt that something is evidence, it is perfectly rational and fine to call it so. So don't BS me!
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-"There is no evidence God exsists"
="Oh yeah? Let me point at what appears to be a highly complex thing that we didn't figure out yet! That proves it because God understands it!"
-"That just prove we don't understand it yet. Like a solar eclipse, we used to think that was a sign from God. But now we understand it and know it's not a sign of God."
="Oh yeah? Well I know God is real because Miracles prove it!"
-"No, miracles prove we don't know what caused an event. It doesn't prove any god was behind it"
="Oh yeah? Well I KNOW God is real because I have faith in Him, Trust what my fellow religious peers taught me, and can feel He is real!"
I had an acquaintance once that had complete faith they could fly, devoutly trusted they would float, and knew they could because they could feel the power to fly surging through them.
They needed to pressure wash the blood off of the sidewalk after they got done shoveling up the pieces of my acquaintance.
But that's basically the basis of all of your arguments, @pe7erpark3r .
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1- you know God is real because there are things you don't understand.
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2- you know God is real because you see miracles (events you don't understand)
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3- you know God is real because you feel/have faith/trust he is real.
Can you place ANY arguement In favor for the exsistence of any god without these three flawed arguments?
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@ScruffyMutt said in Do you believe in souls?:
-"There is no evidence God exsists"
="Oh yeah? Let me point at what appears to be a highly complex thing that we didn't figure out yet! That proves it because God understands it!"
You know up until now I was kind of convinced that atheists were rational people. You however have sunken from seemingly rational argument to insult.
This is an insult, because wether God understands anything has nothing to do with my argument, and secondly, I never said it proves anything. Also you haven't understood the important part that can be understood about the highly complex thing or you wouldn't have written "yet". But I give you this, it cannot be called proof.
-"That just prove we don't understand it yet. Like a solar eclipse, we used to think that was a sign from God. But now we understand it and know it's not a sign of God."
="Oh yeah? Well I know God is real because Miracles prove it!"
Next insult: I never said I knew God was real, and I never said that Miracles prove it. You have sunken to insult me, because you cannot counter the logic that allows me to call miracles evidence.
-"No, miracles prove we don't know what caused an event. It doesn't prove any god was behind it"
Why do you take my words into your mouth like this? This is pretty much what I said. Miracles don't prove a thing. They are simply evidence, like a cigarette on a crime scene. It might have been a passer by. It might have been the suspect...
="Oh yeah? Well I KNOW God is real because I have faith in Him, Trust what my fellow religious peers taught me, and can feel He is real!"
Next insult: I did not say this, and I would not, for this is not an argument. The argument goes as follows:
People get told an incredible story (guy killed on cross, resurrected). Believeing it gets them killed. And yet in masses they convert. Ergo: evidence of something other happening that just an incredible story being told.
I had an acquaintance once that had complete faith they could fly, devoutly trusted they would float, and knew they could because they could feel the power to fly surging through them.
They needed to pressure wash the blood off of the sidewalk after they got done shoveling up the pieces of my acquaintance.
Did you really have that acquaintance? :joy: Sorry I have a bit of a black humor, so I have to laugh about this... But yeah, I use this argument too, because it shows us, that with everything you believe you can be close to the truth, or very very far from it.
But that's basically the basis of all of your arguments, @pe7erpark3r .
No it is not, and you know it. But I wasn't even at the end of my list of evidence and yet you ran away, because you couldn't counter the logic behind me calling them evidence.
- 1- you know God is real because there are things you don't understand.
I never said I know God was real. I called these things evidence, because they fit our modern definition of evidence in our court systems all around the world.
- 2- you know God is real because you see miracles (events you don't understand)
These are not just events that I don't understand. These are some very specific things happening in some very specific places. The next kind of miracles I will mention in the other topic, will highlight this point even better.
And no I never said I knew that God was real. Stop insulting me.
- 3- you know God is real because you feel/have faith/trust he is real.
That is not an argument, which is why I did not say this. I would never call my own (or anyboy's) feeling evidence. (That was just a personal answer to a personal question) Stop putting mouths into my word. Stop insulting me.
Actually you might be insulting yourself. I mean who would put words into other peoples mouth like this?
Can you place ANY arguement In favor for the exsistence of any god without these three flawed arguments?
I never used these three flawed arguments. They are arguments you put in my mouth. And no I have no arguments for the existence of just any god. I only have arguments for evidence of the Christian God.
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@ScruffyMutt Look. I'm sorry that we have gotten so far... so before this escalates any further...
I'm ready to concede that one might not call the "origin of the universe" thing evidence, because it is indeed highly complex and leads to something irrational in any case.
But I think you do understand why I call the miracles evidence. So please concede, that one can reasonably call them evidence, and I will concede that one can reasonably call them unconvincing.
This will get us both back to a rational way of communicating.
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It wasn't an insult. It is exactly how you sound.
" I never said it proves anything. "
It was the very first piece of evidence you have for god in our debate.ev·i·dence
/ˈevədəns/
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the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.proof
/pro͞of/
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noun: proof; plural noun: proofs
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evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.Evidence and proof are synonymous.
"Miracles don't prove a thing. They are simply evidence, ..."
See above.
"People get told an incredible story (guy killed on cross, resurrected). Believeing it gets them killed. And yet in masses they convert. Ergo: evidence of something other happening that just an incredible story being told."
People are told smoking and vaping are bad for you and can kill you. Yet people start smoking for the first time every day. It's irrelevant.
"Did you really have that acquaintance? 😂"
Her name was Virgina."And no I never said I knew that God was real. Stop insulting me."
It's the whole basis of your relegious posts. Double think/double talk doesn't work on me, Mr. Orwell"I never used these three flawed arguments. "
These are exactly the arguments you use. Spot on."And no I have no arguments for the existence of just any god. I only have arguments for evidence of the Christian God."
Semantics. More double talk.
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@ScruffyMutt said in Do you believe in souls?:
It wasn't an insult. It is exactly how you sound.
" I never said it proves anything. "
It was the very first piece of evidence you have for god in our debate.ev·i·dence
/ˈevədəns/
noun
1.
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.How can you consider picking a definition of a term that suits your argument, to be a valid argument? Here is Wikipedia's definiton:
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.[1] This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion. At the other extreme is evidence that is merely consistent with an assertion but does not rule out other, contradictory assertions, as in circumstantial evidence.
proof
/pro͞of/
noun
noun: proof; plural noun: proofs
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evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.Wiki: A proof is sufficient evidence or a sufficient argument for the truth of a proposition
Evidence and proof are synonymous.
I clearly stated my definition of evidence at the beginning of the discussion. It was not synonymous with proof. You agreed with the definition. Now you are just trying to "win" the argument. Fine. You have won.
