War on the better half (inspired by Gillette)


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    Rape, murder, war.

    They all have one thing in common. Men.
    Aggression, violence, ambition unchecked by conscience -- all the stuff of toxic masculinity, right?
    And, the solution is obvious:
    make men less toxic.
    Make men less masculine.
    Make men more like women.

    But this way of thinking is not only wrong, it’s dangerous. Here’s why:
    When you try to make men more like women, you don’t get less toxic masculinity, you get more.
    Why? you may ask
    Because bad men don’t become good when they stop being men; they become good when they stop being bad.

    Aggression, violence, and unbridled ambition can’t be eliminated from the male psyche. They are the male energy which drives them, just like woman have their feminine energy, so they can only be harnessed.

    And when they are harnessed, they are tools for good, not for harm. The same masculine traits that bring destruction also defeat tyranny. The traits that foster greed also build economies. The traits that drive men to take foolish risks also drive men to take heroic risks.
    The answer to toxic masculinity isn’t less masculinity; it’s better masculinity.

    It’s a young man opening the door for a girl on their first date.
    It’s a father working long hours to provide for his family.
    It’s a soldier risking his life to defend his country.
    and the examples can be seen when you just look at your brothers or fathers.

    The growing problem in today’s society isn’t that men are too masculine, it’s that they’re not masculine enough.

    When men embrace their masculinity in a way that is healthy and productive, they are leaders, warriors and heroes.
    When they deny their masculinity, they run away from responsibilities, leaving destruction and despair in their wake.

    The consequences can be seen everywhere:

    • One in four fathers now lives apart from his children.
    • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes – 5 times the average.
    • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
    • 85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.
    • 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average.
    • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average.
      THE STUDY WHERE I TOOK THE DATA FROM

    Yet, the current trend is to feminize young men starts at the earliest ages.

    • In the school classroom boys are invariably “the problem.”
    • We tell young men that their intrinsic desire to compete is wrong. Everybody gets a trophy
    • we label them as born rapists

    Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools and Boys are treated like defective girls.

    This anti-male tilt continues on through higher education, where the ideal girl behavior is favored by the professors.

    It has not only created millions of tentative men, but unhappy women, and confused boys and girls too.

    Here’s a secret for yall:

    women want 'real' men, unless theyre lesbians, then thats another story;
    men they can count on and, yes, look up to.
    and No amount of feminist theory will change that. I don’t know any woman yet, who is attracted to a passive man.
    Everyone, I know wants a strong, responsible man and that’s not a consequence of a social construct or cultural pressure—it’s innate.
    The devaluation of masculinity won’t end well because feminine-passive men don’t stop evil.
    Passive men don’t defend, protect or provide.
    Passive men don’t lead.
    Passive men don’t do the things we have always needed men to do for society to thrive.

    In his book The Abolition of Man, English social philosopher C.S. Lewis writes about this problem.
    He describes the tension between cerebral man and visceral man.
    Lewis explains, "By his intellect, man is mere spirit and by his appetite mere animal.
    We need both.
    Take away one, and you’re left with a man who’s either weak or is wicked.
    And in a world of wickedness, weak men are nothing more than enablers of wicked men.

    Rape, murder, war.
    They all have one thing in common: Bad men who do the raping, murdering, and warring;
    and weak men who won’t stop them.

    We need good men who will stop the bad in us.

    It’s not masculinity that’s toxic.

    It’s the lack of it.



  • Thats a lot of damage



  • Are masculinity and femininity still things anymore? It probably only matters if you take it to extremes: in evolutionary terms, men are hunter-gatherers. I'm aware that's an arbitrary distinction, but it's still true. In my opinion, men have far less to answer for compared to women. Distilled down to their essence, women are all about mothering. The question is, which can society do without more? Things will still need to be hunted and gathered regardless of whether every woman has the baby her hormones are hard-wired to lust after.

    Now, even if men's evolutionary drive to hunt-and-gather spills over into war, mankind is slowly getting savvy: we have the Geneva Convention, the UN, the consensus that the West getting involved in sovereign internal wars is stoopid -- yet what kind of consensus is there that our societies are densely overpopulated, and could probably do with fewer kids? And I'm not saying that just because I don't want to be stuck behind the ubiquitous screaming kid in the post office queue. It's my conviction that if more women were childless, this would happen: instead of a bloke having to take a highly paid and (let's face it) unnecessary admin job, which is the only way they can get the necessary money for a baby and all the trappings, the woman and the man could each take a lower paid, more enjoyable and far more tangible job, and in that way, the whole of the economy would become more utilitarian and streamlined.

