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Is god real? Your thoughts
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@kdkid said in Is god real? Your thoughts:
All of it is true if you read the Bible it tell u all of the mearicals hod did and it shows you how awesome and powerful he is. God always keep his promises like in the Bible it tells u about how god fluded the earth. It says that after it rains there is a rainbow that’s God’s promise that he will never floud the earth again.
Look here. There is most defenitely no god or any supernaturak mumbo jumbo.
1st the truth is not a matter of opinion
2nd thing, you do not have proof that the bible was written/commanded to be written by a god THEREFORE until there is evidence there is no good reason to believe in such BS. There is no good reason to believe in a god and of course faith which by définition a belief without evidence is useless thing and should never be used, why you ask?Well let's start by talking about faith.
i didn't chose to be an atheist it happened because i say no sufficient evidence behind the religious claims, if there was evidence i would believe and of course faith is not a reliable pathway to truth since it can lead you to true and wrong conclusions with incredible inaccuracy so using it is useless.Any way i have proof that the Bible is Sexist, Violent... and that it's unlikely that an invisible man in the sky commanded its writting, My proof is that an all loving, all good god wouldn't have ordered man to write down all of these things in his book:
SEXISM
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
“Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)
HOMOPHOBIA
“In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)
VIOLENCE AND SADOMASOCHISM(loving a person you feer):
“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)
“Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)
“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)
“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)
“And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)
‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)
SLAVERY
Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.
Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word “servant”, “bondservant”, or “manservant” instead of “slave” to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is. While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn’t mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.
The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?
The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and has sex with them!
What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong.
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
And these are just a couple of verses
P.S. usually after i show a Christian these verses he tells me that it doesn't matter because most of these are in the old testament, well the 10 commandments are also in the old testament so do you also not want the 10 commandements? And by the way, there are no scenarios where a just and all good god would say “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” or “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” or “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” and a lot of other verses. And if you are going to say that you don't believe in these verses because they are in the old testament (by the way there are verses i mentioned outside the old testament but k) you'd have to say that you also don't believe in the 10 commandments since they are also in the old testament
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Yeah yeah u a lie
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@kdkid said in Is god real? Your thoughts:
Yeah yeah u a lie
You don't find it strange how those of us who don't believe have proof to back it up and all of you that do believe have nothing except a book?
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@miamarie98 They can believe what they want. I don't believe in it either but this is a very picky topic that generally upsets people. Soooo just stay out of it
MJ
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@topics27 hello how are you
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@girlnextdoor
No it’s not because the book is real that’s why it’s called the Bible. Just to let u know when god comes down on earth to take all the people who believe in he y’all will stay here. And we that’s not a good thing because when god comes down the place called earth will turn into hell you well burn forever and then u huy are going to regret not believing in him -
@miranda21 said in Is god real? Your thoughts:
@miamarie98 They can believe what they want. I don't believe in it either but this is a very picky topic that generally upsets people. Soooo just stay out of it
You don't believe in either?
Excuse me.
Option A. There is a god
Option B. There is not a godWhich one do you believe in?
Neither? Well what's the 3rd option
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@kdkid said in Is god real? Your thoughts:
@girlnextdoor
No it’s not because the book is real that’s why it’s called the Bible.Oh sure. Harry potter books are proof of the existence of voldimort too.
Just to let u know when god comes down on earth to take all the people who believe in he y’all will stay here.
Got any proof for that? No? Oh well i call BS
And we that’s not a good thing because when god comes down the place called earth will turn into hell you well burn forever and then u huy are going to regret not believing in him
Oh wow. Let me explain this shit to you asshole
Well let's start by talking about faith.
i didn't CHOSE to be an atheist it happened because i say no sufficient evidence behind the religious claims, if there was evidence i would believe (By the way why would a god create a world where he knows all the choices everyone is going to make and then punish them for it even though they don't have any choice to do differently from what he already knew they were gonna do? That's evil. That's an asshole thing to do and anybody who worships this concept of evil is as morally bankrupt as it.) and of course faith is not a reliable pathway to truth since it can lead you to true and wrong conclusions with incredible inaccuracy so using it is useless. -
@thestrangest
Yeah whatever ur a fucking Atheist -
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@thestrangest
U don’t get it -
God is real.
