this is a ...disturbing topic, care to shed some background? any time of violence or abuse is not tolerated here or in person
Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?
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@emily yeah. I meant surah 4 verse 34. My mistake
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@emily By the way. It doesn't matter if 1 verse i showd was not real. I wrote down the locations of a lot of sexist verses that you can find.
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@how-to-make-a I have just corrected your misconception about 2 so far.
Sex slavery.
Beating wife.I will prove them all to you whatever you consider violent and sexist :)
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@emily lololololololoooloolololll. The site you showed me said that it's ok because what it actually means is beat them (lightly)
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In the quran it doesn't have "(slightly)" written. How do i know this? Because i have a quran in my hand right now, lol.
So no @Emily , you didn't correct my misconception. And don't forget that I'm an ex-muslim who speaks fluent Arabic so you won't be able to convince me that the verses don't mean what they actually mean
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@how-to-make-a Oh u r such a clueless soul!
The quran which you have in your hand is again transalted in english by normal humans like you who can make mistakes. I told you clearly its wrong word used while translation, read the conclusion ending paragraph before making judgements.
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@emily HAHAHAHAHA. Did you read the edited comment. I have an arabic quran in my hand honey you won't be able to convince me that the verses don't actually mean what they mean.
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@emily you're the one reading someones explination of the verse and I'm the one reading the verse from a real arabic quran. Lol. The websites you're looking at are lies. Go get the quran which is in your house and read from there
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@emily
That's me.P.S. "idrubuhunn" means "Hit them" in arabic and the website you're looking at is bullshit
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one superior to the other and because they spend to support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are obedient and they guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard. And, as to those women from whom you fear disobedience, give them a warning, send them to separate beds, and beat them.” is the correct translation to english and the website you're looking at is saying non-sense. Go get your quran and read it for yourself.
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@emily what. Did you give up?
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@emily go get your quran and go through your quran and read the verses i quoted. If you somehow found a way to justify the verses that clearly order muslims to cut off heads and fingers, the verses that clearly order muslims to kill gays, THEN Tell me about your justifications.
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@bobbys-noona u right
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@Emily there is no point in talking with him . he know the quran more than u do .but he chose not to follow . i tried with him before now we are out of the context of the topic ... he will alway tell you about bittin women and homos and kill the non believer. i want you to know that :
1 - there is nothing about homo sexuality in quran.
2 - we was told to kill the unbelievers cuz they use to kill and slave muslim .so w've been giving the order to defend our self ... that law was active back then we it was war time and its not now ... its forbidden to hurt any human and he know so.
@how-to-make-a didn't god say . if u killed one soul without a reason its like killing the hole humanity ?
3 - about women i think miss @bobbys-noona made it clear .
finely i think both of you (@Emily - @bobbys-noona ) for helping make the world a bteer place . thnk you. -
@Emily
Go get the quran and read it for yourself if you don't believe that the verses I'm quoting are actually there. P.S. don't listen to @Muslim because he's crazy [i already explained why. Because he doesn't believe in modern science, he thinks that being gay is unnatural even though it is genetic (i sent him a video of a science show explaining that being gay is genetic, you can find the video if you go through my comments).....]. So just read the verses i quoted and think for yourself, @Muslim is telling you not to go and search for the verses in your quran because i already showed him verse 4 surah 15-16 which says that gays deserve to die and he realised that the verses I'm quoting are actually in the quran and I'm not just making them up so he doesn't want you to see them. Like i said, go get your quran and read the verses i quoted and then tell me what you think? :)And also @Muslim saying that the verses are justifiable because they only apply in war times doesn't make any sense because a moral god would never command such horrible things
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@how-to-make-a your being evil now . what ever ... i guess everyone can think for him self .isn me nor u have the right to ell em what to do . am just saying keep ur dirty ideas for u .. let em decide by theire self.
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@muslim wtf are you saying. I'm just showing @Emily verses from the quran that i think are horrible and telling her to read them and think for herself and you're telling me that I'm being evil for doing that. How does that make me Evil. I already told you that calling me names like ("Evil", "brainwashed"....) won't help you win an argument against me
https://ar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/شخصنة (you can change the language to english if you want but i think you're going to prefer reading it in Arabic)
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@emily @Emily @GK @Totenkopf Please read this entire comment with a quran in your hand or while being on on https://quran.com.
