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Can People Change?
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@alkal33 changing the shape doesn't change the art on it, the way changing your hair color doesn't change your personality. So yes, I think it is still "you"
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@Lurker Well what defines a persons personality? what are the parts that absolutely cant change?
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@ScarlettOH entirely or partially ?
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@Saloniii what if they change for the better?
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@Wolfie_11 said in Can People Change?:
@TheGoldenMole
Ofcourse they can. Its never too late to change. Change is the only constant.
We often see movie actors undergoing a change for different roles not just physically, but also mentally to completely submerge themselves in the character. Or we hear people saying that a relationship, friendship or break-up totally changed them. The thing about the world is that you need to change. It always has been and will be the survival of the fittest.....If you can't change and adapt yourself to the changes around you, you wouldn't be able to survive.I personally believe in always evolving and you can only evolve if you change and you can only change if you learn. I'm a totally different guy from what I was say about 10 years ago. I have always believed in changing. If somebody meets me after an year or two and says that "You're still the same"... it feels like an insult. It seems to me that I haven't learned much in the last year and I consider that as wastage of precious time aka failure. So there is no limit to changing yourself if you've the will to change and act upon it. Its fun being limitless and constantly pushing the boundaries.
This was refreshing and I like your view. When an actor does change roles though, do you think that is similar to us changing personalities? As in, do you think it is as easy for us to change our personalities as easy as it is for them to create one and live as one for a show or movie?
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@Captain Do you think a serial that has committed countless of murders and hate crimes could change?
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@TheGoldenMole said in Can People Change?:
@Lurker Well what defines a persons personality? what are the parts that absolutely cant change?
A sore loser for example, no matter how many times he loses he'll remain a sore loser, he won't learn to be graceful in his defeat, cuz it's something instinct-ish. All he can do is learn to control it to let's say, not blame it on others for his loss when that wasn't the case, if we are talking about team based game.
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@Wolfie_11 Now, y'see, this is the polar opposite of my thinking. I'm all about continuity. Change, ambition -to my mind, these things can be achieved by anyone, with very little effort. In my experience, the most valuable wisdom you accrue over time doesn't really change you in any discernible way, it's just there as a background vibe, as if the world, other people, everything that happens to you, everything you want, that's Bill Grundy trying to interview you. But your mind, that's the Sex Pistols, and the whole thing is so painfully mundane you can't even be bothered to be cheeky any more.
Friendly neighborhood gobshyne.
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@Lurker said in Can People Change?:
@TheGoldenMole said in Can People Change?:
@Lurker Well what defines a persons personality? what are the parts that absolutely cant change?
A sore loser for example, no matter how many times he loses he'll remain a sore loser, he won't learn to be graceful in his defeat, cuz it's something instinct-ish. All he can do is learn to control it to let's say, not blame it on others for his loss when that wasn't the case, if we are talking about team based game.
I think I am going to have to disagree with this one. I understand your point, but perhaps you used a wrong example or maybe this entire perspective is wrong. because I, as an ex sore loser, used to hate losing. Especially because I'm fairly talented in a lot of things, losing just isn't something I'm used to. However, I am able to view games as just games, whether I win or lose, I don't care anymore. I just like having fun and I don't care about the end point, just the experience. I am living proof of what you don't think people can change. So with that, do you now think people can change? Or do you still believe your view to be true and this just happened to be a coincidence ?😂
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@Indrid-Cold Do you think you've changed in your life?
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@TheGoldenMole The last time my personality noticeably changed was about 15 years ago, owing to a mucky love affair, and even then not by much. My social status and earning power longer still. Why do you ask, m8?
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@Indrid-Cold Dunno, I find human change interesting. Some people change drastically and some people don't change at all, I just want to know why and how this happens. What does it say about the people who change easily? What does it say about the people who don't?
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Damn, teach me how did you do that? I've been a sore loser for so long and all I managed is to not take it on my team-mates :joy:
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@Lurker when I win or when I loose there is no difference. The only difference is you get to say "I won" or "I lost" the same game is being played and the fun is still the same. Its just one word that changes things, literally just a word. Being upset by a loss is only because you have too much pride, which is something you have to push aside to see the bigger picture, to see what really matters. Saying " I won" or "I lost" doesn't matter, saying "I played" does. That's how I got over it anyway, hope this helps, no one likes a sore loser 😂
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@TheGoldenMole I guess that is interesting. The obvious answer would be that people who change too capriciously are being played like fiddles by peer-pressure, or the almighty £, or some kinda weird psychology. Maybe, now that we're all living such sedate lives, evolution is getting royally frunked up viz-a-viz our intellectual development and social status, and housewives think they can be business people, and no teenager will consider getting a job unless someone makes it feel like long-term, specialist training by calling it 'an apprenticeship', and Twitter exists, and MPs devise ever more elaborate, posterity-chasing public expenditure projects, even though we're still running a vast deficit and our bedrock economy is based on nothing.
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@TheGoldenMole People change people.
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@INFINITY You don't think someone can change on their own ?
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@TheGoldenMole nope they ll not change for better :joy:
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@TheGoldenMole
If you have a lot of free time to read about and talk to a person who you want to be like.. without having to worry about money.. then yes, its easy just like the actors do. And mind you, creating a personality is not that easy for even an actor. They try to adjust to that role by living in the conditions that the character is supposed to live. They adopt their mentality, even though for a short while, and their speech patterns and try to think like the character. You see.. Mind is a very powerful thing. It goes the way you want it to go unless it goes berserk and goes in its own way. So actors have to control their minds to get deeply into a role. However, some people are just like that in real life aka Robert Downey Jr. starring as Tony Stark and some people just give into the demand and lose their mind aka (arguably) Lt. Heath Ledger starring as The Joker.P.S.- Acting is an under-rated art. You can’t just get into an intense role just like that. You have to prepare yourself mentally, physically and verbally(to say dialogues). Changing your personality in real life is much simpler as you do not have a set pattern of attributes to follow.
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@Indrid-Cold
I think its quite natural to oppose the changes as most of us like to be in the comfort zone. And though I partially agree with the fact that most of the wisdom acquired doesn’t change you, however, the fact that we acquire more knowledge and wisdom with time is the change. And you always have the option of forcing the change if the surroundings become too mundane.I think that our advanced intellectual capability should be used to produce a change and spice up the life a bit than doing the same regular things or else what difference will their be between man and machines?
