does god really exists??



  • Let's talk axioms first. Anything in this world is created by something.
    2 is 1 and 1, creature is created, everything must be created by something.
    And where does it end? it means that a divine entity must of done that.

    Now there is a problam, what if you say this world is created by collision of astroids wich happened because soller system .. big bang .. science ..
    and basically like that on & on...
    it is problamatic too. => impossible.
    if you think that way, then it should have kept same forever, meaning why does the time the existance stopped and became, this...? if so, it should have continued eternity (eternity-entity) (like infinity in numbers, basically there is no final number which concludes their sum... means there is not stop, like this world should of been).

    thoughts??

    Bonus Q.
    why would a 'divine creature' did it any way... he doesnt get anything, because he cant get, he is beyond the need for anything, he has nature of axioms unlike us. (we need food and water whereas hes not).



  • everything must be created by something.
    And where does it end? it means that a divine entity must of done that.

    Totally wrong. If everything is created by something, that divine entity needs a creator. What makes it divine then? Why would you worship that thing and not the thing that created it?

    Now there is a problam, what if you say this world is created by collision of astroids wich happened because soller system .. big bang .. science .. (...) if you think that way, then it should have kept same forever, meaning why does the time the existance stopped and became, this...?

    It took millions of years, but that's not forever, or an infinite amount of time. It hasn't stopped happening either, many small meteorites fall into the Earth every day. One of them was so big that it destroyed the athmosphere's chemical composition and all dinosaurs choked to death. After millions of years, the Moon will fall into the Earth too, if there isn't an asteroid coming by that prevents it.

    why would a 'divine creature' did it any way... he doesnt get anything, because he cant get, he is beyond the need for anything, he has nature of axioms unlike us. (we need food and water whereas hes not).

    You're right, if a divine creature with the power to create absolutely anything created a world in which there are countless people suffering, that creature is an asshole and a bastard. We should kill it.



  • Yes God is real and I am sorry for anyone who doesn’t know or doesn’t understand or just does not believe



  • @ErYuriReshulon you misunderstood, hes divine because he can, and did, create this world. this is a solution to the question, the problem - the creation of a creation of a creation... when does it stops..? the' divine creature. think of it as an answer not as another example.
    and why hes divine. because hes unnatural, he doesnt contain the same principles of the living as we or any kind of thing in this world. unnatural.



  • @ErYuriReshulon "It took millions of years, but that's not forever, or an infinite amount of time."
    it's becuase you stopped 'the timeline' with the meteors... and what made the meteors? and so on...



  • @bny34

    and why hes divine. because hes unnatural, he doesnt contain the same principles of the living as we or any kind of thing in this world. unnatural.

    Do you realize this renders invalid the logic you used earlier? If you claim everything needs a creator, except for one specific being that doesn't need a creator, which doesn't need a creator simply because you're putting it doesn't need any creator in its definition, then nothing needs a creator. Either everything needs a creator or nothing does.

    If you claim this point may be ended by simply defining the terms of the problem in a way that benefits the conclusion you wanted to reach, that's called teleological reasoning, which is something the human brain does when it's desperately trying to defend its preconceived ideas but it doesn't actually help in finding truthful answers.

    it's becuase you stopped 'the timeline' with the meteors... and what made the meteors? and so on...

    I think you have problems to understand this simply because you haven't studied it in its entirety. Reading about it by yourself is going to help you more than debating it with some stranger, if you're interested you may start here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System

    If you want to keep asking "what caused that" to every point, you'll reach the Big Bang. The most well defended theory among scientists is that Big Bang happened because it was impossible for it to not to happen, the same way it's impossible for an object unable to fly to scape from Earth's gravity without any external help. Stephen Hawking's book "The Great Design" will help you understand this without having to get a Physics degree 🙂









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