• @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @willow you think I'm angry right now? Well I'm not. I'm simply just done with everyone's bullshit. And hell nah I don't want mod anymore. If it weren't for Abby I wouldn't be here anymore. I'm sick of this place. All people ever did here was lie. Especially @ODIN or RAGNAR whatever his name is.

    @ODIN this is the change in attitude that I have seen over the last month or two and what I am talking about. These ill feelings and negativity is what I am seeing all over this site now, and you seem to be at the center of it all.

    It is with much sorrow that I say this, but I am just going to be blunt and simply put it out there. For this damage to be undone and to rebuild morale, staff functions, friendship connections, and for the future of this site, there needs to be a change in leadership.

    I'm sorry, but @ODIN , you need to go. This site needs a new admin.


  • @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @willow you think I'm angry right now? Well I'm not. I'm simply just done with everyone's bullshit. And hell nah I don't want mod anymore. If it weren't for Abby I wouldn't be here anymore. I'm sick of this place. All people ever did here was lie. Especially @ODIN or RAGNAR whatever his name is.

    @ODIN this is the change in attitude that I have seen over the last month or two and what I am talking about. These ill feelings and negativity is what I am seeing all over this site now, and you seem to be at the center of it all.

    It is with much sorrow that I say this, but I am just going to be blunt and simply put it out there. For this damage to be undone and to rebuild moral, staff functions, friendship connections, and for the future of this site, there needs to be a change in leadership.

    I'm sorry, but @ODIN , you need to go. This site needs a new admin.

    Wow.. That's a strong word. All I want is better TWS. Maybe let's see @ODIN how he would solve this. We should not conclude on that.


  • Back away


  • @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @willow you think I'm angry right now? Well I'm not. I'm simply just done with everyone's bullshit. And hell nah I don't want mod anymore. If it weren't for Abby I wouldn't be here anymore. I'm sick of this place. All people ever did here was lie. Especially @ODIN or RAGNAR whatever his name is.

    @ODIN this is the change in attitude that I have seen over the last month or two and what I am talking about. These ill feelings and negativity is what I am seeing all over this site now, and you seem to be at the center of it all.

    It is with much sorrow that I say this, but I am just going to be blunt and simply put it out there. For this damage to be undone and to rebuild moral, staff functions, friendship connections, and for the future of this site, there needs to be a change in leadership.

    I'm sorry, but @ODIN , you need to go. This site needs a new admin.

    Wow.. That's a strong word. All I want is better TWS. Maybe let's see @ODIN how he would solve this. We should not conclude on that.

    @ODIN will still ignore us. Do you think we will see a shift in moral and this negative atmosphere turn back into the positive environment it used to be? Will @ODIN change his methods? That's a lot to ask of someone.

    If we don't see this change in administration, then to me, there is nothing left worth fighting for. The decline of this site will continue. It's already way out of hand.


  • @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @willow you think I'm angry right now? Well I'm not. I'm simply just done with everyone's bullshit. And hell nah I don't want mod anymore. If it weren't for Abby I wouldn't be here anymore. I'm sick of this place. All people ever did here was lie. Especially @ODIN or RAGNAR whatever his name is.

    @ODIN this is the change in attitude that I have seen over the last month or two and what I am talking about. These ill feelings and negativity is what I am seeing all over this site now, and you seem to be at the center of it all.

    It is with much sorrow that I say this, but I am just going to be blunt and simply put it out there. For this damage to be undone and to rebuild moral, staff functions, friendship connections, and for the future of this site, there needs to be a change in leadership.

    I'm sorry, but @ODIN , you need to go. This site needs a new admin.

    Wow.. That's a strong word. All I want is better TWS. Maybe let's see @ODIN how he would solve this. We should not conclude on that.

    @ODIN will still ignore us. Do you think we will see a shift in moral and this negative atmosphere turn back into the positive environment it used to be? Will @ODIN change his methods? That's a lot to ask of someone.

    If we don't see this change in administration, then to me, there is nothing left worth fighting for. The decline of this site will continue. It's already way out of hand.

    People change. I think people learn from their mistakes and people improve. I still believe in second chances and we are not perfect. He's not perfect. Mods are not perfect too...

    If users don't like this admin we all going to kick him out? (as if we really can lol) There's going to be imbalance.


