What is your imagination about god?

[TheStrangest]

@mamababa12 said in What is you imagination about god?:

Well im a Christian, and i do believe that God exists from many reasons:

Oh here we fucking go

1. Where did the Bible come from?

Men wrote it

from many writters from ancient history and they wrote from ancient history the true history from Adam and Eve at Jesus.

What the fuck are you talking about? There is 0 historical proof of god and we KNOW for sure Adam and Eve didn't exist because man evolved from earlier species

2. When i read the Bible and pray i feel that God is with us in every second watching us and putting us temptations and tryes, why?

Because your brain unforces your delusions, all religious people even from religions you believe to be false feel these things

Because we need to learn what is Sin and what is not.

Sin is a made up concept

There is a saying: Sin is pleasure for a season, but later it will lead you to Death. ( I think you understand what ''death'' means)

No, this saying is retarded. Most people have empathy and they feel bad doing bad things if that is what you mean by sin

3. Have you ever had a memory that happened a miracle in it?

Your English sucks and i don't even know what you're talking about

or something that was supernatural? well I had, i`ll admit that when i was sick in the other hour i was healed by Jesus even though i was feeling bad and sick the other hour i could go with my sister at Zoo and i still felt a little bad, in that day i was so suprised and thanked Jesus for healing me.

You were sick and you got better, and that's proof of an indivisible sky daddy you call jesus, even though we know anti-heroes exist and those are what make you get better....

Watch that video till you understand it

4. I think everybody knows the acceptance of Jesus in ur heart, when i was 11 years old i accepted Jesus as my Savior.

Dude you're 12, what are you talking about. Jesus didn't exist historically as far as we know and more than that even if he did there's no fucking reason to believe he gor resurrected from the dead, what a bunch of bull crap

And i felt that a door was open in my heart that was with sin, which he cleansed the sins that i've done.

Uhm sure, are you sure you're not schizophrenic?

5. My imagination of God? Well it doesnt matter how God's appearance is as long as we believe in Him

I think the opposite is true, you should never believe in god

i admit that im not on God's path sometimes but He made us our children from the proof that He gave his only Son Jesus for us,so that He should be the sacrifice for us, which we never deserved this, even in an thousand years
1st there's no good reason to believe god or a literal jesus ever existed

2nd

and another gift: God gave us the decision to decide our life
The Good path? or the Bad path? You Decide How You Live.

Free will can't exist with or without god

Free will is

"having the ability to choose from multiple choices"

Why i think it doesn't exist in a universe with a god:

God is omniscient therefore he knows everything, he knew everything you're going to do in your life, in other words there is a specefic determined signature set of chronological actions that you have to do in your life otherwise god wouldn't be omniscient and since in that case all your options are predestined you can never have more than 1 choice at any specefic moment in life meaning you don't have free will

Why i think it doesn't exist in a universe with no god:

From a physics point of view there is cause and effect therefore the past determines the future and you only have 1 specific chronology of actions that you follow therefore you don't have the ability to choose from multiple choices

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Yeah and harry potter said "give me that wand", does that mean magic wands are real? Quoting the bible isn't going to get you anywhere because there's no reason to believe anything in the bible is true

[TheStrangest]

@vahid-0 said in What is you imagination about god?:

@thestrangest dude,god bless u and me...we dont understand each other,,,,,,
i fell in love with someone in past just god helped me and gave me the calm,,,do u believe in love?who has created love?

I already answered that here on this reply to YOU

Just read what I've written already and stop asking me questions, I'm not going to answer you anyways

[TheStrangest]

@thestrangest said in What is you imagination about god?:

@pinkfloyd you ok there m8?

I know you're watching

[TheStrangest]

@vahid-0 said in What is you imagination about god?:

@thestrangest when u have no answer pls be quite

I answered your question here (just click on "here") dumbass you just didn't read it

[TheStrangest]

@pinkfloyd said in What is you imagination about god?:

@thestrangest yes i am ok dont worry about me
but i want to tell you something that every body sees everything the way he wants and denies the other opinions

Uhm sure, if you're saying nothing would convince me that I'm wrong then that's not true, evidence and/or a good argument for the existence of a god would but those don't exist

you linked videos for why isnt there a god and how we are all fish

Dafuq? No i didn't. Wtf are you talking about? Did you even watch the videos? Yeah we evolved from fish but nowhere do those videos mention that, Look dude those 3 videos i linked off at the end had 99% nothing to do with this debate. I just thought they m8 help you IN LIFE, you are getting me really angry with this because i was just trying to be nice with those videos

and you will find other videos saying other things like scientific proofs saying god is there but you just ignore these

