@AllAboutGay said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:
@A-Former-User said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:
Let me prove to you that islam is not a religion of peace:
Let me see you are able or not
Part 1. Violent verses:
"Fight against those who do not obey Allah and do not believe in Allah or the Last Day and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and His messenger even though they are of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya With willing submissions and feel themselves subdued" surah 9 verse 29
“ O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise. Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”(Quran 9:28-29)
This is from the 9th "chapter" of the quran which begins with:
“[This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists. So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers.
And [it is] an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah is disassociated from the disbelievers, and [so is] His Messenger. So if you repent, that is best for you; but if you turn away - then know that you will not cause failure to Allah . And give tidings to those who disbelieve of a painful punishment.And [it is] an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah is disassociated from the disbelievers, and [so is] His Messenger. So if you repent, that is best for you; but if you turn away - then know that you will not cause failure to Allah . And give tidings to those who disbelieve of a painful punishment.Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].”(Quran 9:1-4)
I am not so sure whether the verse u mentioned is universal or not but it is logical to assume that the verse was applicable for only a particular period of time but further research is necessary...
Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe! (9:13)
Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers, (9:14)
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29)
But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper. (9:88)
Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. (9:111)
O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him. (9:123)
Jizya tax was taken by various Muslim empires for example -ottoman and Mughal empires. There were four reasons for imposing this tax on non-mulsims-
- For their security
- For not converting to Islam
- For inclining to their own religions faith instead of Islam
- For punishing Dhimmis' unbelief
It was a source of Islamic revenue till 20th century and yes it was universal (Europe and Asia are proof of it)
ISIS and Pakistani Taliban have revived this tax again. So no this tax was not taken for a particular time.
Under a treaty of surrender, the non-Muslim is given protection and called a dhimmi. This treaty necessarily provides for the surrender of the non-Muslims with all duties deriving from it, in particular the payment of tribute, i.e. the fixed polltax (jizya) and the land tax (kharaj).... The non-Muslims must wear distinctive clothing and must mark their houses, which must not be built higher than those of the Muslims, by distinctive signs; they must not ride horses or bear arms, and they must yield the way to Muslims; they must not scandalize the Muslims by openly performing their worship or their distinctive customs, such as drinking wine; they must not build new churches, synagogues, and hermitages; they must pay the polltax under humiliating conditions. It goes without saying that they are excluded from the specifically Muslim privileges.
Firuz Shah also bribed a vast number of Hindus into embracing Islam, by exempting those who converted from the jizya or polltax, which was otherwise rigorously enforced, even on the Brahmans.
Firuz Shah, when due allowance is made for his surroundings and education, could not have escaped from the theory and practice of religious intolerance. It was not possible for him to rise, as Akbar did, to the conception that the ruler of Hindustan should cherish all his subjects alike, whether Muslim or Hindu, and allow every man absolute freedom, not only of conscience but of public worship. The Muslims of the fourteenth century were still dominated by the ideas current in the early days of Islam, and were convinced that the tolerance of idolatry was a sin.
“They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” surah 2 verse 217
“They ask you about the sacred month - about fighting therein. Say, "Fighting therein is great [sin], but averting [people] from the way of Allah and disbelief in Him and [preventing access to] al-Masjid al-Haram and the expulsion of its people therefrom are greater [evil] in the sight of Allah . And fitnah is greater than killing." And they will continue to fight you until they turn you back from your religion if they are able. And whoever of you reverts from his religion [to disbelief] and dies while he is a disbeliever - for those, their deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and those are the companions of the Fire, they will abide therein eternally.”(quran 2:217)
this verse has nothing to do with violence and it doesn’t necessarily say to attack
Let me give you violent verses before 2:217
But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein (2:39)
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. (2:190)
And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. (2:191)
But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (2:192)
And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. But if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression. (2:193)
Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. (2:216)
After 2:217-
Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things. (2:244)
Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever). (2:257)
I think you did never read Quranic words. Fitna has multiple meanings- to burn, to seduce, to allure ,to tempt etc. It is clearly written to fight them for allah until they do not get ceased. And 2:217 itself is saying about burning non-believers into fire. Other meanings could make sound but 2:217 is definitely used for burn.
“Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” Surah 2 verse 191
“Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers. And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.”(Quran 2:190-193)
Again this verse was for a particular time period and not universal and it was against only those particular enemy soldiers/fighters.
This verse has nothing to do with soldiers. It has the best to do with non-believers.
But those who reject Faith and belie Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein (2:39)
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. (2:190)
“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” Surah 47 verse 4 (smite means cut, so this means that when you will meet the unbelievers, cut their necks)
“So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.”(Quran 47:4)
this is only against enemy soldiers in battle
more correct- against enemy soldiers who does not believe in allah. But this same rule does not attribute to soldiers who are believers.
“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” Surah 8 verse 12
“[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”(quran 8:12)
this is just an instruction by the god only to angels and nothing to do with human violence
An instruction which is used for terrorizing to non-believers. It later supported Muslims to terrorizing non-believers. Our history is the proof of it. These are words of Allah, who is monitorizing them 24/7.
“Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” surah 9 verse 123
“It was not [proper] for the people of Madinah and those surrounding them of the bedouins that they remain behind after [the departure of] the Messenger of Allah or that they prefer themselves over his self. That is because they are not afflicted by thirst or fatigue or hunger in the cause of Allah, nor do they tread on any ground that enrages the disbelievers, nor do they inflict upon an enemy any infliction but that is registered for them as a righteous deed. Indeed, Allah does not allow to be lost the reward of the doers of good.