- Most Powerful God
- Worship him
- Savior
I look at my life and there seems to be a discrepancy between what God promises in the Bible and reality. I pray and ask questions like:
Are you there God?
Should I do A or B or something else?
Would you make Yourself real to me?
Do You really have a plan for my life? If so, WTF is going on?
I do my best to listen for an answer and pay attention but I don't hear anything. After experiencing silence for some time, I'm tired of depending on what appears to be an absentee God. And I don't trust God enough to give Him the benefit of the doubt by waiting around and wait for a plan that may or may not unfold.
Is it reasonable to not have any expectations of God and just be pleasantly surprised if He should pull through? Is prayer without expectation of an answer even worth doing? Should I pull a Moses and just do my own thing for a few decades?
At this point, I'm so sick of struggling, living in uncertainty, and being disappointed all the time, I'm ready to throw in the towel and live a de facto atheistic existence and just walk away.
P.S. This is a throwaway account.Jesus spoke to the people once more and said, "I am the light of the world. If you follow me, you won't have to walk in darkness, because you will have the light that leads to life."
11“No one, Lord.” she answered. “Neither do I condemn you.” Jesus declared. “Now go and sin no more.” 12Once again, Jesus spoke to the people and said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me will never walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.” 13So the Pharisees said to Him, “You are testifying about Yourself; Your testimony is not valid.”…
New International Version
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."New Living Translation
Jesus spoke to the people once more and said, "I am the light of the world. If you follow me, you won't have to walk in darkness, because you will have the light that leads to life."English Standard Version
Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”Berean Study Bible
Once again, Jesus spoke to the people and said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me will never walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life."Berean Literal Bible
Therefore Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. The one following Me shall not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life."New American Standard Bible
Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life."King James Bible
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.Holman Christian Standard Bible
Then Jesus spoke to them again: "I am the light of the world. Anyone who follows Me will never walk in the darkness but will have the light of life."International Standard Version
Later on, Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."NET Bible
Then Jesus spoke out again, "I am the light of the world. The one who follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."New Heart English Bible
Again, therefore, Jesus spoke to them, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life."Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And Yeshua spoke again with them and he said: “I AM THE LIVING GOD, The Light of the world. Whoever follows me shall not walk in darkness but shall find the light of life.”GOD'S WORD® Translation
Jesus spoke to the Pharisees again. He said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will have a life filled with light and will never live in the dark."New American Standard 1977
Again therefore Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.”Jubilee Bible 2000
Then Jesus spoke again unto them, saying, I AM the light of the world; he that follows me shall not walk in darkness but shall have the light of life.King James 2000 Bible
Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.American King James Version
Then spoke Jesus again to them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.American Standard Version
Again therefore Jesus spake unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.Douay-Rheims Bible
Again therefore, Jesus spoke to them, saying: I am the light of the world: he that followeth me, walketh not in darkness, but shall have the light of life.Darby Bible Translation
Again therefore Jesus spoke to them, saying, I am the light of the world; he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.English Revised Version
Again therefore Jesus spake unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.Webster's Bible Translation
Then Jesus spoke again to them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.Weymouth New Testament
Once more Jesus addressed them. "I am the Light of the world," He said; "the man who follows me shall certainly not walk in the dark, but shall have the light of Life."World English Bible
Again, therefore, Jesus spoke to them, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life."Young's Literal Translation
Again, therefore, Jesus spake to them, saying, 'I am the light of the world; he who is following me shall not walk in the darkness, but he shall have the light of the life.'Matthew 5:14
You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden.John 1:4
In Him was life, and that life was the light of men.John 3:19
And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness more than light, because their deeds were evil.John 9:5
While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."John 12:35
So Jesus told them, "For a little while longer, the Light will be among you. Walk while you have the Light, so that darkness will not overtake you. The one who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going.John 12:36
While you have the Light, believe in the Light, so that you may become sons of light." After Jesus had spoken these things, He went away and hid Himself from them.John 12:46
I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in Me should remain in darkness.1 John 1:6
If we say we have fellowship with Him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
Treasury of Scripture
Then spoke Jesus again to them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.I am.