Because those are all BULLSHIT, those aren't PEER REVIEWED, all of those videos are full of misrepresentation of scientific knowledge or blatant lies, You understand that scientists believe in evidence right? So if there was scientific evidence of god all scientists would become believers overnight? But as ut stands around 80% of astrophysicists and biologists are atheist (you know the onlu domains of science that study origins) and 60% of all scientists are atheist, you find me 1 video that actually has good scientific evidence of good and I'll fly to your house (when i get the chance to) and suck your dick

and my friend you cant deny the presence of something if you cant see it

Uhm? What? Yeah i can deny the presenceof anything if there's no proof for it? There are other ways to prove something than to show it to somebody by the way, I can't see air but fill up a balloon and voilà you've proved that it exists

if you say all the holy books are made up

I am saying that

then how did they predict things happening in our current world

They don't but even if they happened to loosely predict something you'd still have to give good arguments for why a god had to have given these predictions not just a man, because last time i checked there's something called superforecasting, humans do it, and it's much more accurate than holy books A.K.A. fiction books

and i am going to tell you again how can a universe this big and so detailed be uncontrolled and yet create every thing so precisely measured and controlled

Uhm, we humans love to notice patterns where there are none, for all the order that you see where you are in the universe there's just as much disorder elsewhere, the universe has been a mess for most of the 13.8 billion years it has existed

why is earth accurately this far from earth?

Uhm? Earth is 0cm away from earth last time i checked. Oh you mean the sun?
1st "WHY" is not a question you get to ask here, "WHY" means that this thing must have happened for a reason which means that a conscious being that can think must have caused it and ofcourse i do not agree with that, if you ask "how" welp it's not that complicated we exist because we're in the goldilock zone, not the other way around, there are millions of other planets in the universe who are in goldilock zones and can sustain life, it's not that rare and there most likely is another place in the universe where there is life, the point is that this isn't impossible without a god, proof? It happened without a god, we know how it happened from the big bang to the assembly of gaz clouds to the assemby of stars, there are some pieces missing but that doesn't mean you can just jam your needless god in as a made up answer

and if we were fish why didnt all the fish become monkeys and all monkeys become humans
why are there still fish and monkeys?

ARE YOU... FUCKING RETARDED

Do you even know what evolution is? We didn't evolve FROM the fish you see around today, us and fish and apes all share COMMON ANCESTORS. Pick up a science notebook

Optional:

and about science
you cant explain everything by science

Yeah there are also philosophical qnd deductive reasoning questions but the things in the natural world that you can't explain with science... you can't explain with any other method. Scienceis the single most reliable method to find out the truth

if you were in a place you dont know and there are two rooms with their doors open, one with light off and the other on

you will enter the on with its light on as you would think its more secure or something
how can this be explained scientificly?

Yeah that's common sense, logic, you know that going into a room where you can SEE danger is much safer, that's just logic which is a branch of epistemology which is a branch of philosophy, 100% of all questions i know of are either scientific or philosophical

and as you said that living this life has a purpose anyways even there wasnt a god maybe by gathering money or by being someone important in your community

I didn't say that it's necessarily that way, but yeah you can give yourself purpose by doing that

but how does this all matter if you are going to die eventually?

Having 1 life is infinitely more meaningful than having an endless one. If this life is so insignificant compared to the next one then it is much less meaningful than it being your only shot. Can't you find a reason to enjoy life as it is on this planet? You can? Voilà that's a reason to live yourself, does it matter if you die? Uncontrollable immortality sounds like hell, you'd surely want to die at some point

billions wont stop you from dying

Who cares

how can something be so carved and perfect and you say its just there nobody created it or controlled it

Uhm, because it isn't perfect, it isn't perfect for life, 99% of the species that have ever existed are gone and even if it was perfect. evolution creates creatures that are perfect for their environment from nothing, what's your point?

i am not here to guide you to the right way or convince you anything and i hope you goodluck

Dude you didn't watch any if the videos i sent you, you're a lost cause i wouldn't care anyways

and i am not nearly capable or ready to make an end to this conversation but i surely know that science isnt the only guide i take in my decisions and the way i think

Yeah me neither i also follow secular philosophy, you follow what i presume to be a sexist, homophobic, violent, slavery supporting religion but that's your choice

and excuse my bad english

No problem i can still understand you

Dude i seriously don't want you to reply to this, if you do I'm seriously just going to ignore you unless you actually reply to shit that hasn't been addressed in a (non-optional) video i sent or a paragraph i wrote for you

[pinkfloyd]

@thestrangest the video says life began in a hot spring
did water make the single cellular life?

