this is a ...disturbing topic, care to shed some background? any time of violence or abuse is not tolerated here or in person
Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?
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@how-to-make-a said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:
surah 4 verse 24
regarding Surah 4 verse 24, there is nowhere concept or written in Quran to have sex slaves, you are using wrong verses.
see this https://quran.com/4/24
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@emily He meant Sura 4, verse 34. A simple mistake.
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@julia No Julia I am taking about his reply where he said and quoted "men can treat wife as their fields and can have them as sex slaves"
This is wrong! There IS NOT VERSE which says that anywhere!
Adultery , rape, suicide and ALL BAD things are forbidden in islam. Use common sense. Those people who do terrorist attacks and do sucide ARE NOT MUSLIMS at all! Islam forbids Suicide!
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@emily maybe i did an error but i don't think so. Even if i did, you can't justify all of the sexist verses.
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@bobbys-noona so you're saying that if for example you're wife stops following the word of Allah by stopping to be a Muslim or showing her face to a stranger then You should be allowed to hit her. That's fucked up
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@bobbys-noona @julia @how-to-make-a the words are mistakenly translated in english.
it says strike them out of your house if they disobey you. It does not instruct to stirke them or beat them. The guys have have made the english translation have used the wrong words.See this and read misconception here: http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/beating_women_(P1179).html
Prophet Muhammad said , "The best of man are those who are best with their wives" He never instructed or permitted men hitting their wifes"
If I consider something illogical i wouldn't believe it. But here it all makes sense, it is not advising to hit your wife which I'd never do in any case being a muslim.bolded text****bolded text
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@emily yeah. I meant surah 4 verse 34. My mistake
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@emily By the way. It doesn't matter if 1 verse i showd was not real. I wrote down the locations of a lot of sexist verses that you can find.
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@how-to-make-a I have just corrected your misconception about 2 so far.
Sex slavery.
Beating wife.I will prove them all to you whatever you consider violent and sexist :)
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@emily lololololololoooloolololll. The site you showed me said that it's ok because what it actually means is beat them (lightly)
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In the quran it doesn't have "(slightly)" written. How do i know this? Because i have a quran in my hand right now, lol.
So no @Emily , you didn't correct my misconception. And don't forget that I'm an ex-muslim who speaks fluent Arabic so you won't be able to convince me that the verses don't mean what they actually mean
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@how-to-make-a Oh u r such a clueless soul!
The quran which you have in your hand is again transalted in english by normal humans like you who can make mistakes. I told you clearly its wrong word used while translation, read the conclusion ending paragraph before making judgements.
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@emily HAHAHAHAHA. Did you read the edited comment. I have an arabic quran in my hand honey you won't be able to convince me that the verses don't actually mean what they mean.
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@emily you're the one reading someones explination of the verse and I'm the one reading the verse from a real arabic quran. Lol. The websites you're looking at are lies. Go get the quran which is in your house and read from there
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@emily
That's me.P.S. "idrubuhunn" means "Hit them" in arabic and the website you're looking at is bullshit
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one superior to the other and because they spend to support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are obedient and they guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard. And, as to those women from whom you fear disobedience, give them a warning, send them to separate beds, and beat them.” is the correct translation to english and the website you're looking at is saying non-sense. Go get your quran and read it for yourself.
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@emily what. Did you give up?
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@emily go get your quran and go through your quran and read the verses i quoted. If you somehow found a way to justify the verses that clearly order muslims to cut off heads and fingers, the verses that clearly order muslims to kill gays, THEN Tell me about your justifications.
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@bobbys-noona u right
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@Emily there is no point in talking with him . he know the quran more than u do .but he chose not to follow . i tried with him before now we are out of the context of the topic ... he will alway tell you about bittin women and homos and kill the non believer. i want you to know that :
1 - there is nothing about homo sexuality in quran.
2 - we was told to kill the unbelievers cuz they use to kill and slave muslim .so w've been giving the order to defend our self ... that law was active back then we it was war time and its not now ... its forbidden to hurt any human and he know so.
@how-to-make-a didn't god say . if u killed one soul without a reason its like killing the hole humanity ?
3 - about women i think miss @bobbys-noona made it clear .
finely i think both of you (@Emily - @bobbys-noona ) for helping make the world a bteer place . thnk you. -
@Emily
Go get the quran and read it for yourself if you don't believe that the verses I'm quoting are actually there. P.S. don't listen to @Muslim because he's crazy [i already explained why. Because he doesn't believe in modern science, he thinks that being gay is unnatural even though it is genetic (i sent him a video of a science show explaining that being gay is genetic, you can find the video if you go through my comments).....]. So just read the verses i quoted and think for yourself, @Muslim is telling you not to go and search for the verses in your quran because i already showed him verse 4 surah 15-16 which says that gays deserve to die and he realised that the verses I'm quoting are actually in the quran and I'm not just making them up so he doesn't want you to see them. Like i said, go get your quran and read the verses i quoted and then tell me what you think? :)And also @Muslim saying that the verses are justifiable because they only apply in war times doesn't make any sense because a moral god would never command such horrible things
