@Lurker said in The Riddle Series (Volume 1):
Here's my take: ...
@Lurker you are a genius. While I was out I continued thinking about your solution and it occurred to me, that you actually found not one but two solutions to the riddle. Albeit they both use the trick.
Still @Lurker will have to share his grand price with whoever is able to solve this riddle without using the trick.
@OliveOlivia said in What was your weirdest dream..??:
@Hero_Hunter One time I had a dream that this ball of light fell from the sky and to the floor. It came near me and started talking to me and it was God. He asked me, "Whats happening down here? This doesn't make sense to me." I asked him what he meant and he told me, "everyone cares about who is a girl and who is a boy, if someone is lesbian or straight, or what their race is or where they come from. It makes no sense. We have no genders, we have no race, our souls have none of those things, so why is it such a big deal down here?" and I didn't know how to answer him. Then I woke up.
Wow... do you think that might actually have been God?
@cjko said in What is it you really don't like in a partner?:
Someone who cheats, ofc.
is that a small thing you don't like in your partner? :joy::yum:
@Sugarpockets said in Fact check with Pet: Can you prove God's existence? Part I:
I just know He's there regardless of any thoughts or opinions.
Yeah sometimes one just knows things...
@Mr-Ghost my solution after a few minutes of thinking about #2 would have been
but I wasn't so sure about why expiring serves. Then I looked. You might want to not include the solution in the riddle though to make it easier for ppl to not give in to their temptations :smiling_imp:
@OliveOlivia said in What was your weirdest dream..??:
@petrapark3r Yes and no?
Let's assume that is a maybe then :joy:
@ashhhhh said in Do you hide your faith?:
@petrapark3r Hi, I don’t see why anyone should ever hide their faith. Whichever religion it is that you’re practising, I’m sure all of them stand for this ideal and fairly impractical level of perfection w respect to morals and ethics and what not. We’re all sinners in different ways and faith is what pushes us to become better and to show people that they could do better, so I’d rather not hide my faith ever, instead, I’ll wear it like a jewel to proudly show it off to the world to see, so they can learn a little from the vast expanse of wisdom I believe every faith has to offer.
That is a wise choice. I mean I do try to wear my faith with humility instead of pride, because I'm not worthy of the graces I'm receiving, but yeah, you are right. We shouldn't hide the light from others...
@sarah_the_magpie said in Pet and Vex Man debate WAR:
@pe7erpark3r
you're absolutely correct! if my memory serves me right, most of the crusaders were basically just peasants who were told that if they help to liberate the holy land~, they can keep whatever they pillage & loot along the way. they definitely weren't motivated by any doctrines :D
and, of course, the armies of the fourth crusade somehow ended up sacking constantinople instead, probably the biggest oopsie in all of medieval history.
:joy: oopsie. Best comment I've ever heard on the fourth crusade :joy:
It's a good thesis. To back it, we should find a few instances of wars that were fought purely because of opposing doctrines. I'm not entirely sure we would not find a few, but I do suspect there are not many.
well, what about the cold war? i'd say that it qualifies as a doctrinal war, because it truly did divide most of the world into two ideologically-opposed camps.
I absolutely agree with you that ideologies group people together. And thus I agree that they also have the ability to divide people. However I think we are lucky, that people were not so powerhungry that an actual war broke out, or that their power hunger wasn't greater than their fear of total destruction :sweat_smile:
But yeah, the cold war is not a bad example, even though it doesn't fulfill the definition of the word "war" I had in mind.
also, if civil wars count, i'd add the american civil war to the list. it was most definitely fought over principles, with the union fighting for emancipation and the confederacy fighting for states' rights & slavery
Civil wars do count. I've always been of the conviction that civil wars tend to be fought over social injustice (in this case slavery). But I'm sadly not educated enough about the causal chain (or causal net I guess) of the american civil war. Maybe you are right...
I have to tell you guys that honestly those riddles are dangerous for me. At least the ones that cannot be solved in a couple of minutes. The first time I tried to solve the "#1 two doors" riddle took me about 24 hours. I almost forgot to sleep and did not eat properly. I did nothing but think about the riddle. I get obsessed with these things, until I have some kind of solution.
That was years ago however, and maybe I have learned from it a little and stop thinking about it after an hour or so these days. Don't know. I liked @Mr.Ghost's "4 men, two hat colors" riddle from a few months ago, and I kept at it until I had the solution. Luckily it only took me 20 minutes :sweat_smile:
@OliveOlivia said in What was your weirdest dream..??:
@Hero_Hunter No, I just realized that humanity is a mess 😂
Yeah, we are. Yeah we are. God's trying to fix it, but people just scream back in indignation...