[TheStrangest]

@sup nah of course go ahead, and if you find any errors in my posts make sure to tell me.

[Willow]

@vahid-0 well bend me over backwards and fuck me in the ass. Is there such thing as heaven?

[TheStrangest]

@vahid-0 you forgot to mention "my god is made up" look here dudz your English is too bad for a debate or an argument so i won't even try

[TheStrangest]

@willow short answer : no

[TheStrangest]

@jimmy1708 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@vahid-0 he cant change us @TheStrangest no matter how long paragraphs he can write😂

True cuz no matter how i dumb it down you just won't get it, i do it when i find it fun or a good thing for improving my debating skills

😂🤣🤣, and u cant change them too, so these debates r pointless.....

Welp if the only goal is to change people's opinions then sure

Moral:- Fuck english, fuck english mens, fuck english users XD😂😂, fuck English inventors,etc....oh etc??.

That's pretty ignorant, you're too much of an ignoramus, this is why i don't debate you anymore

So why to care about ur english XD lolol😂😂🤣🤣

Whatever man can you just not talk to me? Thanks

[TheStrangest]

@willow said in What is your imagination about god?:

@thestrangest but
But
But
Me and @Lucifer were going to have a slumber party in hell

You are already in hell, just look around

[TheStrangest]

@vahid-0 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@thestrangest stranger u r killing me with my english talking...I'm persian bro and its my ability,,,you can correct me dude

I've never been in an English speaking country, you think i learned English by not being persian but instead being arab?

[TheStrangest]

@vahid-0 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@thestrangest,, my god hadn't made up,,,my god is single, ...can u say who has created the world???

Dude i told you that I'm not fucking talking to you, i already answered that question in my 1st response to you, repeating it won't make you understand it better, it's a waste of time. You're excommunicated

[vahid 0]

@thestrangest ok you are right !!!!

[Willow]

@thestrangest looks around
I dunno, my bed is heaven.

[sup]

@thestrangest said in What is your imagination about god?:

@sup nah of course go ahead, and if you find any errors in my posts make sure to tell me.

I surely will.

[Jimmyy]

@thestrangest debating on internet???🤣🤣😂😂 debating skills??? On internet???? 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Lmfao

XD

keyboard warrior🤣🤣😂😂

[sup]

@Jimmy1708 I won't deny...you had a point.

[Zack Williamson]

@vahid-0 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@vahid-0 thx my bosom pals because of your

Why are you replying to yourself?

replying to the post but finally im not convinceded with your answers-----

Convinced*
I got you fam this time. You're not convinced with your own answers this is why you're addressing and replying to yourself

Its hard to change people's habits,i have looked at your comments about gods but i haven't found any interesting comment that can persuade me to change my opinion in god----
My god is single
My god has kindly behaviour with all of his worshippers
All of prophets from Adam to Mohammed has sent by my god

Have been*

All people poor reach ugly beautiful weak powerful doctor worker old child and...are equal for my god ,,,,

and or and child*

My god recommends us to help poor people
My god wants us to stand against all oppressors
My god says us to help oppressed person
My god says if you believe me i will give u huge power
My god is self-contained
My god is the world's god,,,
My god has no son and no daughter
My god has no father or mother
My god is always with me
If you want to know more about the single god that has created all creatures should just call ,,,my god is ,.....

[TRose18]

God is like Admin, He had power and authority, but choose to not using his power...

[vahid 0]

Guys if you want to know god,first you should know yourself-------👱

[Willow]

@stranger_danger youre a dick

I hope you realize that

[sup]

@willow
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[TheStrangest]

@willow said in What is your imagination about god?:

@thestrangest looks around
I dunno, my bed is heaven.

Noiceeeeeee. A bag or chips, a drink, benging some series, that's heaven

[TheStrangest]

@sup said in What is your imagination about god?:

@jimmy1708 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@vahid-0 he cant change us @TheStrangest no matter how long paragraphs he can write😂😂🤣🤣, and u cant change them too, so these debates r pointless.....