"Miracles don't prove a thing. They are simply evidence, ..."
See above.
See above.
"People get told an incredible story (guy killed on cross, resurrected). Believeing it gets them killed. And yet in masses they convert. Ergo: evidence of something other happening that just an incredible story being told."
People are told smoking and vaping are bad for you and can kill you. Yet people start smoking for the first time every day. It's irrelevant.
No it's not. Just like with smoking there is obviously something to it, that makes them risk their lives... And in contrast to smoking, the threat is much more imminent.
"Did you really have that acquaintance? 😂"
Her name was Virgina.Sorry to hear :(
"And no I never said I knew that God was real. Stop insulting me."
It's the whole basis of your relegious posts. Double think/double talk doesn't work on me, Mr. OrwellNo it is not. There is a clear line between "knowing" and "believing". I don't know God exists, because my conviction that God is, does not match my definition of knowing. Knowing to me is knowing things like 1+1=2 or that the earth is round. Believing is trusting in something you cannot know in this way.
I am true to my words, true to my definitions. I don't say one thing and later say it means the other.
"I never used these three flawed arguments. "
These are exactly the arguments you use. Spot on.You just want to win the argument now... you know I did not use them like this. But fine. Win.
"And no I have no arguments for the existence of just any god. I only have arguments for evidence of the Christian God."
Semantics. More double talk.
You have no evidence for any god (including your Christian God) except for pointing at things you don't understand or pointing at other people who believe or pointing to your own belief.You once said you wanted evidence. You meant you wanted proof, as you clearly pointed out right now, by saying evidence is synonymous to proof. There is no proof. Ergo you won, by tricking me into assuming you wanted evidence. Semantics indeed.
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@ScruffyMutt said in Do you believe in souls?:
I read your post in the entirety.
Here is what i I took away from it:- "I have no other arguments except those three things so instead I'll argue symantics over 'Evidence' and 'Proof' and pretend to take the higher ground by saying you win... By saying it was some type of a symantics technicality instead of admitting I have no kind of evidence/proof of God. You win because I let you win 😝"
Well, anybody can read the whole discussion themselves anyways. I'm not done listing the evidence according to my definition, in case you want to keep posted.
I have no evidence according to your definition of evidence (which is as you said synonymous to proof). Ergo you have won.
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@ScruffyMutt said in Do you believe in souls?:
You have no evidence for any god (including your Christian God) except for pointing at things you don't understand or pointing at other people who believe or pointing to your own belief.
Just to clarify: I did point to something nobody understands, I pointed to other people who were non-christians and then became christians, I also pointed to christians yes (I disagree with the notion that a christian scientist or doctor is not trustworthy just because he is christian), and I will point to non-believers. I never pointed to my own believe as an argument or evidence (and I would never do so), I simply told you about it.
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This is an interesting question. However I apologize for my late reply. If we talk about philosophy, some philosophers try to explain soul with following reference
- 'I do', 'I type'. That 'I' is addressing not to our body but it is addressing to our soul.
- Some other philosophers describe body and self are same like fire of lamp and it's flame are same. In other words, self is illusion
I do not support philosophical way to prove or disprove it's existence because it is difficult to understand
So I would try to explain with my and someone else's experiences
First certified paranormal investigator of our country recently died. The reason behind his death was lack of oxygen actually. He resolved 6000 cases. He doesn't believe in false notions and he investigated with some hi-tech equipment like full spectrum cameras and EMF detectors. Electro-magnetism is the force the keeps gravity from pushing us through the floor, chair or the earth’s crust and it is the force that binds atoms together. With this in mind, there is a very good chance that spirits/ghosts are made up of non-solid energy and thus are very likely composed of electro-magnetic energy and create EMF spikes/fluctuations when you encounter them.
Unlike God you can talk with souls with a an EMF detector. My experience in a graveyard was my waste of time because I stayed there for 2 hours in day. Although I'm attractive :smirk: but nothing happened with me and my detector. Therefore I do not believe in souls. It is prohibited to wander there in night though. Experience of two hours is not enough so I would call a light probability (but not equal to zero) that they really exist.
Edit- Now I am wholly disbeliever of souls because I have gone to graveyard five times in night but I could not find anything abnormal during my investigations. If you keep an electronic equipment near of your EMF detector, it will switch on EMF's light because your mobile has certain radiations. Therefore, making someone's fool is damn easy and people can do anything for the money. I know that people who do claim to seeing holy spirits do suffer from catharsis. Near death experiences are often caused by misfiring of brain cells which can be aggravated with drugs. Don't fighter pilots experience tunnel vision while being on High-G maneuvers ? Actually they have lack of oxygen. Lets see what causes mystical experiences of souls-
1. Taking hallucination drugs
2. Magnetic fields
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@Electrifying-Guy said in Do you believe in souls?:
With this in mind, there is a very good chance that spirits/ghosts are made up of non-solid energy and thus are very likely composed of electro-magnetic energy and create EMF spikes/fluctuations when you encounter them.
This is an interesting notion: is the soul some form of energy that might be measurable?
The western (christian) idea of the soul is, that it is that which lives on when you die. This idea includes that the soul is conscious. Apart from this christians also believed that the soul was spirit, like God, and thus not measurable and not a form of energy.
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@pe7erpark3r said in Do you believe in souls?:
Don't just go ahead and claim things without any verification. In recent years there have been lots of muslims who had visions of Jesus and converted to christianity because of this. In fact in history there have been many accounts of people converting from other faiths to christianity, because of a vision like this. It actually happens a lot. And it also happens with near
Muslims and people of other religions also say exact same things and also give data in favour of their claims. so it doesnt really matter.
i am not an atheist btwI didn't know muslims actually believe that the profet muhammad appears to some of them in visions, so this is news to me.
This however supports my argument, that visions are not caused by your own religion or belief. Thank you for adding some info.
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@idek2019 said in Do you believe in souls?:
@OliveOlivia i honestly believe humans have souls because we as human beings are able to experience consciousness and unconsciousness, and having a soul is the difference between being conscious and unconscious. When our mind enters REM sleep, which is the level of sleep that scientists refer to as “deep sleep”, we are considered to be unconscious since we are unaware of our surroundings and have no control over our actions or what our body does during that sleep.
This occurs because the soul exits the body, leading to unconsciousness, as its way of resting the body after a long day. When this happens, the body goes through the period we now refer to as “sleep”.
This is just a claim, and we should note here, that most people who believe in souls, do not believe that the souls exits the body when they sleep.
Psychology used to refer to “the study of the soul”, but psychologists have left the term “soul” for “mind”, changing the definition to “the study of the mind”.
That is because the term soul is used ambigously and can not just denote the "spirit" but also the emotional state, the mind and touch lots of other areas.