    And with regard to the implication of the Gillette ad, that all men are uncouth bullies ...deal with this: (kicks over dustbin, runs away laughing with mates)



  • @IM-NOT-HRNY
    Was there a age where rape war and other things dident happen. was that the golden of masculinity, hasnt muder and rape decresesd over the past many years, and what reason do you suspect for that change in crime

    is it how school a run now a days

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    https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

    and women can rape too


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    @IM-NOT-H***Y humm, how many times can i adore this post? ❤
    I have a very strong opinion on this, there's a reason why men and women are different and i fear it's gone backwards, by a lot. First, we need to say that we don't think women should be submissive (as that is always what i get when i talk about this), that's stupid talk, and wanting a man who is masculine in no way is asking for that man to be abusive (this is when i usually stop conversation because anyone who understands thats what im saying is just being dumb and not worthy of a proper conversation).
    Men need to have their place, and be protective, manly masculine (the cowboy code comes to mind) and women have fought SO hard to be seen that i think along the way it went too far and we stepped over men.
    Now, women are absolutely bad ass and capable of achieving anything we want.
    Men are amazing, i just love a good man, someone who works with his hands, is not afraid to stand up, protects what he loves.
    And on a personal note, i grew up with abusive men and let me tell you, they were all weak. I don't mean because they were abusive:
    None of them stood up for what he believed, protected, opened doors, made the effort, and ive looked up at how they grew up, all of them.
    So you see, im not afraid of a real man, s h i t, i worry about those without a back bone.
    (and i could go on for ever on this subject)


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    @Vanessa-Snow
    I agree, people have diluted the concept of masculinity, with being dominating. And femininity, with being abused.
    I too come from a dysfunctional family, so i can sympathize with you.

    there's a saying in my country

    half filled pots, makes the most noise

    and that somehow, describes the fake men. As if, they are compensating for something with all that unnecessary aggression.

    But still, we cant blame them for it, cause they are just abiding to the picture that the society has devolved a man to be like.

    (and i could go on for ever on this subject)

    you can, we're all ears!


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    @Indrid-Cold said in War on the better half (inspired by Gillette):

    Are masculinity and femininity still things anymore? It probably only matters if you take it to extremes: in evolutionary terms, men are hunter-gatherers.

    It still is!
    Some rules never change, It was survival of the fittest then, its survival of the fittest now.
    the game mightve changed from hunting and gathering to jobs, but the rule still holds.

    In my opinion, men have far less to answer for compared to women. Distilled down to their essence, women are all about mothering.

    I highly disagree with this one.
    Thinking of women as nothing but birthing-machines, is unnatural and gross.
    Evolutionary speaking, if it was meant to be like that way, then why bother with giving almost similar capabilities as men, couldve just made a limbless glory hole with a sole purpose of propagation.

    The question is, which can society do without more? Things will still need to be hunted and gathered regardless of whether every woman has the baby her hormones are hard-wired to lust after.

    And no that will never be the question. Cause in this walk of life, its important to have both the limbs intact, one being a man, and other being a woman. To lose one is to, lose the race. Ive already given the data as to why in my post.


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    @alkal33 said in War on the better half (inspired by Gillette):

    @IM-NOT-HRNY
    Was there an age when rape war and other things didn't happen?

    Blame it on the territorial and morbid nature of humans, there wasn't.

    was that the golden period of masculinity?

    If there comes a time of total peace, it would be the consequence of the "golden period of masculinity" and not its cause.

    hasn't murder and rape decreased over the past many years?
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    https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

    No it hasn't. You are thinking about only the developed countries when you give me that study, in many developing and under-developed countries, these still prevail. I can say, because I belong from one myself.

    and what reason do you suspect for that change in crime? is it how school a run now a days?

    The main reason I suspect now, is more exposure. In the past, a crime was committed, and the outburst either died in a few weeks, or was suppressed. But with the rise of internet and better communication, what one does, is permanently etched in the society. And people, care a lot about how other's see them. So the internet and better communications, is what i think are the main reasons. And yes, somewhat, the schooling system too can be given their due credits.

    and women can rape too

    Yes.

    hope i answered all your queries



  • @IM-NOT-HRNY

    thanks for your anwsers really apriciate them

    Blame it on the territorial and morbid nature of humans, there wasn't.

    so first of all so i should now blame it on human morbid nature, and not on the lack of masculinity at those ereas

    If there comes a time of total peace, it would be the consequence of the "golden period of masculinity" and not its cause.

    is there anyway you can prove that

    No it hasn't. You are thinking about only the developed countries when you give me that study, in many developing and under-developed countries, these still prevail. I can say, because I belong from one myself.

    does the war on male gender happen in the un developt world.
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    https://ourworldindata.org/homicides

    The main reason I suspect now, is more exposure. In the past, a crime was committed, and the outburst either died in a few weeks, or was suppressed. But with the rise of internet and better communication, what one does, is permanently etched in the society. And people, care a lot about how other's see them. So the internet and better communications, is what i think are the main reasons. And yes, somewhat, the schooling system too can be given their due credits.

    so you do acknowledge that harder punishment for crime also help like the death penalty for example, and more police,

    The main reason I suspect now, is more exposure. In the past, a crime was committed, and the outburst either died in a few weeks, or was suppressed. But with the rise of internet and better communication, what one does, is permanently etched in the society. And people, care a lot about how other's see them. So the internet and better communications, is what i think are the main reasons. And yes, somewhat, the schooling system too can be given their due credits.

    why do then think it happend around 1991 and 1991



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