What is your imagination about god?

[vahid 0]

@damncuteguy god exists",,,,,,,i will say u with reasons another time im tired now

[TheStrangest]

@pinkfloyd said in What is you imagination about god?:

@thestrangest yes i am ok dont worry about me
but i want to tell you something that every body sees everything the way he wants and denies the other opinions

Uhm sure, if you're saying nothing would convince me that I'm wrong then that's not true, evidence and/or a good argument for the existence of a god would but those don't exist

you linked videos for why isnt there a god and how we are all fish

Dafuq? No i didn't. Wtf are you talking about? Did you even watch the videos? Yeah we evolved from fish but nowhere do those videos mention that, Look dude those 3 videos i linked off at the end had 99% nothing to do with this debate. I just thought they m8 help you IN LIFE, you are getting me really angry with this because i was just trying to be nice with those videos

and you will find other videos saying other things like scientific proofs saying god is there but you just ignore these

Because those are all BULLSHIT, those aren't PEER REVIEWED, all of those videos are full of misrepresentation of scientific knowledge or blatant lies, You understand that scientists believe in evidence right? So if there was scientific evidence of god all scientists would become believers overnight? But as ut stands around 80% of astrophysicists and biologists are atheist (you know the onlu domains of science that study origins) and 60% of all scientists are atheist, you find me 1 video that actually has good scientific evidence of good and I'll fly to your house (when i get the chance to) and suck your dick

and my friend you cant deny the presence of something if you cant see it

Uhm? What? Yeah i can deny the presenceof anything if there's no proof for it? There are other ways to prove something than to show it to somebody by the way, I can't see air but fill up a balloon and voilà you've proved that it exists

if you say all the holy books are made up

I am saying that

then how did they predict things happening in our current world

They don't but even if they happened to loosely predict something you'd still have to give good arguments for why a god had to have given these predictions not just a man, because last time i checked there's something called superforecasting, humans do it, and it's much more accurate than holy books A.K.A. fiction books

and i am going to tell you again how can a universe this big and so detailed be uncontrolled and yet create every thing so precisely measured and controlled

Uhm, we humans love to notice patterns where there are none, for all the order that you see where you are in the universe there's just as much disorder elsewhere, the universe has been a mess for most of the 13.8 billion years it has existed

why is earth accurately this far from earth?

Uhm? Earth is 0cm away from earth last time i checked. Oh you mean the sun?
1st "WHY" is not a question you get to ask here, "WHY" means that this thing must have happened for a reason which means that a conscious being that can think must have caused it and ofcourse i do not agree with that, if you ask "how" welp it's not that complicated we exist because we're in the goldilock zone, not the other way around, there are millions of other planets in the universe who are in goldilock zones and can sustain life, it's not that rare and there most likely is another place in the universe where there is life, the point is that this isn't impossible without a god, proof? It happened without a god, we know how it happened from the big bang to the assembly of gaz clouds to the assemby of stars, there are some pieces missing but that doesn't mean you can just jam your needless god in as a made up answer

and if we were fish why didnt all the fish become monkeys and all monkeys become humans
why are there still fish and monkeys?

ARE YOU... FUCKING RETARDED

Do you even know what evolution is? We didn't evolve FROM the fish you see around today, us and fish and apes all share COMMON ANCESTORS. Pick up a science notebook

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and about science
you cant explain everything by science

Yeah there are also philosophical qnd deductive reasoning questions but the things in the natural world that you can't explain with science... you can't explain with any other method. Scienceis the single most reliable method to find out the truth

if you were in a place you dont know and there are two rooms with their doors open, one with light off and the other on

you will enter the on with its light on as you would think its more secure or something
how can this be explained scientificly?

Yeah that's common sense, logic, you know that going into a room where you can SEE danger is much safer, that's just logic which is a branch of epistemology which is a branch of philosophy, 100% of all questions i know of are either scientific or philosophical

and as you said that living this life has a purpose anyways even there wasnt a god maybe by gathering money or by being someone important in your community

I didn't say that it's necessarily that way, but yeah you can give yourself purpose by doing that

but how does this all matter if you are going to die eventually?

Having 1 life is infinitely more meaningful than having an endless one. If this life is so insignificant compared to the next one then it is much less meaningful than it being your only shot. Can't you find a reason to enjoy life as it is on this planet? You can? Voilà that's a reason to live yourself, does it matter if you die? Uncontrollable immortality sounds like hell, you'd surely want to die at some point

billions wont stop you from dying

Who cares

how can something be so carved and perfect and you say its just there nobody created it or controlled it

Uhm, because it isn't perfect, it isn't perfect for life, 99% of the species that have ever existed are gone and even if it was perfect. evolution creates creatures that are perfect for their environment from nothing, what's your point?

i am not here to guide you to the right way or convince you anything and i hope you goodluck

Dude you didn't watch any if the videos i sent you, you're a lost cause i wouldn't care anyways

and i am not nearly capable or ready to make an end to this conversation but i surely know that science isnt the only guide i take in my decisions and the way i think

Yeah me neither i also follow secular philosophy, you follow what i presume to be a sexist, homophobic, violent, slavery supporting religion but that's your choice

and excuse my bad english

No problem i can still understand you

Dude i seriously don't want you to reply to this, if you do I'm seriously just going to ignore you unless you actually reply to shit that hasn't been addressed in a (non-optional) video i sent or a paragraph i wrote for you

[pinkfloyd]

@thestrangest just be more respectful if you know what respect is
i didnt get this from my head but from the video you sent that our ancestors 185 m years ago were fish
the one with the title there is no first human
well i will be more patient you
how was the fish created?