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@ChaosKing said in Do you believe in souls?:
Well first of all thank you for the much more respectful and recognizing answer. I see a fellow intellectual, and I see a deep understanding of physics... Is this your area of expertise?
Then I will say, this is a truly smart reply, for you have given me the only valid answer that allows you to refute my claims: You provide another definition of the term evidence, you require "extraordinary evidence".
The thermodynamic arrow of time will describe it better, the arrow of time is the "one-way direction" or "asymmetry" of time. The thermodynamic arrow of time is provided by the second law of thermodynamics, which says that in an isolated system, entropy tends to increase with time. Entropy can be thought of as a measure of microscopic disorder; thus the second law implies that time is asymmetrical with respect to the amount of order in an isolated system: as a system advances through time, it becomes more statistically disordered. This asymmetry can be used empirically to distinguish between future and past, though measuring entropy does not accurately measure time. Also, in an open system, entropy can decrease with time.
If time were perfectly symmetrical, a video of real events would seem realistic whether played forwards or backwards. Gravity, for example, is a time-reversible force. A ball that is tossed up, slows to a stop, and falls is a case where recordings would look equally realistic forwards and backwards. The system is T-symmetrical. However, the process of the ball bouncing and eventually coming to a stop is not time-reversible. While going forward, kinetic energy is dissipated and entropy is increased. Entropy may be one of the few processes that is not time-reversible. According to the statistical notion of increasing entropy, the "arrow" of time is identified with a decrease of free energy.Again, great explanation of our current models, you definitely have a truly deep understanding of physics!
I'll dive into physics here too, so this is a bit off-topic for the "soul". IMHO the thermodynamic explanation of time seems to show a bit of a tunnel vision of current physics. We have a mathematical model here (Relativity) in which we can compute forward and backward, and we clearly have the increase of entropy as you described. But in nature, in reality, we also have causality. And I don't mean this in any abstract way, I mean you can just look out of the window and you'll see one thing cause the other... And all these causes cannot run backwards, it clearly is a forward causal chain. Entropy is simply not enough to explain causality... Well that's just my take on it anyways. An interesting topic indeed.
And let's not forget the – maybe most important causal connection for this discussion – your (and my) thoughts are also causaly linked forward, or else nothing of what any of us says would make any sense. We would not be able to draw any conclusion at all. I hope you can appreciate the weight of this fact.
Surely I agree that science is not sure bout lots of stuff but that doesn't make anything supernatural more valid, this is an argument from ignorance.
So if future events really caused events in the past – e.g. knowledge of the future that actually comes true despite being known beforehand – then that is quite the hint at something non-natural. For it means that anti-causal (!) things can happen, when instead for the scientific endeavour to make sense, we have to assume that nature is regular, causal and makes sense. But I concede, it is just evidence (by my definition), no proof, not "extraordinary evidence".
And then plays in the fact, that the predictions that are actually historical, like the children of Fatima predicting the second world war (albeit lacking in some detail, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_Fátima) and TLIG predicting the fall of the towers exactly 10 years to the day (http://tlig.org/en/messages/654/, the footnote ofc has been added after the facts...) we see a clear intention behind each profecy (convert and do good). So, this is the kind of prediction I had in mind, when I called this evidence. Now ofc again, you can dismiss this evidence either based on certain arguments, or simply by applying your definition of evidence, fair enough.
So, unless you can counter each and every such experience (and not just the soldier and his wife fearing) it would be irrational to not call this evidence. It is not proof, I fully agree, because for every single instance alone there might be another explanation, but with so many cases calling it evidence is perfectly reasonable.
Again even if what you are saying is true, let's say they somehow claim that they know that something bad was gonna happen or had happened. First of all, this is only a claim. Secondly, the burden of proof lies on you and the one who is making the claim that they knew coz people tends to make lots of stories after something had happened it's in our nature.
Agreed, the burden of proof is on me. Problem with these things is, that scientists do not take them seriously, so nobody wants to put his head on the line, for making a serious study about those. This is no argument, just saying it's difficult. And another reason for it's difficulty is that you cannot reproduce these in a lab, I mean: "we are doing a study: You sit in the lab, and while you sit there we kill your brother but we won't tell you beforehand" is not going to run well with an ethics commitee :joy:. But again, not an argument...
And then sadly it is really hard to verify people's personal accounts. You never know if they are lying. But there is a huge load of people claiming experiences with souls like (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1209795/Reincarnated-Our-son-World-War-II-pilot-come-life.html)... If you look for evidence confirming reincarnation you'll find a lot. Of course you'll also find sceptic's reviews of these things. It is a bit of a jungle I admit, and hard to figure out the truth, for the beforementioned fact, that these things just simply cannot be reproduced in any lab...
As a sidenote I do not believe in reincarnation, but I do believe in souls. And I tend to be very sceptic about each case I hear of too: there sure is a lot of rubbish out there :shrug:. I'm just saying it's a lot of cases... none of it "extraordinary evidence", fair enough...
I dunno if you have played this game or not when you were a kid, we used to sit in circle then one kid tells a story and when it returned back to them the story becomes totally different.
The example is not adequate, for there is no hearsay involved. It's those people making those claims themselves.
Don't just go ahead and claim things without any verification. In recent years there have been lots of muslims who had visions of Jesus and converted to christianity because of this. In fact in history there have been many accounts of people converting from other faiths to christianity, because of a vision like this. It actually happens a lot. And it also happens with near death experiences.
And there are lots of Christians who have converted to Islam coz had visions of Muhammad or to Hinduism coz they have visions of Krishna or Vishnu or Shiva.
Is this really common or are you just hypothesizing? I know it is common among non-christians to have visions of Christ. One of the first videos I found on somebody seeing muhammad was a guy who had a dream about Jesus and muhammad. I'm sure that people do halluzinate all kinds of things. When we are argumenting for a certain religion, the interesting question is which vision do happen to a lot of people out of the blue and without actively inducing it (which is what muslims actually try to do, because they believe that if they dream of muhammad, they'll go to heaven...) or living in a culture where these images are common.
But my original argument was actually agnostic of a specific religion, and I only provided visions of Jesus as a counter to you saying, that christian background makes you see christian visions or hindu background makes you see hindu visions. Apparently you agree with me that such vision tend to happen without the respective background.
There are lots of Christians who think that Joseph Smith is their lord saviour, they are also known as Mormons.
Irrelevant to the discussion. Many people believe in many things. Nobody in their right mind takes their believes themselves as evidence.
But yes, I concede that there might be other explanations. However since you cannot prove that other explanations are the correct explanation, it is perfectly reasonable to call this evidence, since evidence, just like in any criminal case, can point in multiple directions.
I am not claiming anything, you're the one who is making claims so you have to provide explanations.
