Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
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What do you think what could help us people to regain hope or not give up in the first place? Personally I'd say the type of people those are sympathetic and never talk around your back and got a lot of patience. I do not mean the professional people who do this for a living.
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@rex i agree as those type of people are like modern day healers and best people to be friends with
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@rex I don't mean to sound negative, but as a person who was recently diagnosed with severe depression because of being bullied my whole life, I believe there's not much hope left. If you look at where our society has gone and where it's heading things will just keep getting worse and suicide will become a normal thing.
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@boujee-babe Although I do agree that looking at the direction the society is headed, things would get worse and suicide would become more frequent, I don't think that there's no hope left. People could be helped. They could be saved. It depends on the person. For some people, a companion is all that's needed and for some people, a more serious therapy is all needed. We should not lose hope. All around me I'm seeing people committing suicide along with people getting helped. Life's not black and white. Just don't lose hope.
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@sir-devil ive been sent to a mental hospital ive been through counciling ive tried everything and nothing has changed i still wish i could just end it but i havent
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@boujee-babe I'm sorry for you and hope the best for you. I do hope that your life would get better. That's all that we can do. Hope for the best and move forward. We don't know what our future holds. For many, it works out in their favor. So, no matter what we can only endure it an move on because suicide is not the end.
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@Boujee-Babe and @Sir-Devil can you justify your belief that humanity is heading towards the worst. I would love to understand your perspectives since i feel like humanity can only improve from here
In either way we can all take something from this guy:
@girlwhois16 This is my favourite comedian and my 3rd favourite philosopher. . The guy i was watching this morning. I have watched 99% of his material and have all his books
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@thestrangest We would be achieving more and more technological advancement but most probably the mental health would go down. It's been the pattern.
https://www.befrienders.org/suicide-statistics
http://www.familyaware.org/who-2017-depression-report/
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/statisticsStatistics would not lie. Unless something great happens, the patterns just going to continue. It's due to a multitude of factors. Some of the factors like increasing cost of living, population density, and increased competition could not be changed. Particularly the increasing population density is really bad. Just take a look at countries like South Korea and Japan which has one of the highest amounts of population density. The increase in the competition which had brought about an increase in expectation has resulted in it having one of the highest suicidal rates.
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@thestrangest I accord with him except how he says that saving the planet isn't important. Yes, I understand the need to save ourselves before anything else. The planet evolves yes, I know. And even in the worst condition, it's going to renew, maybe even better than before. But the kind of harm that we're causing it isn't about the planet anymore. It's now about the population that thrives here. How can we not care about that? Yes, we are all on the highway to Death but who doesn't want to live a little longer? (Even the guy wishes to live a thousand years more) And by saving the planet by just doing our small bit, we can (I'm not sure but giving it a try won't hurt?).
Also, it's not an argument that I'm starting. .
Trust me, I can very well contradict my own opinions. I'm just the one to look at possibilities, even if there are a million of them. -
@sir-devil makes sense but technological advancement means improvement of human civilization. We're eventually going interstellar most likely in the 21st century and that's going to be great.
Genetic modification is getting easier by the second and we'd eventually be able to improve physical and mental health since a lot of the time genetic factors play into that too and just having a better level of hormonal balance caused by better physical health would help.
Scientists are working to make the average human lifespan(most likely the average financially well-off human lifespan) reach 1000 and they're saying that the first person to live to 1000/ be able to live to 1000 has most likely already been born.
https://www.google.fr/amp/s/futurism.com/aging-expert-person-1000-born/amp/
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@girlwhois16 said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:
@thestrangest I accord with him except how he says that saving the planet isn't important. Yes, I understand the need to save ourselves before anything else. The planet evolves yes, I know. And even in the worst condition, it's going to renew, maybe even better than before.
I wonder how you are going to follow this up
But the kind of harm that we're causing it isn't about the planet anymore. It's now about the population that thrives here. How can we not care about that?
You mean the species on earth.
You mean the 99% of all species that have ever lived are extinct. We didn't kill them all
Yes, we are all on the highway to Death but who doesn't want to live a little longer? (Even the guy wishes to live a thousand years more) And by saving the planet by just doing our small bit, we can (I'm not sure but giving it a try won't hurt?).
I think i already answered this in my previous post
Also, it's not an argument that I'm starting. .
It can become one
Trust me, I can very well contradict my own opinions. I'm just the one to look at possibilities, even if there are a million of them.
He was making a reference to one of his bits. Not actually performing it. You should wztch it to understand what he was saying
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@thestrangest What you are saying is assumptions and speculation. It's not confirmed that it could happen. When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported. Yes, we could be enhanced using Genetic modification but what if, they massively fuck up. Hell, what if we end up in a post-apocalyptic world with no future. Or more realistically, what if no one gives permission to utilize it and some end up doing it which in turns causes the general populace to hate it. Are you sure such things won't happen? What if we never attain interstellar? What if we achieve but it not good and really stressful with a class-based hierarchy? It's more likely to happen than anything.
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@thestrangest and technological advancement doesn't necessarily mean the improvement of human civilization.
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@sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:
@thestrangest What you are saying is assumptions and speculation.
Maybe but most of what i mentioned will definitely happen. Isn't that improvement in many ways
It's not confirmed that it could happen.
Let's see. The trip to mars will 100% happen if we don't go extinct before the end of the 22nd century. Aging will definitely be solved at most by the 23d century because improvements in the search to cure aging are really fast. The ways of Genetic modification have already been created we just need practice. What's left
When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported. Yes, we could be enhanced using Genetic modification but what if, they massively fuck up.
I doubt that's very likely just because it takes a lot of tests to get a pass to test on humans or finally make genetic modification widespread
Hell, what if we end up in a post-apocalyptic world with no future.
AI might do that. But my argument is that i don't think things are more likely to go to shit at least because we're definitely going interstellar.
Or more realistically, what if no one gives permission to utilize it and some end up doing it which in turns causes the general populace to hate it.
Religious bullshit might cause that in the US and other religious countries but not every country and when it gets widespread in non-religious countries it will eventually spread to religious ones. This is if religion doesn't generally disappear in the future.
Are you sure such things won't happen?
They're unlikely. Being f'd by AI is much more likely
What if we never attain interstellar?
It will most likely happen by the end of the 21st century. SpaceX and nasa are planning on reaching mars by 2025
What if we achieve but it not good and really stressful with a class-based hierarchy?
That would still be better than being stuck on earth. Who cares about this possibility. Class gaps do not annoy me aslong as everyone gets the basics like a house, food, education and Internet.
It's more likely to happen than anything.
Yeh we are differently going to mars
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@sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:
@thestrangest and technological advancement doesn't necessarily mean the improvement of human civilization.
True but it does 99% of the time. Since technology involves everything used from cognitive science, earth/space science, computer science, médecin...
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Yeh we are differently going to mars
It's been a minute and I can't stop laughing at this one.
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@girlwhois16 why
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@thestrangest Explaining a joke doesn't keep the humour going.
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@girlwhois16 sure
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@thestrangest Going to mars doesn't mean interstellar and mars is not a viable place to survive. It's not going to be good option to live there.
Just look at your statement and see how many times you have used the words "Likely". It shows that they are not confirmed to happen. Then what are you arguing against? I said,
When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported.
They're unlikely. Being f'd by AI is much more likely
Why are they unlikely? Are you sure about the probability? Are you suggesting that you have something that supports your belief that those are unlikely?
Who cares about this possibility
How many dystopian novels have you read? If such class hierarchy is going to exist, common people won't most probably get enough of their basic needs.