And it is not for the believers to go forth [to battle] all at once. For there should separate from every division of them a group [remaining] to obtain understanding in the religion and warn their people when they return to them that they might be cautious.
O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous.”(Quran 9:120-123)
again, according to previous verses, this verse was only for that particular period and not universal. So no need for disbelievers to worry
I have written chapter 9th verses for you. Scroll up.
Statistics will give you more precise answer https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/
“Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow Him are merciful to one another but harsh to the disbeliever.” Surah 48 verse 29
“Certainly has Allah showed to His Messenger the vision in truth. You will surely enter al-Masjid al-Haram, if Allah wills, in safety, with your heads shaved and [hair] shortened, not fearing [anyone]. He knew what you did not know and has arranged before that a conquest near [at hand].”(Quran 48:27)
“Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.”(Quran 48:28)
I am really confused if this verse is universal or not and I still don’t have opinion about this verse
And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire! (48:13)
Just after 48:28, this verse came -
Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. (48:29)
This verse is definitely applicable to all non-believers.
“They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, don’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”Surah 4 verse 89
“They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.
Except for those who take refuge with a people between yourselves and whom is a treaty or those who come to you, their hearts strained at [the prospect of] fighting you or fighting their own people. And if Allah had willed, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them.”(Quran:89-90)
the complete verse says to fight and kill only the ones who fight you. I am also assuming that it was for a particular period of time but I am not so sure in this case.
But those who disobey Allah and His Messenger and transgress His limits will be admitted to a Fire, to abide therein: And they shall have a humiliating punishment. (4:14)
Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value). (4:74)
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. (4:76)
They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;- (4:89)
All above verses are saying atheists are friends of satan and ordering muslims to fight with them.
Part 2. Verses against equality
VERSE IN FAVOUR OF EQUALITY THAT OTHER RELIGIONS DONT HAVE:
Prophet Muhammad(sm) said ,“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab, also a white has no superiority over black nor does a black have any superiority over white except by Taqwa(virtuous deeds and piety).”(Sahih Muslim)
VERSES IN FAVOUR OF INEUALITY
Witness in 2:1 for women:men
O you who have believed, when you contract a debt for a specified term, write it down. And let a scribe write [it] between you in justice. Let no scribe refuse to write as Allah has taught him. So let him write and let the one who has the obligation dictate. And let him fear Allah, his Lord, and not leave anything out of it. But if the one who has the obligation is of limited understanding or weak or unable to dictate himself, then let his guardian dictate in justice. And bring to witness two witnesses from among your men. And if there are not two men [available], then a man and two women from those whom you accept as witnesses - so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her. And let not the witnesses refuse when they are called upon. And do not be [too] weary to write it, whether it is small or large, for its [specified] term. That is more just in the sight of Allah and stronger as evidence and more likely to prevent doubt between you, except when it is an immediate transaction which you conduct among yourselves. For [then] there is no blame upon you if you do not write it. And take witnesses when you conclude a contract. Let no scribe be harmed or any witness. For if you do so, indeed, it is [grave] disobedience in you. And fear Allah . And Allah teaches you. And Allah is Knowing of all things. (2:282)
Divorced women remain in waiting for three periods, and it is not lawful for them to conceal what Allah has created in their wombs if they believe in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have more right to take them back in this [period] if they want reconciliation. And due to the wives is similar to what is expected of them, according to what is reasonable. But the men have a degree over them [in responsibility and authority]. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise. (2:228)
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 54 Hadith 460
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."
As you can see, angels will curse a woman if she refuses her husband in bed. And in another hadith we find that Allah himself backs up this female shaming:
Sahih Muslim Book 8 Hadith 3367
Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) as saying: By Him in Whose Hand is my life, when a man calls his wife to his bed, and she does not respond, the One Who is in the heaven is displeased with her until he (her husband) is pleased with her.
So both Allah and the angels will take the side of the husband in this matter.
Now a Muslim might say at this point, something like this:
“In marriage a husband and wife must not neglect each other’s needs in bed, because this will lead to frustration and ultimately to adultery. Therefore, in his wisdom Allah commands that the wife doesn’t refuse a man calling her to bed.”
Obviousely, there is some truth to this statement. But it should go for both sexes. However there is no hadith or Quran verse to be found, saying the exact same about men having to respond to their wives call. So: inequality.
Also, the hadith clearly mentions that this applies to every single time the woman is not in the mood for sex. I can understand there is a problem when a woman structurally refuses to come to bed with her husband. But this hadith talks about any time.
1. These hadith clearly demonstrate that a woman must have sex when she does not want to. I leave it to the readers to see if that would constitute rape, since she is forced into it with the fear of Allah.
2. These scriptural statements are not found anywhere in the opposite direction. The man is told in Islam to treat his wife well, keep her satisfied and other general non-specific rules. But nowhere does Muhammad say that Allah and the angels curse a man if he neglects his wife in this department. This is inequality.
3. In the Bible, we see that Paul speaks of complete and perfect unity and equality concerning the same issue. He says, in 1 Corinthians 7:4: “The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.” This is a round circle, an even scale.
"[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said,
'This is the deficiency in her intelligence." (Bukhari 6:301)
A'isha said [to Muhammad]: '
You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'
These are the words of Muhammad's favorite wife, complaining of the role assigned to women under Islam. (Muslim 4:1039)
You had never read all religions. :P