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  • In the most pessimistic probabilities among the trillions of known stars one has to consider the even the most fragile possibility of repeating the combinations found on this small rocky planet in a star of small magnitude as is the sun. Temperature, pressure, liquid water, atmosphere, oxygen gas concentration, location in relation to the dominant star, presence of satellite, panspermia, radiation doses controlled by an ozone layer and of course the possibility of favoring the formation of life forms based on carbon are some of the complex variables to allow a sketch of this lost laboratory in known space.
    Although these rare conditions can be repeated, it is necessary to consider evolutionary stages of species that still do not leave the primordial brood, with no chance of thriving without first developing autotrophy, chemosynthesis of volcanic chimneys in deep oceans, first drafts of heterotrophy , concentration of minerals and nutrients to form simple amino acids and random tests of plasma resistance of the first microorganisms. Millions of years of evolution considering the bombardments of wandering bodies from the hostile space.
    It is the incredible combination of the hostility of the outside to absurdly fragile cellular organisms.

  • Even if these very rare conditions were fulfilled we would still have the Homeric challenge of allowing the evolution of billions of years for propitiously said beings that would reach rudiments of rationality. For these beings still in their hypothesis of exsence and millions of years of evolution we would still have similar difficulty to ours of their longevity, oxidized their genes by aerobic respiration, hydrolysis by hydrogen in their deoxyribonucleic acids. These possible beings should still develop technology to extract themselves from their orbs thousands of light years, defying the unknown to suffer the inclemencies of space and risking their existence, despite the most brilliant fictions that we have written since Jules Verne.

  • we would need for this logical effort still to predict the sensory compatibilities of the diversified natures that an infinite space would be able to elaborate over the billions of years and still imagine whether other non-carbon based life forms are viable entering our inhospitable globe and our hostile species for an entrance of other beings.

  • @IM-NOT-NEEDY said in Where is Everyone?:

    we would've noticed them by now

    I often joke around and call myself an alien, since I personally think I have a very unique way of thinking and seeing things, I like to think myself as someone weird and exquisite. People that know me can probably confirm this... And let me double check... people that KNOW me, there's very few in TWS that does and none of the people that i'm thinking fully knows me... and that's because we, as humans, are a never ending change! ๐Ÿคท

    Back to topic, my guess is that there are indeed other civilizations but it's as the meme says:

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    "This" is "Us" the human race.
    Would you approach and try to be friend something you find boring and don't identify with? I know... we shouldn't judge a book by the cover, but a civilization that has means to fully travel the space would really bother with someone that is struggling to actually move? ๐Ÿค”

  • @IM-NOT-HORMY honey Im home

  • Yeah. The Drake Equation. I think it's the best thing Charlie Drake ever did (though I do like Rhubarb Rhubarb).

    But my own personal theory? The vibe I get? There are / were / will be numerous space-civilizations and they all reach more or less the same level of sophistication as us, but never any further. Because of the insidious, evil, gnostic nature of capitalism. In the end, it tears apart all thinking life. Look me in the eye and tell me we'll ever have a Star Trek style Starfleet while our economies are this fragile, and getting worse every day. Y'know. Sorry to be a downer, folks.

  • @IM-NOT-HRNY said in Where is Everyone?:

    the strong dominates the weak.

    The same principle applies then! ๐Ÿ˜… We might be so insignificant to them that they don't even bother ๐Ÿ˜‚ It's sad but might be the truth hahaha

    @IM-NOT-HRNY said in Where is Everyone?:


    Yes m8, sorry i'm not an alien ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • TL;DR......

  • @IM-NOT-HORMY Special delivery from tws that notified me of ur post ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ’—

    Hey.. I like that u also into astrology like I'm .. I made a lot of hypothesis on astrology concepts.. N I made new one(more then one) while reading ur topic..

    1. maybe they know human r not worthy yet to know em. N waiting for being like them so they have to visit us for their growth.. I mean who don't think about own profit .. Maybe aliens think too..
    2. maybe they visit our planet but they know how to talk with other species, like dog, cat, dolphins , octopus.. N they got enough data to judge humans ..
    3. or they somehow find a way to jump into dimensions for fast af space travel.. N who knows when die then we open eyes in another dimension called "heaven/hell" ..
    4. maybe we r nobita's science project or someone like nobita n that guy store us in doremon's pocket... ๐Ÿ˜…
    5. or they really far away from us .. Btw did u know that "wow message" people says that message is send by aliens.. N we still not able to decode that.. That message received on 15 Aug 1977 n some scientists says that message sent 200 years ago .. (So yeah.. Aliens exist for sure.. N they r not just only one).
    6. or they want us to be like em before our meet up .. Blah blah blah..
      I just over think .. ๐Ÿ˜…
      Btw I'm not astrology student but like to make hypothesis ..
      U gave me boost for my Friday's fact.. Don't miss that.. U will love that ๐Ÿ˜‰ .. (N now lemme change ur username -_-)

  • I agree with this analysis. The problem of our science, however advanced, is that it can only admit carbon bonds to constitute life as we know it, for in this rock lost in space was the only viability possible from the simplest organizations. Variations of non-formed carbon organizations would be interesting news to us. Too bad we have no comparative elements so our science can theorize about other forms of life.

    yeah.. Some people thinks that was their goodbye message like we r moving another galaxy or something xD

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