Moral:- Fuck english, fuck english mens men, fuck english users XD😂😂, fuck English inventors,etc....oh etc??.bcoz we can fuck more about english..
So why to care about ur english XD lolol😂😂🤣🤣

Fixed
Jk😂😂

There are still like 7 mistakes you missed but k

[Willow]

@stranger_danger
^•^ yayyyy

[Willow]

@thestrangest ive already binge watched all of super natural while eating a gallon of ice cream
I made it to heaven ^•^

[Jacob55]

@thestrangest You were debating me? I thought we were sharing ideas? I'm not trying to be facetious, by the way.
At no point did I say you were wrong or that I was right, and vise versa. I didn't say, "I know 100% for sure that God exists", you have been saying to us believers, "you have no proof and there is no proof, therefore God doesn't exist." Belief, though it can be mislead, is defined as:

1. an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
2. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.
   You don't accept the existence of God. Why? Because peer reviewed scientists, smart men and women, have unequivocally proved life's process. From the big bang theory through the theory of evolution. They didn't prove God exists.
   I believe the big bang theory. I believe the theory of evolution. To the best of my knowledge I didn't once renounce them. Also, I'm not asking you to believe in God. It's not your desire nor your prerogative. I respect that and won't ask you to pray to invisible sky daddy. Which ever one is out there.
   I come here to share ideas, not prove my prowess in intellectual debate. I'm not good at debating. I'm sure you have seen that.
   I appreciate you and the detail you put into our discussions... debates, I guess. Haha.

[TheStrangest]

@jacob55 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@thestrangest You were debating me? I thought we were sharing ideas? I'm not trying to be facetious, by the way.
At no point did I say you were wrong or that I was right, and vise versa. I didn't say, "I know 100% for sure that God exists"

Nah we were debating not exchanging ideas, i was making assertions not just remarks that were supported to be amusing or entertaining nomatter how much they were, there's this thing you do thats basically "you're right but i don't agree with you", where you tell me that you can't debunk or argue against the things in saying and then you continue to just repeat that nothing you believe in has changes but if what i say is right and you can't argue against it then the whole of what you believe would have changed. You're using faith, i have already established that faith is not a reliable pathway to truth

Yeah welp some things still flew over your head, the thing about how there's no reason to believe jesus ever existed, you know, this video:

I don't remember what you said but it was completely irrelevant and you were expecting me somehow to think it rendered a whole video which explains to the detail why Jesus having actually existed is ultra improbable to be a non-argument. It's like your brain is a sponge that you squeeze empty after every time i talk with you. It's pointless

you have been saying to us believers, "you have no proof and there is no proof, therefore God doesn't exist."

wrong and I've explained this before too, i have been saying "you have no proof and there is no proof, therefore therefore God doesn't exist God there's no good reason to believe god exists."

I have been saying

Belief, though it can be mislead, is defined as:

1. an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.

Though you've never really said this before, K

Ok. Yeah sure let's say i accept that unicorns exist, how does that work? To accept something you'd have to already be not accepting of the necessarily evident fact that it exists, and for it to be evidently real there'd have to be proof, there we go, we're fucking back to proof again

2. trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.

No you DON'T have to have to have faith to belief in things if they're true. Didn't i explain this already along with why faith is useless? You even said that what I'm saying is ok or that you can't defend your position. You're just proving what i said earlier

You don't accept the existence of God. Why? Because peer reviewed scientists, smart men and women, have unequivocally proved life's process.

No, you can still have god even though that's true, but there's no proof of that, atheists have existed before science even existed, what's your point?

From the big bang theory through the theory of evolution.

Yeah atheists who existed before science didn't make up answers like "god did it" when these scientific theories weren't around

They didn't prove God exists.

Yeah that's true, if they did I'd believe he/she/it exists

I believe the big bang theory. I believe the theory of evolution. To the best of my knowledge I didn't once renounce them.

Cool, you're smarter than 99% of theists

Also, I'm not asking you to believe in God. It's not your desire nor your prerogative.

Cool

I respect that and won't ask you to pray to invisible sky daddy. Which ever one is out there.

Coooooooooool 👏👏👏👏👏

🖒👍

I come here to share ideas, not prove my prowess in intellectual debate. I'm not good at debating. I'm sure you have seen that.
I appreciate you and the detail you put into our discussions... debates, I guess. Haha.

You're welcome ig. Look, aslong as i have given arguments against sometimes you said then don't repeat it until you've debunked them because in a debate setting aslong as my arguments are standing strong then your claim is just unreasonable so there's no need to repeat it

[TheStrangest]

@jacob55 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@thestrangest When did science begin and can you give me examples of atheists before science?

