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Do you believe the death penalty is fair?
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@thestrangest yhea but there are also people who are so broken that they can just never be fixed. what would you do then if you let them go they will do it again and youre back where you started. if you put them in a psyke wark its basicly a death penalty then.
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@jensens said in Do you believe the death penalty is fair?:
@thestrangest yhea but there are also people who are so broken that they can just never be fixed.
So you kill them? Why not kill all mentally ill people in asylums who are staying there forever having their families come visit them once a month?
what would you do then if you let them go they will do it again and youre back where you started
That's why there is something called.... the life sentence for people who are deemed unfit for rehabilitation
if you put them in a psychiatric ward its basicly a death penalty then.
No it's a life sentence, you aren't shortening their life span
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@thestrangest in your previeus post you said locking people up forever was techicaly a death penalty.
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@jensens you said they'd starve to death, or did i not read that correctly?
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@jensens oh you just were not clear
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@thestrangest o i am sorry i did not mean starve to death. there are poelple that see that as a death penalty locking somoine up till they die i dont realy think it is.
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@jensens well most people who murder, do it to a specific person for a specific reason so unless they just kill who ever, they should have access to other people in prison so their life span will not get shorter. But otherwise yeah that was just a misunderstanding
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@jensens you also said psyke wark instead of psychiatric ward along with lots of other errors, you can't blame me for the misunderstanding lol, sorry.
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@thestrangest yeah i want realy talking about people that kill with a reason. altho the reason never justifies the action i was talking about people that just kill becous they can and want. sorry for the bad english autocorrect is killing me i speak dutch normaly. could we talk more in chat i like your point of view.
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@jensens there is no difference between the 2, the result is the same and the penalty should be the same except for the "to put isolated cell or not? That is the question" part
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@thestrangest i do think there is a differance between with and withour a reason. if hypotheticaly somone kills his daughter and gets free becouse of an error in court and the father kills the guy who killed his daughter or just somoine who killed this guys daughter just becous he felth like it.
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@jensens said in Do you believe the death penalty is fair?:
@thestrangest i do think there is a differance between with and without a reason. if hypotheticaly somone kills his daughter, gets freed because of an error in court and the father kills the guy who killed his daughter or just somone who killed this guys daughter just because he felt like it.
What are you even trying to say do?
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@jensens the father killed a guy that was trying to kill the guy that killed his daughter?
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@thestrangest no ,so this guy let call him peter kills a girl lets cal her abby ( peter kills abby just becouse she happend to be near hil when he decided he wanted to kill somoine) and peter goes to court to be punished ofr killing abby. but somoine made an errer while handeling the case he goes free (happens in belgium a lot) so the father of abby called roger decides he can not deal with peter just walking away and not getting punished so roger goes out to kill peter.
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@jensens said in Do you believe the death penalty is fair?:
@thestrangest no ,so this guy lets call him peter kills a girl lets call her Abby ( peter kills Abby just because she happend to be near him when he decided he wanted to kill someone) and Peter goes to court to be punished for killing Abby. but someone made an error while handeling the case and he goes free (happens in belgium a lot) so the father of Abby called Roger decides he can not deal with Peter just walking away and not getting punished so roger goes out to kill Peter.
And he kills Peter... yeah that's wrong but i guess since it is unlikely that he'll kill someone else the penalty shouldn't be that severe, like between 1 and 5 years in Jail or however much it is necessary for people to understand that they should leave these kinds of things to the law
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@thestrangest yhea but thats the problem the law failed. so why would he think after 5 years i sould have left it to the law hen the law just let him go becouse the date on one of the documents was wrong.
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@jensens because if everyone took the law into their own hands that would be Anarchy, hell, so to avoid that there should be no exceptions but a system put in place where you yourself can even sue the judge(that's how it is in the states).
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@jensens this is a harder topic. I began talking about the death penalty being justified or nit and now I'm at whatever this is
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@thestrangest dont you like a hard topic? i think is the death penalty fair is a pretty hard topic too.
In belgium you can not sue a judge. a judge can not be prosecuted for mistakes or misjudgemen. there are other things you can do but i dont have the words for it in english. -
@jensens no it's just that I'm a philosophy geek, this started off more philosophical and now it is more political and judicial so i have 0 experience with dis. The amount of time a person should serve is hard to approximate...
well then you should then try to change your gouvernment, protest or something like that in that case
