@DAD_ said in Fact check with Pet: Overpopulation:
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The dangerous thing isn't overpopulation,
But the over-exploitation by the limited population.
There will surely be a stagnation point in the population growth curve, as the technology increases, so does the medical facilities. And hence, the infant mortality rate decreases, and people in the under-developed states, reproduce less.
Now to the topic;
The biggest flaw of statistics is that it takes everything to be ideal.
All the numbers you have, is based upon this assumption that everything will be fine; No natural disasters, No all out wars.
:joy: funny that you should mention those two things. Because you know, natural disasters and all out wars will have one effect: they will decrease the population drastically. So, as cold as this might sound, but these things would actually make it easier even.
So what about food? We use 77% of what we produce in agriculture to feed our lifestock. 67% of what we eat comes from plants, 30% from meat. Keep these numbers in mind for we are able to feed 7.5 billion people right now!
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/12/third-of-earths-soil-acutely-degraded-due-to-agriculture-study
This study tells that, 24 Billion tonnes of arable land, goes to waste each year due to intensive farming. In the words of The UN Head;
So, if we are able to feed (in an ideal situation that is) 7.5 billion people each year now, I doubt that will be the case in the upcoming years.
Yeah, that is one of the problems that needs solving. However I don't actually know how much 24 billion tonnes are, and I don't quite understand even why this would be measured in tonnes in the first place instead of square kilometers. Maybe to make the number sound bigger?
Another study by the UN states that;
https://www.unccd.int/news-events/land-degradation-growing-threat-global-security
But yeah, this is one of the things where we should put our research resources to. You know what my take on those problems is? The best investment, the UN and anybody could ever make in any country is in its youth. Education people. That is where most of the money should go, so that soon some genius arises to find a technique to make that land arable again.
Now to the 30% Meat part;
Though, it constitutes to only a menial amount of our diet, but the negative and destructive impact it has on the environment is absolutely devastating.
Yes, it acctually amounts to 14.5 % of our CO² emissions. Ergo reducing global meat consumption might actually be a good idea in many ways :grin:
http://www.fao.org/3/a-a0701e.pdf (the UN report)
Overpopulation is a myth.
Indeed it is. But the impact the limited stagnated population will have on the planet's resources will be far worse.
But don't be misslead. The actual problem is of course how to distribute all of the earths resources. And I have shown you only one example: food. There are others, but those too can be solved.
Indeed it is.
But, let's not forget the elephant in the room here, which I have already mentioned in my above point.
Even if the number of people isn't the problem, but the way those people act.
The reckless way, in which they destroy and exploit the resources.
That my friend, will be our doom.
It might be the doom of our global society, but people have lived for hundreds of thousands of years without oil and the like.
But I do want to question wether it will actually be our doom too. I'll continue to make topics like this, to tackle the different questions around this issue. But let me just say this:
Current estimates say that oil in traditional sources will run out in 150 years. However there is a huge amount of oil bound in sand. Currently acquireing this oil is uneconomical. But the moment, that the other way is no longer viable, it will become economical pretty fast. Not saying we should continue to increase our oil consumption though...
Another thing to note is: We know that our actions pose a problem for the planet since about 50 years. In this timeframe
- a small car's gasoline consumtion went down from 20 liters / 100 km to 5 liters (my car actually drinks 5 liters!).
- electric cars were invented. And they will soon be everywhere, because they are soooooooooooooo much fun to drive. Can you hear my longing? I drove a BMW i3 back when I studied (the school had a shared one, it was an advertising campaign). 180 PS (horsepower) right when you hit the pedal. :drooling_face: :drooling_face: :drooling_face:. And somebody took me on a ride with a 400 PS Tesla. :drooling_face: x10. so anyways...
- in germany there are quite a few houses that are self sufficient
- on a hot summer day, all of germanies energy consumption comes from renewable resources
- other countries also do things. Especially china has discovered that caring for the environment is a good thing... Long ways to go, but still.
So. Point is. We are getting there... I'm not so sure we are doomed...