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher HitchensI absolutely agree with that.
Maybe I'm making this a bit too complicated here. Maybe I should just say: there should be nothing. There should not even be the possibility of something. But there is something. And this something seems completely regular, logical, mathematical. So it is there for a reason. It cannot be there for no reason. It could not be there without the possiblity of being there.
I agree that we don't know everything yet, we haven't solved the realm of quantum mechanics and yes there are bubbles of energy surges in empty space what we call "nothing" matter and anti-matter get created all the time. But this is a game of probability, there is no reason for anything to happen and the reason isn't surely some primates living on a small planet in a distant corner of milky way galaxy. We are nothing more than a speck of dust in time and space.
Yes, there is a reason for anti-matter + matter being created. What you wanted to say is: "there is no cause for them being created, it is simply a game of probability". But there is clearly a reason, a nature to it, for what is being created is matter + anti-matter, not unicorns and Godzilla. Don't missunderstand me, I'm not saying that this reason must be God or anything. I'm saying there is a law to it, it does happen randomly, but it is not random what happens – always the same happens – anti-matter and matter are being created.
So all the organised religions whose gods interfere in the lives of these primates are totally made by those primates and are nothing more than delusions.
I concede that one can come to this conclusion :smile:. And I agree that most of what people believe is made up. I wouldn't call it simply a delusion even in those cases, for it has a function and humanity is quite apt to believing there is something more. But yeah...
I agree that there must be something outside our time and space that caused Bigbang to happen, but we have no evidence to state that it was "eternal" or "supernatural" and we can never know what it is (it seems like that for now but maybe our technology can advance to a level that we can see or know it), but if that something whatever it is exists, it can not interfere in our space and time.
No, it doesn't have to be eternal, everything will exist even if it is not eternal. This something is what we don't know and it has more probability of being a giant teapot rather than a god coz at least there is evidence that teapot exists, and the probability of it being one of the gods made up by our religions is almost zero.
There is a misunderstanding here: The word eternal does not mean anything "supernatural". It is simply defined as (my words): "there is no thinkable state of reality (past/present/future/outside of time) in which something, that is eternal, is not". This is just a definition of a term, something any scientist should be familiar with. And in the case of "eternal" there must logically be something which fits this definition, may it be God or the multiverse or nature or a quantum field or at least a possiblity, or whatever. Something has to be eternal, or else there would be nothing.
Well according to your own reasoning something can't come out from nothing so surely god cant come out of nothing.
Indeed, my reasoning fails: God did not come out of anything. Therefore thinking that "God is" is irrational!
There is no reason for being. Again all you are doing is making claims, so many claims without any scientific evidence.
Indeed, my reasoning fails: Nature did not come out of anything. Therefore thinking that "Nature is" is irrational!
This is not a trick. It is simply a fact of reality: you have to be accept that the origin of existence is irrational, or you cannot be called a rational thinker.
And how would you know that the god is a "he"?
God is not a "he". That's just the way we talk about him. I could go deeper into this, but that would be off-topic, and I don't think you think that I'm stupid enough to have such a simple-minded concept of God...
As Carl Sagan said “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
You simply dismiss evidence by countering it each with a single argument. But evidence, just like in a criminal case, often cannot be dismissed this easily. Sometimes, just like in a criminal case, you will never know if something really is evidence or not. And as long as you cannot disprove beyond doubt that something is evidence, it is perfectly rational and fine to call it so. So don't BS me!
Well all the evidence you showed worth nothing and proves nothing, by all due respect present these so-called "evidence" in front of some scientists and win a Nobel prize or something
Well, times are not ready for this. There is currently a prejudice among most scientists about all supernatural. You are simply laughed at, if you even work on such things. You have no chance of being taken seriously, and thus no chance of acquiring funding, etc. So I'm assuming that one day somebody will get a noble prize for that. However not for proving souls, for spirit remains, by defintion, unprovable. But somebody will probably get a noble prize one day for documenting phenomena that involve the soul.
In the end, I will quote Richard Dawkins
“It's been suggested that if the super-naturalists really had the powers they claim, they'd win the lottery every week. I prefer to point out that they could also win a Nobel Prize for discovering fundamental physical forces hitherto unknown to science. Either way, why are they wasting their talents doing party turns on television?By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.”
― Richard DawkinsI like Richard Dawkins. I mean there are smarter people than him (Einstein for example), but the way he presents his views is definitely genius.
Yeah, I do agree that there are no super powers or people predicting the future in the way this quote insinuates. What I believe is that God acts, and He acts in a certain way, which does not include anything like supernatural powers and makes his action really hard to prove. And I concede that none of the presented evidence fulfills your criteria for "evidence", only mine (which is the criminal case definition of the bullet laying around).
So let's stay open-minded, and admit, that God (and not some super powered hovering monk) might actually be real. Which means to at least not think, that people who believe in God, are (automatically :sweat_smile:) stupid.
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The "Recent" page on Talk With Stranger serves as a hub where users post new content and updates across various topics. It enables members to engage in free chat rooms, share experiences, and reconnect with chat partners. View this post on Tumblr Members can chat in free public chat rooms, share suggested experiences, and join their chat buddies back. When you visit Reddit Chat, then the next thing to do is go through different posts, from finding new friends and random chats to random chat rooms. This allows community members to message, aid and learn from others in a robust, interactive environment. The page encourages an interactive platform by linking between people who really have nothing to link but their willingness for spontaneous interactions around the world.
The Recent Page on TWS Website
Recent page in Talk With Stranger (TWS) can be a static or dynamic place where all users who are looking for recent thoughts, ideas posts and chat with past people. This page serves as a live feed of activity alerts users to new user actions, conversations and chat invitations. The "Recent" page is the core of community-centrism, providing running participation that allows users to quickly participate in free chat rooms and random charlatan index
This page is just as important for new arrivals as it is for users who have been lounging in TWS meta-mall since December, because it captures the pulse of a community. It does not only pin the last posts but also permits followers to respond at lightning speed, either by replying to someone else or starting a new thread.
In this post, we will address the details of how users are active on the Recent page, what types of content they share mostly and how incorporating free chat rooms or random chats level up their experience. In this series we will explore the keywords chat, free chat, chat rooms, free chatroom and random chats at the heart of each of the dynamics that constitute Talk With Stranger.
The Role of the Recent Page: The Catalyst for Live Commerce
The importance of the Recent page on Talk With Stranger cannot be overstated — it serves as a key place where new and previous content can both be discovered and interacted with. This is one such useful page as it displays all the posts in a chronological way which reflects what is really happening on the platform. Whether it be a follow up to the new conversation you just engaged with or ongoing discussions on the topic, there is always something for users to talk about instantly. There are many posts by strangers who want to chat with strangers and talk to strangers online in private stranger chat.