  • @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @willow you think I'm angry right now? Well I'm not. I'm simply just done with everyone's bullshit. And hell nah I don't want mod anymore. If it weren't for Abby I wouldn't be here anymore. I'm sick of this place. All people ever did here was lie. Especially @ODIN or RAGNAR whatever his name is.

    @ODIN this is the change in attitude that I have seen over the last month or two and what I am talking about. These ill feelings and negativity is what I am seeing all over this site now, and you seem to be at the center of it all.

    It is with much sorrow that I say this, but I am just going to be blunt and simply put it out there. For this damage to be undone and to rebuild moral, staff functions, friendship connections, and for the future of this site, there needs to be a change in leadership.

    I'm sorry, but @ODIN , you need to go. This site needs a new admin.

    Wow.. That's a strong word. All I want is better TWS. Maybe let's see @ODIN how he would solve this. We should not conclude on that.

    @ODIN will still ignore us. Do you think we will see a shift in moral and this negative atmosphere turn back into the positive environment it used to be? Will @ODIN change his methods? That's a lot to ask of someone.

    If we don't see this change in administration, then to me, there is nothing left worth fighting for. The decline of this site will continue. It's already way out of hand.

    People change. I think people learn from their mistakes and people improve. I still believe in second chances and we are not perfect. He's not perfect. Mods are not perfect too...

    If users don't like this admin we all going to kick him out? (as if we really can lol) There's going to be imbalance.

    Everything I mentioned is imbalance already. The personal feelings, users and moderators ignored, people feeling like the admin is unfair and personally picking favorites. This whole topic is imbalance and shouldn't have happened. The staff of TWS is not working together because they are not getting leadership.

    I'm done commenting now. I'm tired of this.

  • Global Moderator

    To all:
    god dag,mabuhay,halo halokim greetings from Bela..
    I personally apply as Mod coz I know there is vacancy,again I Am ready is my ultimate weapon that time,ready means to serve..I woke up with a blast of this campaign thing I am not hypocrite at all I really like it,what they did makes me proud not just for myself but for them also that there are interactions from fellow user,but what makes me happy is seeing people just not liking me but love to see if il be a mod means they believe in me,that matters..

    @ODIN Remember this I can approve it so you would be mod,many users ask for it ,even thou they have all the qualities but still the way they behaving its hard to mod then but I believe you will make a good mood..its not that i expect a lot because i know in every application there is flank and a yes,but next time be so wordy..

    • I applied 1st first before u told me this*

    Another thing I directly asked u why im not a mod coz i dont like it to heard from others,and u said Of timezone..as far as i know Currently we have 3 from asia..2 from indian,1from pakistan and both countries have same timezone..I Am from Asia too but Philippines has different timezone..

    To the people,friends,fellow user,followers of mine who believes in me tack sa mycket,salamat and thank u so much it matters alot,words are not enough how u made me even stronger guys..
    To bashers I am not gullible as a person I heard,saw negative impression about me even behind close doors,but again those words cant bring Bela down,instead u made me even better,but it will best if all we weigh things in eqaulity and quality..

    As an individual I am normally quiet because I just reply once and in full content that is my nature..,hence i approach people and people approch thats mutual.

    I am really tired and sick of this..Eversince,I just love to see eqaulity,transparency,camaderie,respect..a healthy tws ambiance ..

    This song is for all the people who are in fight of this quest.. Bela will scream for u,all will be safe here..


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  • @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @willow you think I'm angry right now? Well I'm not. I'm simply just done with everyone's bullshit. And hell nah I don't want mod anymore. If it weren't for Abby I wouldn't be here anymore. I'm sick of this place. All people ever did here was lie. Especially @ODIN or RAGNAR whatever his name is.

    @ODIN this is the change in attitude that I have seen over the last month or two and what I am talking about. These ill feelings and negativity is what I am seeing all over this site now, and you seem to be at the center of it all.

    It is with much sorrow that I say this, but I am just going to be blunt and simply put it out there. For this damage to be undone and to rebuild moral, staff functions, friendship connections, and for the future of this site, there needs to be a change in leadership.

    I'm sorry, but @ODIN , you need to go. This site needs a new admin.

    Wow.. That's a strong word. All I want is better TWS. Maybe let's see @ODIN how he would solve this. We should not conclude on that.

    @ODIN will still ignore us. Do you think we will see a shift in moral and this negative atmosphere turn back into the positive environment it used to be? Will @ODIN change his methods? That's a lot to ask of someone.

    If we don't see this change in administration, then to me, there is nothing left worth fighting for. The decline of this site will continue. It's already way out of hand.