[TheStrangest]

@pinkfloyd said in What is you imagination about god?:

@thestrangest just be more respectful if you know what respect is

I didn't disrespect you in any undeserved place and to certain extent you have to take into consideration the effort I've put in for you to just ask me to repeat myself too

i didnt get this from my head but from the video you sent that our ancestors 185 m years ago were fish

Yes the thing about the fish is truebut a LOT longee than 185 million years, wtf no type of evolution can happen so quickly.

WHICH VIDEO DID YOU GET THIS FROM? You got that from your head? I chose 3 videos that had nothing with what we were talking about because i thought they might help you but instead you didn't watch them and are giving excuses and saying they're just against what you believe so you don't feel like watching them, i don't care

the one with the title there is no first human

Ohhhhhh that one, that's not part of those 3, welp yeah there's nothing wrong with that video, wait did i link that video to you or someone else? WAIT I FUCKING LINKED THAT TO SOMEONE ELSE

well i will be more patient you
YOU being patient WITH ..... ME? Ironic

how was the fish created?
The 1st living being to exist was a single cellular life that then reproduced and started the tree of evolution and from it we get all life we gave today

Visually representation

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This video is really fun so i really recommend it

[pinkfloyd]

@thestrangest and how was this single cellular creature made?
or did just exist?

[pinkfloyd]

@thestrangest the video says life began in a hot spring
did water make the single cellular life?

[TheStrangest]

@pinkfloyd said in What is you imagination about god?:

@thestrangest the video says life began in a hot spring
did water make the single cellular life?

What are you getting at? Are you gonna say it was god? That doesn't work, unless you have proof something is right you can't make up answers Let's say we had NO explanations for any of this that doesn't make you right in saying it was the result of god

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Welp we've already created the basic components under simulated natural factors so we know many ways it could have been created but we're not sure which one it is, here are 2 of them:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17987-how-life-evolved-10-steps-to-the-first-cells/

The 2nd one involves water

[Zack Williamson]

@vahid-0 said in What is you imagination about god?:

@damncuteguy god exists",,,,,,,i will say u with reasons another time im tired now

I was also tired because of my day activities this is why I typed some words incorrectly but I just edited them. Our ancestors made great persons to god. It has been found again and again in the history of human thought that every reasoned attempt to avoid philosophy lands a thinker into a new kind of philosophy. I would give you an example of 'Buddha'- Although he was an atheist but he was averse to theoretical speculation, he never wanted to accept nor did he encourage his followers to accept, any course of action without reasoning and criticism. He was extremely rational and contemplative, and wanted to penetrate into the every roots of human existence, and tried to supply the full justification of the ethical principle he followed and taught. His teaching contained the germs of positivism, empiricism and phenomenalism. Because of these reasons his followers divided themselves in two religious schools and then sub-schools. And one of his school 'Mahayana' is the worshipper of God and considers 'Buddha' as a God.

[pinkfloyd]

@thestrangest i really dont know how you re not sure yet and you are strongly convinced
maybe you shoulf wait till you be sure then come argue with people
but ok i ll go to the end with you
if this was true did the scientists create a single cellular creature tipical and just like the one made million of years ago?
the video something like" RNA and iron created the bases for a single cellular living creature"
if that means they "created" it fully functional why didnt they "create" another creatures?
why didnt they maked a dog maybe if they discovered the secret of life
and if they didnt know how to make a single cellular creature then this theory is just wrong because as they failed redoing what was done m of years ago in nature in coincidence and without any kind of intervation
yet they tried doing it again in a fully functioning laboratory and they failed
and does that mean nature still produce single mullecular life till this day from the interacting of minerals in the ocean?
and i would like to talk about another thing please
do you believe in the presence of a soul?

[notaboyorgirl]

I don't imagine the things i can not see. I just feel.

[vahid 0]

@notaboyorgirl good feeling---you can see with your heart--

[vahid 0]

@damncuteguy dude pls say in one simple sentence that why you dont believe in god?

[vahid 0]

@pinkfloyd i believe it deeply-----

[Luv2Lik]

GoD == Group of Developers
and like todays inventors of robots
they are competing against each other just for the hell of it .......
tho why they had to invent mother in laws I dont know ..... :white_frowning_face:

[vahid 0]

@luv2lik god is single ---single----
Group of god==no god

[BloodDrunk]

@luv2lik kys to death

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@vahid-0 said in What is you imagination about god?:

@luv2lik god is single ---single----
Group of god==no god

Wrong.

[vahid 0]

@ส god is single--do u agree with this ?

[vahid 0]

@sup why wrong?

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@vahid-0
In your religion, it might be that way. A single god for all of you.
But in mine, we have thousands of them.

PS - I know nothing about gods...i was just correcting you.