By simplifying the process of connecting, the "Recent" page aims to promote community involvement. Rather than having to go through many areas of the website to locate ongoing conversations or chat rooms, visitors may visit this page and immediately become involved in the most recent exchanges.
Typical post categories on the "Recent" page consist of:
1. Private notes to get in touch with former conversation partners.
2. Requests to join particular chat rooms for talks or games.
3. Queries on a range of subjects, from technical inquiries to life guidance.
4. Friendly salutations or requests to start casual conversations with new users.
TWS makes sure customers don't miss any action by offering a single, user-friendly page, which makes it easier for them to keep informed about current discussions and community developments.
The Foundation of Interaction on Talk With Strangers: Free Chat Rooms
The free chat rooms on Talk With Stranger, which let users text and converse with individuals all around the world, are the center of the community. Because they give users an adaptable and convenient way to meet new people depending on their common interests or needs for impromptu conversation, these chat rooms are an essential feature.
To accommodate a variety of tastes, free chat rooms are separated into several categories. There is something for everyone on TWS, regardless of whether users like the excitement of random talks or would rather join a themed room focused on technology, music, or lighthearted banter. Some chat rooms' randomness enables members to meet individuals from different backgrounds and step outside of their comfort zones.
Common Categories of Free Chat Rooms
1. General Chat Rooms: These rooms provide an informal setting for discussion on any subject. These rooms are great for casual conversations, whether someone wants to share a strange idea or speak about their day.
2. Themed Chat Rooms: A lot of people want to participate in discussions that are tailored to their interests. Users may interact with others who share their interests in relationships, technology, gaming, movies, and other topics by joining themed chat rooms.
3. Random Chat Rooms: One of the TWS platform's most well-liked features is its random chat rooms function. Users are paired with random people in these rooms to have impromptu talks. Random voice chat rooms provide an element of excitement and unpredictability, whether you're wanting to meet someone new or just want to have a surprise conversation.
Random Conversations: A Special Way to Speak With Strangers
One of Talk With Stranger's key features is its random chat feature, which matches users with random people from all around the world. Users never know who they'll be conversing with next because of this feature, which gives the site a sense of surprise and originality.
The popularity of random conversations has increased for a number of reasons:
1. Spontaneity: Random conversations offer a totally unexpected experience, in contrast to other chat platforms where users may join particular groups based on interests. Users who like making new friends or who just want to kill time by striking up a random discussion will find this appealing.
2. Global Reach: Due to the platform's global user base, casual chats frequently result in discussions with individuals from other nations and cultural backgrounds. Because of its diversity, the user experience is enhanced and learning and cultural exchange are made possible.
3. Anonymity: Because TWS random conversations are primarily anonymous, participants are able to express themselves honestly without worrying about disclosing personal information. Because of their anonymity, users may be more at ease and authentic.
The random chat function improves TWS overall by encouraging special and impromptu relationships that would not occur in more formal conversation environments.
Actual Instances of User Engagement on the Recent Page
There is a wide range of active engagement on the Recent page. Users share a variety of content, such as invites to games or group discussions and personal narratives. The "Recent" page can be used in the following typical ways to facilitate connections:
Seeking Former Chat Partners: A lot of people utilize the "Recent" tab to post in an attempt to get in touch with someone they previously spoke with. This is especially typical in situations when participants are chatting randomly and may not have had time to share contact information before the chat ends. As an example, a user could post:
"Searching for the girl who spoke about Harry Potter the day before." Message me if you see this, please!
2. Inviting Users to Join Group chat conversations in group chat rooms: Some users invite others to themed or group conversations by going to the "Recent" page. These entries may provide an overview of the subject matter and an open invitation to participate for everyone who is interested.
"Hi everyone, today we're playing a game of truth or dare in the "Random Fun" chat room. If you're ready for some fun, please feel free to join!
3. Asking queries or advice: Users frequently post queries on TWS in an effort to get advice from other members of the community, which is highly helpful. These might be more serious questions about life, personal recommendations, or suggestions for movies or literature.
"Hey, I need some guidance on how to deal with a challenging circumstance at work. I'd be delighted to hear your opinions!
4. Sharing Personal tales: Users can also share tales or personal experiences with the community on the site. These posts frequently start conversations and bring people together via similar experiences.
"So, last night I had this strange dream. Just curious if anyone else has had something like it." Let's talk about weird dreams!
The community is kept alive and active by the diversity of involvement, which guarantees that there is always something fresh going on the "Recent" tab.
The Influence of Inclusive and Anonymity in Free Chat Rooms
Talk With Stranger's dedication to anonymity is one of its best features. Because sharing personal information is not mandatory, users are able to converse openly and without fear of repercussion. Those who might be reluctant or bashful to express their opinions in more conventional social settings will find this option very intriguing.
Additionally, anonymity creates a level playing field by removing prejudices and preconceptions from interactions between people from different backgrounds. It promotes candid and open discussion since users may voice their opinions without worrying about the consequences.
The website is also quite inclusive, providing free chat rooms that accommodate a wide variety of hobbies and backgrounds. You'll discover a room that works for you whether you want to play games, have in-depth philosophical discussions, or just chat about music.
How to Use the "Recent" Page and Navigate It
New users may easily navigate the "Recent" page.When you log in to the site, the website transforms into a live feed featuring the most recent posts. Here's a little tutorial to help you make the most of it:
1. Look for interesting topics. To see the most recent posts, navigate to the "Recent" page, which is often updated.
2. Post Your Own Message: All it takes to initiate a discussion or pose a query is to make a post. This area can be used for asking for guidance, inviting others to join a discussion, or sharing a thought with the group.
3. React to Others: One of the simplest ways to participate in the community is to reply to other users' postings. Reacting to postings, whether by giving counsel or just jumping into a conversation, promotes deep ties.
4. Invite People to Chat Rooms: You are welcome to publish an invitation on the "Recent" tab if you would want to start a chat room or if you have a particular one in mind. This is a fantastic method to get like-minded people together for games or conversations in groups.
The Significance of Community Engagement and Feedback
Initiating discussions is only one aspect of engagement on the "Recent" tab; community members' feedback and interactions are equally crucial. Feedback can come in a variety of forms, such as answers to queries, supportive comments during conversations, or even helpful critique.
Promoting Positive Criticism
1. Establishing a Safe Space for Sharing: It's critical to have an environment that is encouraging when people offer feedback. Constructive criticism promotes users' confidence in voicing their thoughts, which might result in more in-depth conversations.
2. Encourage Active Listening: Active listening is necessary for participating in discussions on the "Recent" page. Before replying, users should carefully read the posts made by others. This exercise aids in creating pertinent responses that significantly advance the current conversations.