    People change. I think people learn from their mistakes and people improve. I still believe in second chances and we are not perfect. He's not perfect. Mods are not perfect too...

    If users don't like this admin we all going to kick him out? (as if we really can lol) There's going to be imbalance.

    Everything I mentioned is imbalance already. The personal feelings, users and moderators ignored, people feeling like the admin is unfair and personally picking favorites. This whole topic is imbalance and shouldn't have happened. The staff of TWS is not working together because they are not getting leadership.

    I'm done commenting now. I'm tired of this.

    Yes it is now and it'll be worst if people do this all the time.. People won't like to post here if all people posts are this kind of topic. We want enjoyment too.. Aaggrr.. I'm tired too...

    Going to work now. Ciao. 👋🏼


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  • @willow also if it sounds Like you then how'd you get mod?


  • @morf Hell nah. He doesn't need to go. TWS is his now.

  • Music Lovers

    @odin

    Well rules are changed already, when @Willow wanted to unmod her self i couldnt reply her text for a reason. I found her good moderator of all time

    What was the reason Samnas.
    Not “i ddnt respond to you because I didnt know how.”
    Give me a good one. And maybe Ill shut up, maybe.

    who was willing to help the site no matter what. It was hard for me to show her how to unmod her self.

    Level of bitterness towards my cute little generic message “thanks for helping the site grow” : 1000000000000

    But whoever wants to unmod her or himself, i was appointed for a reason. A mod can dm me and i will easly unmod them.

    I dmed you. Twice. The first time I asked how I could be unmodded. It was a message to only you, no group chat with you AND @talkwithstranger. You never answered. Until four days later, I posted a topic mentioning how my ex never responded to my messages even though its his job.
    And then, four days after I sent my initial message, only a few hours after I made a public complaint, did you decide to respond.
    It is a moderation rule that mod information doesnt get leaked. So how the fuck am I supposed to communicate with you if i cant mention issues in public, but you wont answer in pm’s?

    If i am not online then i made my personal account of instagram public, you can text me there instead.

    😂😂😂 talkwithstranger calls itself a social media platform. And yet we need OTHER platforms to get in contact with the site leaders? Ive mentioned it several times these past few months

    We need COMMUNICATION. Until that is improved, no one is going to be happy.
    You need COMMUNICATION to train new mods/ask potential users to be moderator (issue that @mr-h had)
    You need COMMUNICATION to find what users want in features.
    You need COMMUNICATION to explain why users are being modded and others arent
    You need COMMUNICATION so that existing moderators can also enjoy themselves here.

    Maybe it wasnt hint enough when I nagged admins the past two months.🙄


  • @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @odin said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @odin I did that because I trusted you. And you snapped it right in half. All you ever did was lie. I'm sick of being taken for granted.

    I didnt want to tell you that "you cant handle tough situations" right infront of you cuz i took you as my own little brother. You had been making topics over and over when some one pisses you off. Its hard to control emotions sometimes and that is the reason why i got hard time modding you. Not that i ddnt want to, but still i had a thought of you being a mod, everything, every mistake that mods do, is my mistake, and i am the one to be blamed and everything.

    I don't understand this. You wanted to make a moderator knowing this person posts topics out of anger? Tell me again how this is NOT personal and biased?

    Nothing against you @Captain_Rogers , it's just that I am finding major inconsistencies here and rather unprofessional conduct from a person who is supposed to be the leader and set an example of the guidelines and criteria for staff members.

    If I am wrong or you see my views as being skewed, please elaborate and enlighten me. I'm open minded and always willing to listen and learn. @ODIN

    You should read my last posts to understand that one.

    Well to elaborate it, i said a user need to have good reputation, active, closer to other users, and needs to know community rules, which @Captain_Rogers had them all. But he couldnt control his emotions or anger. Amd that is the problem. Any leader who cant control his anger may result to any problem. I mentioned the topics he made out of anger just as examples of what happens when he gets angry.

    Ps. He clarified him self about the topics recently


  • @odin said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @odin said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @odin I did that because I trusted you. And you snapped it right in half. All you ever did was lie. I'm sick of being taken for granted.

    I didnt want to tell you that "you cant handle tough situations" right infront of you cuz i took you as my own little brother. You had been making topics over and over when some one pisses you off. Its hard to control emotions sometimes and that is the reason why i got hard time modding you. Not that i ddnt want to, but still i had a thought of you being a mod, everything, every mistake that mods do, is my mistake, and i am the one to be blamed and everything.