@cjko said in What is it you really don't like in a partner?:
@petrapark3r nah, about the curse.
I feel like I'm reading a riddle with your reply lol
me: cursing shows a lack of style
me: dont like cursing, especially the hard words
me: says 'shit' a lot
@belethor said in Pet and Vex Man debate WAR:
@pe7erpark3r @sarah_the_magpie You're both really smart! I'm not good at debating, but I wanted to tell both of you guys that it was interesting to read your opinions 😁
thunks bud :grin:
Well good riddles are hard to come by and easily rise to fame I suppose. But it's still fun for all those who haven't heard them yet...
@OliveOlivia said in Witty comeback response time...:
@Indrid-Cold I wouldn't freeze time. Having to come up with something fast and on the spot is apart of the fun! Whether my response was good, bad, or non existent, its specifically the lack of time that makes it worth anything
So true! :joy: Thank god that cup went past me... feew. No freezin time :joy:
@Sabo-go-thud said in Imagine you knew your future:
Knowing yeah........no. it also means you know Exactly when and how you and anyone you know is gonna die. Can you save your Grandma's life knowing her heart is bad? Can you tell that friend to not drive at night at the corner of Freemont and Main? Can you avoid your dog getting old?
About all the real profecies (debatable of course but give me the benefit of assuming here) I know of, e.g. any profecy in the bible as well as a few others are always conditional. When God says to a king in the old testament that he'll die for his sins, and he converts himself, he doesn't die. And if God says to His people that they will see the blessed land, and they leave Him (after moving out of egypt), then only their children reach the land.
So yeah, with a real profecy of this kind you could save your grandma and the friend killing himself in the car. You cannot, and should not change the natural course of life (preventing your dog from getting old). In the end the profecy is given for your conversion, for your good and for the good of those around you. That is its only purpose...
@Indrid-Cold said in Pet and Vex Man debate WAR:
Viva indoctrination, I say. At least it shows you can conceive of something bigger than yourself, even if you might not be able to show your workings-out, or justify your morality to the Nth degree. No one's morality stands up as well as it should.
:joy: always something fun to say
@Rohan-Shah said in Does religion play a significant role in your life??:
Well, religions do more harm than good.
Have you ever heard about communism? It is the ideology that has had the most victims in all of human history. Many times more victims than nazi germany or the dictators of the antique (yeah, even the romans already had Konzentrationslager, just as cruel as the nazis). And what is it based on? Materialism: "There is nothing but this world, there is no higher authority that the state's leaders are responsible toward". So atheism clearly has done more harm than any of the great religions. I'm just citing data, statistics really.
Maybe it would be more true to say that humans do more harm than good. Because humans harm each other in the name of all kinds of things, may they be religion, science, reason or even music :grimacing:
Most religions have illogical exaplanation of the world
True. So does atheism btw.... I'll make a topic about it this week :joy:
@Indrid-Cold said in Witty comeback response time...:
@petrapark3r Yes, but that shows you respect your fellow (wo)man enough to give them only the best word play. If only everyone was so considerate.
Hopefully, someday I'll say something so provocative to you, you get back to me as a wizened old-timer like
Yeah, I'll give you that comeback and if I have to do it with my last breath :joy:
@SassSSSKE-Monday said in Do you like death?:
@petrapark3r my question is why death is not Scary for u now ?
That is a good question, and I'm not actually sure...
I mean I have suffered a lot in my life, so, the idea of living forever is something I would have already called hell years ago. But that was at a time, when I'd still have said that I fear being dead. I already had some faith back than, but my faith did grow with experiencing how God kept acting in my life. So that might play a role.
You know I started trusting in Him more in other things. Like for example I had a crazy fear of dying of hunger. But now I trust God to feed me. Yeah really. I do trust, that when something bad happens or a war or anything, that He makes sure I have enough food to survive.
But the moment where I realized that I didn't fear death anymore was not special. So I cannot say for sure.
@Vex-Man said in Pet and Vex Man debate WAR:
@pe7erpark3r said in Pet and Vex Man debate WAR:
Thanks for the invitation.
sure bud :smile:
We both are agree on a point that "some wars are caused by religions" and "some others wars were fought for the name of religion"
No, I do not agree that some wars are caused by religions. I agree that religion prays a role in allowing some wars to happen (as in doctrines uniting people, and promising rewards). But my thesis is that the actual cause, that is enough for a whole war to break out, is something more than just a doctrine/religion.