3. Acknowledging Contributions: It's critical for other community members to recognize the insightful viewpoints and helpful counsel that others have shared. To help people feel appreciated, a brief "Thank you" or a more thorough answer might be quite beneficial.
Activities to Foster Community
Community contact is essential for Talk With Stranger to flourish, and the "Recent" page acts as a spark for a variety of community-building events. In addition to maintaining user engagement, these activities help participants form enduring relationships.
Games and Tasks for Groups
By using the postings on the "Recent" tab, a lot of users take the initiative to set up challenges or group activities. These exercises, which encourage cooperation and healthy competition, might be anything from quiz contests to creative writing assignments.
1. Trivia Nights: Users can suggest a trivia night and extend an invitation to others to attend. In order to ensure that everyone may participate, regardless of knowledge level, questions can cover a variety of topics.
2. Creative Writing Challenges: People who love to write in the community often organize writing contests in which participants are required to come up with short tales in response to suggestions. This encourages creativity and gives individuals a platform to demonstrate their writing abilities.
3. Collaborative Projects: people may work together on projects, including starting a blog or community newsletter using content from different people. Everyone feels more invested in the community and more engaged as a result of this team effort.
The Value of Restraint and Safety Procedures
Despite the typically warm and inviting attitude on Talk With Stranger, it's critical to have policies in place that safeguard users and promote a constructive environment. Moderators are employed by the site and are vital in maintaining civil and entertaining interactions for all users.
1. Active Monitoring: Moderators keep an eye out for improper conduct or content on the "Recent" page and in other chat rooms. Their presence guarantees that users feel secure interacting with others and helps discourage bad interactions.
2. Giving users more power: Users are urged to help keep the group honest by sharing any questionable behavior. We can make sure that everyone is responsible for making the workplace nice if we all work together.
4. Educational Initiatives: Another area of the community's concentration is instructing individuals on safe online behavior. A safer environment is achieved by consistently reminding people of the value of preserving personal information and having polite conversations.
Establishing Consistency in Building Trust
Any community needs trust, and developing that trust requires patience and steady work. Users may cultivate trust through their interactions and communication dependability on the "Recent" page.
1. Consistency in Engagement: Engaging in conversations on a regular basis contributes to building a presence in the community. Those who often offer insightful commentary and assistance are likely to establish lasting bonds with one another.
2. Keep Your Words: Users must keep their word when they agree to join a group chat or take part in an activity. Reliability in keeping promises sustains credibility and entices people to interact with you.
3. Transparency in aims: Establishing rapport during discussions can be facilitated by being forthright about one's aims. Clear communication creates a trustworthy atmosphere, whether one is looking for companionship, guidance, or just a good conversation.
Individual Development via Community Involvement
Talk With Stranger conversations offer chances for self development in addition to social connection. Through networking with a variety of people, users may broaden their views and improve their social skills.
1. Improved Communication Skills: Having talks on a daily basis helps users improve their communication skills, making it easier for them to express their thoughts and actively listen to others.
2. Broadened views: Engaging with others from different backgrounds exposes people to a range of countries, ways of life, and views. Having this exposure may increase one's understanding and empathy.
3. Enhanced Confidence: Taking part in discussions, particularly random ones, may give people a boost in confidence. Users could grow more at ease expressing themselves in real and online contexts over time.
The Future of Virtual Communication: Chat Community Trends
The community's ideals and interests are reflected in the content that people have contributed on the "Recent" page. This user-generated content, which ranges from artistic creations to personal narratives, acts as a mirror to the users' varied viewpoints and experiences.
By identifying what appeals to users most, analyzing this content may provide light on the community's collective identity, promote a feeling of community, and inspire others to share their perspectives.
Future developments in technology and user behavior will probably have an impact on Talk With Stranger and other similar services as online communication continues to change. Users' interactions with one another might be influenced by innovations including more individualized chat experiences, AI-driven moderation, and improved privacy options.
Communities will also need to change in response to the increasing desire for inclusiveness and diversity in order to continue being welcome places for people looking to connect and have a discussion.
Concluding Remarks on Engagement Techniques
Here are some last ideas to keep in mind while customers explore the ever-changing "Recent" page to improve their experience:
1. Remain Curious: Enter into discussions with an open mind. Deeper relationships might result from posing questions and demonstrating an interest in the experiences of others.
2. Be Respectful: Regardless of the outcome of a discussion, always show others respect. It is possible to avoid misunderstandings and create a pleasant environment by acting with respect.
3. Promote Inclusive: Try to interact with users who could come out as more reserved or uninvolved. Encouraging everyone to participate contributes to the development of a well-rounded community.
Users may enhance their own and others' experiences on Talk With Stranger by adhering to these rules and helping to create a vibrant and encouraging community.
Summary
Talk With Stranger's "Recent" tab is a hive of activity where people publish updates, participate in free chat rooms, and exchange content with one another. People come together to engage in real-time interaction in this melting pot of concepts, feelings, and relationships. The page's lively interaction demonstrates the platform's function as a global discussion center, making it a fun location to make new friends and get in touch with existing ones.
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS)
Q1: What does the Talk With Strangers "Recent" page entail?
Answer: Users may share their most recent updates, re-connect with others, and have discussions in free chat rooms and sporadic chat sessions on the "Recent" part of the website.
Q2: How do TWS free chat rooms operate?
Answer: Users may join or establish free chat rooms to converse on a variety of topics without having to pay anything. Everyone is welcome to use these rooms, which encourage impromptu conversations.
Q3. Is it possible to locate particular people on the "Recent" page?
Answer: A lot of people do post on the "Recent" tab in an attempt to get in touch with someone they spoke with before. Users can use this function to look up friends or conversation partners from past sessions.
Q4: Is there no cost to utilize Talk With Stranger?
Answer: Users do not need to pay to access random conversations, free chat rooms, and other services on the site.
Q5: What kinds of subjects are covered on TWS?
Answer: A broad variety of subjects are discussed by users, such as dating, movies, technology, life guidance, and more.
Conclusion
The "Recent" tab on the Talk With Stranger platform embodies the spirit of contemporary internet conversation. TWS creates an atmosphere where community members feel linked even when they are geographically separated by providing a place where users may participate in random conversations, have free chat sessions, and post updates. The platform provides a dynamic and varied area to satisfy your social requirements, whether you're looking for a brief chat or a deeper conversation.
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Engaging Popular Topics and Daily Topics in Online Chatrooms
Online chatrooms have given rise to an animated platform, the beauty of which is that people can freely express their views on an infinite number of topics. This makes the chatrooms more appealing than ever. There are many aspects of the popular topics in the chat where people come to share their thoughts, ask questions, or even just talk, whether it is about daily life, fun, issues relating to people, or even news. No matter how quickly the world changes, and how fast paced the world of the internet becomes. These chatrooms make it possible for that ever-new wave of active discussions to take place, ensuring that there are new daily topics on which people will talk. Free chat with other strangers and make new friends online on Talk With Stranger by talking to strangers.
