• @Berin Collective Consciousness. I know that. It's a hive mind. Like ants or termites the human is the same with that. Have you noticed how only those species can built cities?


  • @Karina-Kara I agree with you on the collective conscience, but I believe that with humans this comes from the psychological need (a more complex psyche) of gregariousness, of satisfying their basic needs, security and pleasure and even their aspirations, which makes us form ethnic groups , social, political and religious. Still, I believe we have our individuality, something not noticeable in ants, termites and bees, which are "controlled" by their queens. What does not fit my mind are concepts of "Gaia hypothesis" and other pantheistic doctrines that place each of us as raindrops returning to an ocean, a "universal whole." Agreeing with some previous points for each individuality there is an unfathomable purpose in the smallness of our minds in the face of the greatness of the Universe and its Creation with an "intelligent design."


  • @Berin
    Are you familiar with the basic concept of the human SOUL?
    There is more truth to it then meets the human eye.
    You see:
    A normal, healthy, and therefore a controllable human, the most basic one, always seeks out another human to find "Love" when it turns an adult.
    It decides to leave its safe nest, to go out in this world and reproduce, away from their parents.
    This "Love" is what forces the human to socialize. It is the binding factor that keeps society together.
    Without it, the cohesion of groups into a much larger group, a society or state, would be impossible.
    Love dictates every move. Every step we take. Subconsciously.
    Some "humans" are free from this means of control.
    They are called "soulless humans". Some of them behave "cold-blooded" or "heartless".
    The soul is esentially the "heart" of the human being, depicted in an abstract way as the cartoony crimson heart we see in all sorts of media.
    It is the very quintessential CORE of the human. Above that is the "spirit". The true "Me".

    A human without a "heart" (not meaning the organ, they would be dead instead) can be a very horrific being. But it still has a spirit that controls the body.
    Love prohibits the human from killing mercilessly. Without it, the human has no stopping morals, no emotional barrier to overcome and thus can act absolutely freely.
    It can still be manipulated and controlled, but no longer through the means of Love.
    It does not understand what it means or feels like. It can only imagine and envy everyone around them that are capable of feeling it. Living it.
    They are cold, restless husks that barely resemble a healthy human. Deep down they are void of life. They are desperate for any kind of love.
    At this point "Love" can become for them "L.o.Ve." = "Level of Violence".
    It's called the "joy of killing". They "love" the pain, the hurting they do to others, as they cannot feel real love and must fill their empty chests somehow with some sort of emotion.
    It often ends in disaster.
    There were many cases in the past that show one what they are capable of. It differs from extreme cases of a mental illness, but they often lead to one.
    Sometimes they are called "possessed" people. But that is rarely the case (being completely controlled from an vengeful spirit, that is).

    That is why there is love to forbid such entity.
    Yet some people do get born without a SOUL from time to time.


  • Oh and before i forget:
    When a human dies, their soul stays for some moments in this world. But it too, disappears.
    What stays forever and cannot be killed is the spirit that eventually reincarnates again in this or another world.

    Here is a text-based image that helped me a lot to understand this matter:
    https://imgur.com/a/AhCGySg


  • @Karina-Kara Love is just a word to most people. The ability to be sensitive to the suffering of others and empathy for others is the closest to "agape" love. As you said to conceive a concept of the immortal essence of the human creature, calling it spirit, it is the intelligent articulator of reality that lives, whether material or in other dimensions of existence. By successive corporeal existences it is refined in the quality of thoughts, feelings and attitudes and it suffers the ills of the previous choices, which explains the previous causes of the human afflictions, since the present ones can be identified in the present existence.


  • @Karina-Kara I like your line of thinking and your reflections


  • @Berin I, too, appreciate your intellect output on this matter.
    Not only that, your addition to other topics also show a higher form of intelligence and guidance.
    And that is what i admire the most of all acts.
    Thank you for helping us.


  • @Berin Also very true.
    The so called "Karma" that eventually will get you and make you pay for your actions.
    It does not matter how much time has passed.
    It will strike you on your most vulnerable moment in your life and you will need to proof yourself that you are strong enough to withstand it and purge yourself from your wrongdoing. Even if they were caused by your previous lifes.


  • @Karina-Kara thanks a lot dear Karina. To me is a pleasure to talk about all of this


  • @Berin I have a lot to share with this world. Yet many are sadly not ready to embrace it.
    Too many times it hurts the listener and they shield themself away from it.
    The whole topic with reincarnation for example, is a very serious matter.
    If only more humans knew about it...


  • @cjko I have to wonder, if we "change" or if we go back to how we originally were meant to be. ;)


  • @Vanessa-Snow haha I wonder how people show/fake who they were in front of people who cares


  • @cjko It's easy if you do not care.
    Especially if you are heartless.


  • @cjko trust me, you do not want to know. Its bizarre, but they bend reality in a way that it becomes your reality. These are a different breed (the kind you want to avoid because they don't really care about you, and that is how they fake it.). I do love to see people "change" but in a soul evolving way. Changing for better is <3 <3 <3 But maybe that's "growing" and not so much "changing". :thinking_face:


  • @Karina-Kara reincarnation <3 i could go on and on when it comes to that topic.


  • @Vanessa-Snow Huh. Actually, i am able to bend reality with my will. A bit.
    It's called "Augmented Reality" or A.R. for short.
    It's strange for me.


  • @Karina-Kara different types of bending reality. Theirs? By use of manipulation. Uncool. Yours? Pretty cool. ;)


  • @Vanessa-Snow You don't see me as a evil daemon? Really?


  • @Karina-Kara should i ? :smirk:


  • @Vanessa-Snow I don't know. Doesn't everybody do that?