    I don't understand this. You wanted to make a moderator knowing this person posts topics out of anger? Tell me again how this is NOT personal and biased?

    Nothing against you @Captain_Rogers , it's just that I am finding major inconsistencies here and rather unprofessional conduct from a person who is supposed to be the leader and set an example of the guidelines and criteria for staff members.

    If I am wrong or you see my views as being skewed, please elaborate and enlighten me. I'm open minded and always willing to listen and learn. @ODIN

    You should read my last posts to understand that one.

    Well to elaborate it, i said a user need to have good reputation, active, closer to other users, and needs to know community rules, which @Captain_Rogers had them all. But he couldnt control his emotions or anger. Amd that is the problem. Any leader who cant control his anger may result to any problem. I mentioned the topics he made out of anger just as examples of what happens when he gets angry.

    Ps. He clarified him self about the topics recently

    I understand that. But that does not explain why you still wanted to give him a position as moderator. I see this as not following guidelines and you bending the rules. Thank you for at least replying to this, but I hope that you will respond to the other issues that have been voiced in this topic.


  • @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @odin I'm tired with all of this actually.. All of us are tired.. My suggestion would be, make an SOP/Manual/Policy so there would be reference and people won't question it or atleast maybe itll prevent something like this. And also consider the problem that users pointed out and make solutions. Listen to all of their suggestions too if its for the best. We just want better TWS. As I've told you, I feel uncomfortable or unsafe here.. Or rather there are things that's not right.

    Sure, good idea we will make those policies, and we will find good solutions based on users preferencies

    You told me the requirements of being a mod but even mods don't know those. Sad......

    Which mod doesnt know about it?

    so I hope their would be an orientation or guide for mods.. Or maybe their would be assigned partners. For example, senior mod would be assigned to this new mod so that s/he will be guided. Of course other senior mods can guide the new mod too.

    There will be guide for new mods, we will start with @Mr-H

    And on @Bela 's case.. Why did you not tell her from the start that you don't need a Moderator n her timezone? You could have said that so there's no need for her to apply at that time.

    At first i ddnt went through mod lists and their time zones, so when i did i gave her an answer, it was a late response because i dont log in everytime

    Lastly, you haven't replied my last question about users asking for permanent banning. I think there's this "secret" thing.

    Well, i answered your question already, we dont ban users just because they asked for it, there are reason for a ban. And asking for it is not among them. If you dont want to get back, then change password to something you dont know amd logout.

    User: May I request to ban me permanently?

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  • @unmodded-nate said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @odin I dont understand... if @Bela was overlooked because she is in Asia, why did you bring up @G-A name in the meeting of the minds? I am little bad at geography but I was under the impression that Indonesia is in Asia. Additionally, are there not already three mods in Asia as we speak, all with similar time zones? Hell, when Willow and I were still mods you had three mods in the exact same timezone (Judy too). I think location is irrelevant...

    Let me clarify this, when i brought up @G-A name in the meeting i ddnt think of his time zone, thats why i deleted the message after. (You ddnt mention that). I tried mentioning users who are too active and have good rep as well. After knowing he is from asia too i then deleted the message.
    Well as you said you were three on the same tine zone. At the time we modded you, judith and willow, we couldnt find good user on another time zone which forced us to bend the rules. And the site needed more mods.
    So location is relevant, it gets irrelevant when there is no body else on different time zone.

    Not modded friends huh, yet I see @im-a-bae on your signature and profile and likewise on hers (sorry, bae... I like you but this has to be said).

    Just because she is my friend it doesnt mean i modded her for that reason. Go look how active she is and how she is close to friends then you can say it again i do mod only my friends , i respect you brother but you should check user profiles and how they help the site before looking how close i am to them. Am i so close with @Mr-H?? Or @WtfJudith or @Vampire_Queen ? Or even you? Yet i mentioned your names to be moded

    What was that about transparency again? I like you rag but please listen this time and stop shooting yourself in the foot.

    I dont see your point here cuz i clarified everything.


  • @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @SunshineF

    @ODIN has not responded to us once. All we want is for things to be done the right way, according to the rules set for this site.

    The reason why i dont reapond is i dont log in too often, i have my life too, sometimes i get online for a second and log out. I have my stuffs to consider too. But i do respond to posts and dms when i get time.