Specifically, in this article, we will look at the most common popular topics and the typical daily topics that sustain chatrooms and their relevance to users worldwide. This guide is designed to walk you through the focus areas that attract the greatest interest and where exactly in today’s reality, they have chatrooms turned into a melting pot of relations based on the commonality of interests. Chat online today on TWS (TalkWithStranger) free chat sites.
The Appeal of Popular Topics Available in Chatrooms
Interesting features include the extensive range of interesting topics available, which appeal to many people, in the chat rooms. Users on such platforms log in to participate in various topics. It includes news, entertainment, and personal life issues where one seeks advice. The interesting thing about these services is that they are very flexible. One can look for a particular chat room for a particular interest or just join general conversations on everydayevery day topics that are suitable to most members.
What Brings People’s Attention to Popular Topics?
Many factors make certain topics interesting in chat rooms:
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Users’ temptations: There is a tendency among users to love taking part in topics that appeal to them the most. This could go like my favorite sport, my best friend, my way of life, etc.
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Topics that grab people’s attention: Such topics would be politics, maternal care, and discussions of trends that are of the moment, the amount of response generated is always impressive.
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Communication: It is often the case that many people from different walks of life have something in common in terms of subjects of interest. Chat rooms provide the perfect medium for enhancing the attainment of the objective given the chances of being supportive.
Popular Topics: Chat Room Examples
Some topics tend to be focused on in chat rooms every time. The topics include:
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Entertainment: Most of the time, some topics revolve around movies, television shows, music, or video games. It could be an advertisement for the most recent movie or a review of the music tabs. One thing that is guaranteed is that entertainment is always booming.
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Personal Relationships: Most of the time chat rooms are used to air relationship challenges, seek assistance, or even share very amusing dating experiences.
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Health and Wellness: Most people seek participation in chat rooms from textbooks or fitness programs for sporting or health advice. Members will often share information concerning the different aspects of healthy living.
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Hobbies and Interests: Chat rooms are great for passionate individuals to unite and talk about photography, trips, or gaming.
The Dynamic Nature of Daily Topics
While popular topics help users join conversations, it is the daily topics that engage users in chat rooms that are activerooms active and interesting all the time. These conversations tend to be more relaxed and light-hearted. They enable users to log in every day and have something to say without feeling overwhelmed by the need to give a detailed response. These daily topics are also particularly useful in helping people form social bonds over ordinary daily enterprises.
How Daily Topics Maintain Interest in Chatrooms
Daily topics are introduced in every chat room to enhance user interaction in each room. These topics revolve around something going on in the current and global environment. Users can share how their day is going, offeringgoing offering their thoughts about any holiday or other memorable day. This strategy I believe aids in making the members active and hence making them wish to come back to the room more often.
Common Types of Daily Topics on Free Chat sites
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Daily Check-Ins: It’s common in most chat rooms to find a thread titled “How’s your day” where individuals post what has been happening to them.
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Current Events: A hot talk is a topic that arises from breaking news the most popular politics of the day or a hot global issue.
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Personal Milestones: Users like to express their achievements, presenting such events as a successful promotion, a new relationship, or losing extra weight.
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Lighthearted Fun: Coveted daily trivia and other everyday topics encourage users to take their time and look for lighthearted and funny themes.
The Change in Trends in Chats and Subjects in Chatrooms
With the advancement in technology, so do the topics in the chat room. Most people talk about the same things over the internet, like entertainment, relationships, health and so other aspects that are popular with the majority. The chat rooms of today are such that members are as likely to engage in understanding tech advancements and sharing thoughts on cryptocurrency and responsible living as much as they do about fetishes and lifestyle fads.
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Trending Popular Topics in Modern Chatrooms
There has been the development of popular topics in chat rooms, especially with the emergence of social media and the quick spread of information. Some of these niches that are becoming increasingly popular in chat rooms include:
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Tech and Gadgets: Since the technology era is ever getting advanced, some users just can never stay in a room without chatting about the most recent devices and applications thatapplications, that are revolutionizing the world today.
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Sustainability: Now more than ever, many people are conscious of environmental concerns and chat rooms are also more about modern living, climate, and sustainability as well.
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Cryptocurrency and Blockchain: Many are still catching up with the crypto world and as the market for cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Ethereum continues to grow. Many chat rooms center around the same helping users provide areas where they can talk about the latest in crypto, and even help investors time the market.
Integrating New Trends
It is one of the outstanding virtues of the chatrooms to incorporate new trends that come up. As new interests develop, chatrooms tend to adopt these changes by adding fresh popular topics that occupy users and keep the subject of the platforms. These trends in popular culture allow abandoning the claim that chat rooms in the modern world no longer have any reason to exist.
Inclusion of Popular Topics and Daily Topics in Building Community
Every active chatroom seems to be vigorous mostly due to the sense of community residing in it. Users do not simply engage in conversations; they relate with persons who have common interests with them. Popular topics become the points where users can strive to begin making conversations while daily topics aim to make the chat rooms more engaging and colorful.
Importance Of Popular Topics In Relating Users
Beginning from the fact that users in a chat room engage in certain popular topics quite frequently, certain bonds start forming. This can either be as a result of a common favorite show or advice given on personal stuff, these talks create an aspect of closeness and attachment among the members.
How Moderators Influence the Nature of Popular Topics
Moderators help scrutinize and enhance what is being talked about in the chat rooms. They keep the closure with users by topping and pinning some hot topics to avoid unnecessary diversion from the subject of discussion.
The Influence of Trending Topics on the Traffic of Chat Rooms
The variation of popular topics is one of the features that is responsible for the constant return by users to the chat rooms. Some topics, once they become popular, are known to draw an even bigger audience and hence create a lot of movement into the platform. This is particularly true of chatrooms which are mostly focused on current discussions concerning trends that are fascinating enough to pitch a large number of people to walk in and join in the talk that is actively going on.
User-Generated Content and Its Effects on the Popular Daily Topics
The nature of all the user-generated content is also one of the things that appeals more to popular topics. The main weakness which traditional media hosts is that it is very rare and poorly structured by active participants which are the members and audiences of free chat rooms. This therefore explains why popular topics are referred to as fluid and flexible to the will and wishes of people.
Some of the most common user-generated popular topics that have been known to attract traffic include:
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Live Event Discussions: Large events containing competitions like sports, award ceremonies, and others, are all great topics because they usually attract large numbers of users to chat rooms to discuss these events as they are happening.