We can say that people have been thinking scientifically since the foundation of philosophy(since philosophy gave birth to all sciences) as we know it with Plato(publishing works of Socrates and his own stuff bla bla bla) but the 1st recorded atheist is even before that, "Diagoras "the Atheist" of Melos (Greek: Διαγόρας ὁ Μήλιος) was a Greek poet and sophist of the 5th century BC. Throughout antiquity, he was regarded as an atheist, but very little is known for certain about what he actually believed. Anecdotes about his life indicate that he spoke out against ancient Greek religion. He allegedly chopped up a wooden statue of Heracles and used it to roast his lentils and revealed the secrets of the Eleusinian Mysteries. The Athenians banished him from their city for his impiety and he died in Corinth."-your friend, Wikipedia

But each domain of science can be safely said to have largely grown(lots of theories, formula...) from non-existence(practically no useful or impressive findings) with a particular scientist, Newton for Physics, Antoine-Laurent de Lavoisier for chemistry... none of these influential scientists can be really found before the 12th century so we can safely say modern science started at the 12th century(source : https://www.google.fr/amp/s/scientificgems.wordpress.com/2013/11/08/when-did-science-begin/amp/), i can even safely guess (without looking up a lot of stuff) that the majority of all ground-breaking scientific findings happened from the 17th century forward

http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/Science_17C.html

[Jacob55]

@thestrangest Gotcha. Thank you

[TheStrangest]

@jacob55 you're welcome

[TheStrangest]

@jacob55 said in What is your imagination about god?:

@thestrangest Gotcha. Thank you

Jeez you shouldn't have thanked me, i accidentally said Antoine-Laurent de Lavoisier created physics instead of chemistry(i now have edited out all the 3 4 errors i made trying to rapidly write da reply)

[vahid 0]

@thestrangest im physicist, if u have any ques ask me---😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

[vahid 0]

@thestrangest why??😥😥😥😥

[vahid 0]

@thestrangest the concept of virtual particles is describing in quantum field theory--its hard now to say it here--

[vahid 0]

@thestrangest ok you r right!!!!! Excuse me man but i think u r so arrogant---change ur behaviour---u think that all people are liar, like urself

[princessjodi]

@vahid-0 There is no God, its all bullshit,

1. The bible was written by a pagan on his death bed
2. There is no hell or heaven is just a fairy tale when we die thats it its all over
3. Nothing in religion can be proven to be real

[PoPo159]

@canadadry i am not Christian. In fact i dnt believe in the concept of religion. I believe it was created by people in power to prevent people from uniting.

[CanadaDry]

Exactly. Religion is a tool to control the masses.

[PoPo159]

@canadadry people believe in god so that they can hide behind him. God made me do this, It was god's will, they teach their children about god so that they dnt turn into assholes, that they remain scared, that someone is watching them, judging them. And it still fails. There are serial killer who are religious. If you need god to be scared into doing the right thing, then maybe you are an asshole.

[Le0nard0]

@mamababa12 GOD is a word in English, was given to one and only universal super natural power, we also call it creator, and universe was created by itself... So either you call it God or creator or universe is the same...
Unfortunately humans decide to just read and argue with others over so called religions, some says Christianity is better and some says Islam.. But none want to understand that universe was created by itself not by humans, human being is species not gods

You are not here to argue over who's God and if exists, you are here to live and your duty/religion is to how to live.. If you know teach others.. If don't learn from others

[vahid 0]

@sammy then who create us??

[vahid 0]

@batman no man I'm really curious about people's opinions about god pls say anything about god that u know

[vahid 0]

@stranger_danger dude pls say ur experience about god.

[vahid 0]

@shutup someone have created us and created universe too---i mean why we dont accept that there is god

[vahid 0]

@sammy bro i mean when we r alive this mean we have gotten created by someone--i believe that god create us --then there is god--then when we say there is no god we r trying to ditch the mind power that like finding god

[pinkfloyd]

if there is no god then why are we even living?

[vahid 0]

@shutup its really admirable that u don't accept something without evidence,,,but u know from the big bang until now millions of peoples have lived,millions have killed,millions have married,millions have divorced,millions have fallen in love,....and finally millions have died....
If life is this why we r living..if there is no goal for life why we r wasting our time,,,,everything has one creater and god create us,,,if u say that god has creater too i can say that ur god creater has creater too and its a false turn thats confusing,,,,if there is no god then who created love,,,,who created tears,,,,who sends prophets,,,
We can't say there is no god when during the times peoples r trying to find it and occurred many wars that causing many innocents being killed,,