    I get the feeling that we "users" are not worth his precious time when we are the ones who have the betterment and future of TWS at heart. But that still doesn't explain why he also ignores his very own moderators.

    This is you saying it, did you try messaging me inbox? I made my personal instagram public for this issues, did you try messaging me there? I dont just ignore. Many users tag me, if i dont reapond to your text then message me on my personal account. Its on my profile.

    @ODIN I don't want you to feel like I am attacking you in any way. That's not my intent at all. But all I have seen from you is that you take things very personally and also make decisions based on your personal feelings. I mean, look at this. You are the center of this drama right now. This is a display of pettiness and clique like behavior in my opinion.

    I do accept that i made mistakes of not guiding new users on how to become a mod. And i know i did hurt users feelings when they choosed @Bela yet i ddnt choose her, and i know i made mistake of not clarifying this from.the start. I will make it official on requements on becoming a mod. I am sorry for that everyone.
    I dont see how i became a centre of this cuz there is nothing personal, i did clarified about the current mods i choosed and why i ddnt chose bela.

    You recite the guidelines/criteria for moderators but that is not only redundant, but you are also contradicting those very guidelines by basing your actions on your personal feelings. This has spread a lot of negativity throughout this site, users and staff included.

    There is no personal feelings as i said, we made the choice, and all mods had agreed on choosing @im-a-bae as a new mod, and @Mr-H , its not something that i just comeup with, plus i am not the one who mentioned her, i wanted to but she was already mentioned by other mods, all i did was making sure if she deserves the position, you can ask @Global-Moderators if i am lying here

    @ODIN under your lead, look at everything that has happened. The terms that come to mind are tyranny, corruption, unmodding, pettiness, immaturity, cliques, biased, unfair, and the list goes on. This isn't just me saying this, this is what I have heard from users and moderators alike.

    Unmodding problem was there for long time. And all those problems, the only thing that makes this as the centre of drama is not choosing @bela as new mod, if we are clear, and i did mentioned the reason already. You pointed out all the problems i do have and i will fix them asap.
    I ddnt help willow to get unmodded cuz i ddnt want her to unmod her self, and i told her the reason.
    I dont see what kind of immaturity you are talking about, or cliqueness or pettiness.

    3-4 months ago, this site was fantastic! It was growing and blossoming at a very healthy rate. This site was functioning and running like a well oiled machine. What has happened? Look at the drama and division now. There are major damages that appear to be making this site weaken to the point of crumbling internally.

    We will fix that, and the moding process, we will make everything clear to everybody, i guess it will help.

    I want this site to be great like that again and continue to grow without all these uncontrolled variables in the governing and all this negativity. Something has to change.

    Will you reply to me and these issues now @ODIN ? Or is this not worth your time and consideration? Don't you care about the decline in morale on this site?

    I think i replied to ypur questions, i do care about the site.
    Thank you.


  • @morf said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @captain_rogers said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @willow you think I'm angry right now? Well I'm not. I'm simply just done with everyone's bullshit. And hell nah I don't want mod anymore. If it weren't for Abby I wouldn't be here anymore. I'm sick of this place. All people ever did here was lie. Especially @ODIN or RAGNAR whatever his name is.

    @ODIN this is the change in attitude that I have seen over the last month or two and what I am talking about. These ill feelings and negativity is what I am seeing all over this site now, and you seem to be at the center of it all.

    It is with much sorrow that I say this, but I am just going to be blunt and simply put it out there. For this damage to be undone and to rebuild morale, staff functions, friendship connections, and for the future of this site, there needs to be a change in leadership.

    I'm sorry, but @ODIN , you need to go. This site needs a new admin.

    Can you clarify this, how am i the centre of it? I guess you should go after my replies and re-read them. It looks like you dont care about the replies i made, all you do is repeating over and over i am the centre of all this.

    If it is about bela, i did clarified we had mods at asia already, also just to let it clear, it is hard to understand her at once, you need to re-read what she wrote. Users need to be helped by someone who can clarify everything

    If you keep saying i do choose based on personal wamts then go ask @Global-Moderators who mentioned @im-a-bae and mrh

    Thank you


  • @sunshinef said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:

    @morf well, he's now replying. I read some 👇🏼. But that's because (most probably) @talkwithstranger asked him to.

    You can say that, but no body forces me to reply, and i do reply to some posts as well and dm's. If i dont then my personal instagram is open. Or esle it is night in my time so ill be probably sleeping.