(This is a different edited comment from the last 5 that are similar to it)
Not all Muslims believe in islam at the same level. That's why not all muslims are violent. When i was a muslim i used to believe some stupid shit but i wasn't able to kill people even though I'm pretty sure if i staid in syria long enough i could have become a crazy murderer because of Islam. The reason why I'm cursing so much is because i have lost hope that you will doubt you're beliefs, because you ( @Muslim ) don't believe in evolution even though it is a fact in science, so you basically don't believe in science. Even though you don't believe in science, you are saying that scientists have discovered that
1.ants are made of glass
2.that the moon was cut in 2
Even though they clearly haven't because if they did i would be able to find 1 single scientific article about it even though i couldn't, these things you're saying are crazy.
The quran says that the world was created in 6 days, which when compared to the fact of the big bang which shows how many billions of years it took for the world to be created. It Is kind of like saying that it takes 30 minutes and not 9 months for a baby to be born.
If you don't believe in evolution or the big bang then you need to know 2 things:
1.Science is true no matter if you believe in it or not- If you still don't realise you're wrong for not believing in science here is a website to help you understand that evolution and the big bang theories are true
Let me prove to you that islam is not a religion of peace:
Part 1. Violent verses:"Fight against those who do not obey Allah and do not believe in Allah or the Last Day and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and His messenger even though they are of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya With willing submissions and feel themselves subdued" surah 9 verse 29
“When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them. Capture them. Besiege them. Lie in wait for them in each and every ambush but if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give zacat then leave their way free.” surah 9 verse 5
“They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” surah 2 verse 217
“Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” Surah 2 verse 191
“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” Surah 47 verse 4 (smite means cut, so this means that when you will meet the unbelievers, cut their necks)
“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” Surah 8 verse 12
“Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” surah 9 verse 123
“Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow Him are merciful to one another but harsh to the disbeliever.” Surah 48 verse 29
“They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, don’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”Surah 4 verse 89
Part 2. Verses against equality
Sexist verses:
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one superior to the other and because they spend to support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are obedient and they guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard. And, as to those women from whom you fear disobedience, give them a warning, send them to separate beds, and beat them.” Surah 4 verse 34
"Women are mens "fields," and men can have sex with them whenever they want" Surah 2 verse 223
"A woman is worth one-half of a man, and men are above women" Surah 4 verse 11, Surah 2 verse 282 ans Surah 2 verse 228
"Muslim men may marry up to 4 wives, including prepubecent girls, and can own sex slaves" Surah 4 verse 3, Surah 65 verse 4
"Women must cover themselves and be seen only by relatives, eunuchs, slaves and children who have not yet had sex with women" Surah 24 verse 31
Homophobic verses:
"And (We sent) Lot when he said to his people: What! do you commit an indecency which any one in the world has not done before you? Most surely you come to males in lust besides females; nay you are an extravagant people. And the answer of his people was no other than that they said: Turn them out of your town, surely they are a people who seek to purify (themselves). So We delivered him and his followers, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind. And We rained upon them a rain; consider then what was the end of the guilty." Surah 7 verses 80-84
"And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them. And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful."surah 4 verse 15-16
Now do you understand why I'm angry?
Because muslims say that the quran and islam are perfect but look at this.And the punishment for leaving islam is death:
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/apostasy.aspx
research has shown (you can google this) that 88% of Muslims in Egypt and 62% of Muslims in Pakistan favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim religion.
So basically a lot of Muslims want me dead.
So don't tell me don't attack islam when a lot of Muslims want to kill me.
If you don't agree with me then please just explain calmly and in a way i can understand
P.S. I'm 99% sure that all of the verses i mentioned are not taken out of context or not translated correctly. But even if you think that 1 or 2 are taken out of context or not translated correctly, it doesn't matter because the rest of the verses are not
And if anybody changed their minds after reading this,tell me because i would like to know. ( :
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Islam is being used by some very influental globalist groups as a scarecrow in public so that NATO would seemingly have an enemy and by that a reason to still exist...
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@muslim islam isnt a religion of terrorism, dont blame it on them, its those brainwash dumbos
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@totenkopf said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:
Islam is being used by some very influental globalist groups as a scarecrow in public so that NATO would seemingly have an enemy and by that a reason to still exist...