John 1:4-9 In him was life; and the life was the light of men…
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, …
John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
John 12:35 Then Jesus said to them, Yet a little while is the light with you. …
Isaiah 9:2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they …
Isaiah 42:6,7 I the LORD have called you in righteousness, and will hold your hand, …
Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that you should be my servant to …
Isaiah 60:1-3 Arise, shine; for your light is come, and the glory of the LORD is …
Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth …
Malachi 4:2 But to you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise …
Matthew 4:14-16 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying…
Luke 1:78,79 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on …
Luke 2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of your people Israel.
Acts 13:47 For so has the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set you to be a …
Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should …
shall not.John 12:35,46 Then Jesus said to them, Yet a little while is the light with you. …
Psalm 18:28 For you will light my candle: the LORD my God will enlighten my darkness.
Psalm 97:11 Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.
Isaiah 50:10 Who is among you that fears the LORD, that obeys the voice of his …
2 Peter 2:4,17 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down …
Jude 1:6,13 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their …
shall have.John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether …
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man …
Job 33:28 He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall …
Psalm 49:19 He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light.
Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of …Luke 22:64
They blindfolded Him and kept demanding, "Prophesy! Who hit You?"John 5:31
If I testify about Myself, My testimony is not valid.
Treasury of Scripture
The Pharisees therefore said to him, You bore record of yourself; your record is not true.Thou.
John 5:31-47 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true…
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@stella_clarke
Thanks for backing me up 😂 these people don’t believe me -
@kdkid People with a working brain shouldn't believe you because it's simply illogical to think a 'God' spawned out of nowhere to create everything
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@miamarie98
Guess what he did so, it not like two planets crashed into each other and BAM 💥 there’s earth 🌏 the scientist fucking lie to u that’s like everybody voting for Hillary Clinton even though trump is better they use u for ur money. There is a reason why we are here because Jesus died on the cross for our sin if he didn’t love us we would all I mean every single person on this planet would be in hell burning for 7 years. The Bible says the people who don’t believe in god would stay on earth also known as hell and burn for 7 year and then the earth would be gone. So let’s end this fight and you will see. I pray that god comes to you and changes you from the inside out. Hope y’all have a good day I’m glad you believe what you want but what I’m saying is ture. But as we all know we are all human and seeing is believing. The conversation is officially over. -
@kdkid The conversation isn't over until you tell me how your God got there in the first place. You are yet to explain that along with everyone else who believes the same thing. Nice touch bringing politics into this by the way. That literally had nothing to do with anything. For someone who wants to "end" a conversation you sure seemed wanting to spark a new one that's even more picky than this.
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@miamarie98
Yeah I know the whole politics this was fucking dope I was trying to be nice.
😂 because I’m fucking dope but I mean do what u want u not going to bring me down you can do it over and over again but it ain’t gonna work.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m laughing sooo hard about your comment you know what I say to haters I say nothing because there’s a reason why they are called haters because they hate on people 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’ll tell you what u need to know that what you wanna know -
@kdkid Thank you for proving me right. I didn't think you had an explanation. Just like the rest! lmao! Well done. Now, the conversation is over. Or is it? You said that last time and came back as expected.
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@miamarie98
It says genesis chapter 1 in the beginning: god created the heavens and the universe the earth was formless and empty filled with darkness and the spirit of god was hovering of the waters and god said let there be light and there was light and god saw that it was good. And god said let there be a vault that separates the water from water and so it happened and god saw that it was good. And once god was done creating the earth he created Adam and eve and gave them everything they could possibly want. And then the devil made them do bad things all because Eve ate the fruit from the forbidden tree that was the first sin but the loving god give up his one and only son to die for our sins -
@kdkid See you're not reading or not comprehending or something. I don't care what he created, I care what created him... Please... for the love of your God.... read carefully.