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Viral Challenges and Trends: It could be an internet challenge, a viral meme, videos, or animations; chatrooms are channels that enable users to engage and talk about such trends.
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Advice Columns: It is no news that threads and discussions seeking to offer or request advice on matters of relationships, career choices, and even health are some of the most actively participated areas in chatrooms from their popular circles.
How Chatrooms Evolve Around Daily Topics
As time goes by, chatrooms change in their structure and contents. This is because the trends and preferences of the users also change over time. Daily topics are essential as they keep chatrooms functional as a channel of instant communication. These days, most of the chatrooms are adding up new technologies and features to meet the increasing expectation of instant communication.
The Rise of Real-Time Interactions
With social media being the key to communication, chatrooms also adopted a real-time interaction facility that allows users to participate in a conversation that has already commenced. Daily topics such as current affairs, news, or what is trending at that time can be used for such calls for discussions. This is the essence of immediacy and it is arguably why people would want to participate and interact with other people.
Mobile Chatrooms and Their Social Aspects
Mobile devices dominate the internet today and chatrooms have adapted their systems to this trend. The change has had a notable effect on the way people consume the questions of the day and interact with them. It is now possible for users to get into chatrooms from any location which ensures that conversations about questions of the day remain ongoing and current in real time.
Some of the factors that have contributed to the emergence of mobile chatrooms include:
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Push Notifications: Additionally, notifications will notify users about a daily topic of interest that has been posted and will enhance user engagement.
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Instant Messaging Features: For instance due to social mobile app chatrooms incorporating messaging features instant messaging features make convenient discussions around daily topics easier.
Popular Topics and Niche Communities
While most chatrooms deal with broad-based popular topics that capture thousands and thousands of users’ interest, the same cannot be said of niche communities which constitute an integral part of the chatroom ecosystem. Usually, people cluster in small groups with specific topics or interests that are more specific than just the broad original topic. It could be a fan club dedicated to this or that serial or the IT trends. These focus communities allow their users to address such a trend in more detail rather than attract a wider audience.
Why Niche Popular Topics Are So Trending Today
Niche popular topics are on the rise owing to how different chatrooms can cater to the individual user’s needs. As users are looking for more focused content, such specific forums enable discussions that are not just skin-deep. This approach effectively sustains user interest by allowing them to interact with those who share their interests and have different spheres of passion.
Some other examples of niche popular topics are:
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Science and Fantasy Fiction: Chatrooms that are dedicated to everything from the latest picture books and motion pictures to fan artfanart creation.
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DIY And Crafting: These boards help people exchange tips, tutorials, and projects and form a constructive activity-oriented community.
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Fitness And Wellness: In recent years niche forums focused on fitness training, meal plans, and mental health discussions have become quite popular as well.
The Future of Popular Topics and Daily Topics
Popular topics as well as daily topics will always be at the center of interaction by the users. The competition for live and engaging content has been fuelled as many more lounges introduce real-time elements. This transformation brought to light the relevance of chatrooms in bridging the gap between physically distant people while engaging and maintaining the chat as to the current needs of internet users.
An Overview of How AI and Automation Boost Popular Topics
With the growth of AI technology, it has become common to see chatrooms coming up with more automated features to contain conversations that revolve around trending topics. For instance, with the use of AI, most chatrooms can now predict the topics that will be relevant at a certain time and recommend which threads to place or which subjects to discuss. Not only does this improve the experience of the users, but also it keeps the discussions being talked about new and more active than at any other time in history.
Some AI-driven strategies that help maintain popular topics include:
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Intelligent Topic Recommendations: When users feel at ease sharing topics with others, they call upon popularity prediction strategies, which are employed by AI algorithms seeking user trends and behavior toward potential arguments within the community.
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Moderation: As more users join the chatrooms, particularly due to topics of the day or interest, there is a need to create and maintain a positive ambiance in the chatroom. Chat moderation tools based on AI will keep out inappropriate content during the day to ensure that topics remain respectful.
Gamification and User Rewards for Engaging in Daily Topics
Chatrooms are looking for ways to attract users’ attention towards the daily topics, thus, trying to include gamification features in topics. These features include but are not limited to, awarding users with points, badges, and leaderboards to individuals who contribute some reasonable discussions daily to increase and retain users. This makes chatting fun and encourages participation in all activities of the chat community.
Key gamification elements observed in contemporary chatrooms include:
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Star Contribution Leaderboards: Top contributors of the day for these topics are displayed.
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Badges: Users are rewarded with virtual badges for inverting or contributing in to hot debatable subjects.
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Exclusive Education: The best users are allowed to participate in special sections of the website’s top level based on their activity.
Predicting the Next Upsurge of Popular Topics
Both the chatroom administrators as well as the users constantly seek future prevailing subjects. If it is a burning social issue, new technology, or entertainment, being able to do so is precisely what may bolster the attractiveness of chatrooms to their users. Persistent growth in the volume and activity of these audiences will be experienced by those resources that promptly create therapeutic forums for trending topics.
Most Popular Chatroom Topics That Will Certainly Emerge In the Future:
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Sustainable Living and Eco-Friendly Practices: With the increasing global awareness of climate change, there will be a shift in the direction that chat room discussions will focus on sustainable living. They will focus mainly on sharing ideas, and materials, and talking about ways of living sustainably.
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Blockchain and Cryptocurrency: The technology of blockchain and the whole trend of cryptocurrency is still likely to be an ever-enticing subject among fellow forum members.
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Mental Health and Well-Being: As the world continues to focus on mental health issues, there will be more and more discussion forums on the sources of the problems self-care, and support which will be a very popular subject
Conclusion
The reason many chat rooms are still being used is because there are always interesting issues and current topics. It is through these conversations that users can interact with each other and share their experiences and people even establish relationships. Busy discussing current trends in newscasts, participating in comparative analysis of the newest dramas, or just posting their most important events, chat rooms have finally emerged as a hub for almost everyone who goes online. Talk to strangers in free chat rooms online without registration and meet new people and make new friends in anonymous text chat rooms as well as voice chat with random people and video chatrooms online. Talk With Stranger gives you access to thousands of free chat sites and free chat apps where you can talk to strangers and chat with strangers online without making any account. You can also make audio calls to strangers and phone call strangers online and chat free with random people.
A popular topic serves as a lure for a majority of newcomers, while a daily topic prevents the conversation from going stale. They constitute the keystones of a new order where the peripheral theoretical boundary actively exists as users all over the world converge, interact, and seek connection.
The landscape of chat rooms is very broad, rapidly changing, and accurately represents the current level of interest of the users. No matter whether you want to participate in discussions about popular matters around the world or express your opinion concerning other topics of the current day, a random chatroom like TalkWithStranger represents a great opportunity to stay in touch with diverse people.