I agree that some wars are only fought in the "name of religion".
I took my time to understand Peter's arguments (we discussed some of them in PMs)
Since I am an atheist and peter is a christian, we would like to limit this debate with Christianity only. We will not talk about Islam.
The main argument of peter was - 'Christianity grows through only conversion'. It is all about current events and is no longer related to past.
I give you my counter-argument - 'Christianity actually does not grow throu conversion',
Also, we both are agree on a point "Statistically it is true that Christianity grows its followers through conversion"
If your argument is that christianity grows through wars, then it is accepted. However I think the question how christianity grows is worth its own discussion.
Is there any word limit ?
good idea yeah... lets say around 500 words.
Add some universal debate rules too - http://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~karchung/debate1.htm
Good entry. Of course we'll have to modify this a bit to fit the form we are using: So I agree as far as it can be done on TWS and without forming teams (since everybody may join).
My counter-argument has four parts- I will write only first part in this post. Until this part ain't countered properly, I will not reveal other three parts.
Part no. 1- Christian extremists- Once upon a time American president Mr. Barack Obama was giving a speech against terrorism. He tried to cite 'Dark side of Christianity'. The problem with media is, they do not enough attention to christian terrorists. There are some christian extremist groups which are still active-
(i). The army of God, USA- It is known for endorsing violence against gays. This bombardier group especially Rudolph bombed a lesbian bar (Atlanta) in 1997. Also, this group kills those doctors who provide abortions. This is how this group contributes the growth of Christianity by increasing their birth rates. Rudolph is the leader of this group. The whole group reiterates proverbs 24:10-12 in many interviews. In one London clinic alone, 6000 women were affected by this group (2017).
(ii). Eastern lighting, China (based on Gospel of Matthew 24:27)- This group believes that this world is going to end soon. Therefore, the demons should be killed as soon as possible. This group considers women are inferior to men. However, it has a notion that Jesus will come on the earth in a form of Chinese women. In 2014, a woman was killed by this group because she rejected to give her mobile number. In 2002, the members of this cult kidnapped China Gospel Fellowship's 34 members because they were not joining this cult.
(iii). The Lord's resistance army, Uganda - It has spread its terrorism from Uganda to Congo, CAR and South Sudan. According to human rights watch, it has committed thousands of killings and kidnappings. The main leader of this group kony hopes that sub-sahara will implement a Christianize law like sharia law in the region. The LRA has abducted more than 67000 youth, including 30,000 children, for use as child soldiers, sex slaves and porters since 1987.
(iv). The National Liberation Front of Tripura, India- It has no tolerance for other religious people i.e. Hindus. It kills, kidnaps and tortures those Hindus who refuse to become Christians. It has established Christian fundamentalist Government in Tripura. Also, this movement hopes to secede from India. In 2000, it killed several Hindus who were participating in 'Durga Puja'. And in May 2003, at least 30 Hindus were murdered during one of its killing sprees. The Baptist church of tripura supplies army items to it. 5,000 tribal villagers were forcefully converted during 1999-2001. In 2001, 826 terrorist attacks were done by this group.(v). The Phineas Priesthood- It believes that non-WASPs should be killed and it is an order of the God. Whoever are whites, can join this group and white Anglo Saxon Protestants are God's chosen people- a nice notion. Lerry one of the member of this group, fired over 100 rounds at targets. To be succinct, this group bombs abortion clinics and robs banks' money. It is based on Bible's old testament in which God rewarded someone for killing an interfaith couple.
(vi). The Concerned Christians- A group which is active in Israel!!! This group tried to blow up holy sites of Muslims and wants to throw Muslims out of the nation.Christianity grows its adherents by killing homosexuals, by illegally increasing Christians' birth rates, by forcefully conversion and by throwing out other religious people. In a christian country, homosexuals do not and cannot produce christian babies.
I do agree, that doctrines do motivate a lot of evil. Also "christian" doctrines like the ones you mentioned. But all of the things mentioned do not fulfill the defintion of "war". This is terrorism. Even if the president of the US calls what the US do a "war against terrorism", these certainly do not fullfill the criteria of an all out war (like the korean war). At least as far as I can judge from what you wrote about those incidents/terroristic groups.
I will make a new topic soon, about the question of how christianity grows. We can debate this topic there.
