If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists)

[SUmof1]

@thestrangest said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest (")"It's not that we have a short time to live, but that we waste
much of it. Life is long enough, and it's been given to us in generous measure for accomplishing the greatest things, if the whole of it is well invested." - Seneca the younger(4BC-65AD)(") Cringe.

You wouldn't know wisdom if it came on your face, kek.

Can you read this back to yourself

[TheStrangest]

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest and i only read fiction and books on dark books

"And books on dark books"

Good to know

[SUmof1]

@thestrangest dark books is a website

[SUmof1]

@thestrangest nub

[TheStrangest]

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest (")"It's not that we have a short time to live, but that we waste
much of it. Life is long enough, and it's been given to us in generous measure for accomplishing the greatest things, if the whole of it is well invested." - Seneca the younger(4BC-65AD)(") Cringe.

You wouldn't know wisdom if it came on your face, kek.

Can you read this back to yourself

Jigga my dad has a PhD in PHILOSOPHY and i read many PHILOSOPHICAL books. Philosophy comes from the greek words φίλος(pronounced philos, meaning love) and σοφία(pronounced sofia, meaning wisdom). Philosophy is literally the love of wisdom

If you didn't understand

Φιλοσοφία(pronounced philosophia) is the product of those 2 and is the word philosophy in greek

[TheStrangest]

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest dark books is a website

Oh sorry. When i download books they're from the deep web

[TheStrangest]

@thestrangest said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest (")"It's not that we have a short time to live, but that we waste
much of it. Life is long enough, and it's been given to us in generous measure for accomplishing the greatest things, if the whole of it is well invested." - Seneca the younger(4BC-65AD)(") Cringe.

You wouldn't know wisdom if it came on your face, kek.

Can you read this back to yourself

Jigga my dad has a PhD in PHILOSOPHY and i read many PHILOSOPHICAL books. Philosophy comes from the greek words φίλος(pronounced philos, meaning love) and σοφία(pronounced sofia, meaning wisdom). Philosophy is literally the love of wisdom

If you didn't understand

Φιλοσοφία(pronounced philosophia) is the product of those 2 and is the word philosophy in greek

Incase you couldn't figure it out yourself

Φιλοσοφία(φίλος + σοφία) is the greek word for philosophy

[GirlNextDoor]

This is a very good question thank you for raising this on this desert inside

[SUmof1]

@thestrangest if someone doesn't reply within 20 minutes when they're online, it's generally because they don't care or they're busy. You should learn to take a hint, Philosophy doesn't interest me, it's gay.

[TheStrangest]

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest if someone doesn't reply within 20 minutes when they're online, it's generally because they don't care or they're busy. You should learn to take a hint, Philosophy doesn't interest me, it's gay.

By definition if you don't like philosophy, you don't like wisdom which means you're just an ignoramus but who.cares. To each's own

[SUmof1]

@thestrangest i didn't say i don't like it i said it doesn't interest me. And not liking philosophy doesn't make you ignorant, that's like saying if you don't like geography you're dumb and can't read a map.

[TheStrangest]

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest i didn't say i don't like it i said it doesn't interest me. And not liking philosophy doesn't make you ignorant, that's like saying if you don't like geography you're dumb and can't read a map.

Well i understood that you disliked it but k. You know we strayed waaaayyyyyyyy too off topic

[SUmof1]

@thestrangest we always do, it's just how me and you work. We just HAVE to do this everytime. it's how you communicate with me and how i communicate with you, that's how i would attempt to explain it. Just get used to it is what i'm trying to say.

[TheStrangest]

@sumof1 good point

[LuluElizabeth]

@mcurie according to most Christians, God has always existed.

[TheStrangest]

@luluelizabeth said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@mcurie according to most Christians, God has always existed.

Are you a Christian? And if so why can't the universe have always been in existence if god can?

[SUmof1]

@thestrangest she was joking

[Jacob55]

I know I'm about to incur the wrath of thestrangest, lol, but I don't care.
I've searched for the smallest particals that we are aware of and I keep finding "quark". As far as I know and have read, there isn't an easy answer as to what a quark is or made of. It is super tiny, fits in protons and neutrons, which make the atom, etc etc. Atoms are found in every bit of matter. From active to inactive materials, every single thing in the universe is made up of atoms, all the way down to quarks.
I brought all this up because science has shown that our universe started with an explosion, "the Big Bang", a massive collection of energy (innumerable amounts of these quarks) and blew outward to expand the universe. So those quarks always existed even before being collected into the titanic ball of energy. Where is those quarks come from? They always existed. Theists gather from scripture that God is eternal. Always was, always will be. Like those quarks, always was, always will be. Scripture says humans are made in the image of God. Quarks bonded together, thanks to Gluons, to form protons/neutrons, so on so forth; just as they must have before in order to exist. Humans are created through conception, same as most every "living" thing. Animals, plants, and chemical compounds (like H²O. Gasses coming together to make water). In the King James Version of The Holy Bible, New Testament, Christ said in John 5: 18-19:
"18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise."
Jesus claims to do what God, His father, has done. Jesus claims to be God's son. Jesus was living a life on Earth, in a body of flesh and blood. God, at one point in all of eternity, lived as a man in a body of flesh and blood. God was created by His own Celestial parents, and so on. (This is were I'm guessing I'll be questioned on my sanity) To answer the main question simply... Just as matter has always existed and been formed from other matter, so is the same with God, created and formed by another God. Like parents creating children and raising them to go on and do the same. An eternal cycle.

[TheStrangest]

@sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@thestrangest she was joking

I don't see how but k

[TheStrangest]

@jacob55 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

I know I'm about to incur the wrath of thestrangest, lol, but I don't care.
I've searched for the smallest particals that we are aware of and I keep finding "quark".

Yeah that is probably the smallest thing, 1 of the 5 quarks

As far as I know and have read, there isn't an easy answer as to what a quark is or made of.

We know what quarks do and approximately how much they weigh so we know what they are but as far as i know "what are they made of" question doesn't need to be asked, everything is energy

It is super tiny, fits in protons and neutrons, which make the atom, etc etc. Atoms are found in every bit of matter. From active to inactive materials, every single thing in the universe is made up of atoms, all the way down to quarks.

No, quarks form atoms, atoms do not form quarks.

I brought all this up because science has shown that our universe started with an explosion, "the Big Bang", a massive collection of energy (innumerable amounts of these quarks) and blew outward to expand the universe. So those quarks always existed even before being collected into the titanic ball of energy. Where is those quarks come from? They always existed.

We don't know, man, but they could have always existed or in better words, spacetime didn't exist before the big bang therefore there was nothing before it so in other words quarks existed since the beginning of time (and space) but there could aswell be a multiverse(which is the most likely possibility IF there was even something before the Big Bang)

Theists gather from scripture that God is eternal. Always was, always will be. Like those quarks, always was, always will be.

Sure but no scientists asserts that, it is merely a possibility i.g.

Scripture says humans are made in the image of God.

Logic says God is made(made up) in the image of man

Quarks bonded together, thanks to Gluons, to form protons/neutrons, so on so forth; just as they must have before in order to exist.

"Just as they must have before in order to exist" weirdly stated statement but if all you're saying is that quarks formed everything through time then true

Humans are created through conception, same as most every "living" thing. Animals, plants, and chemical compounds (like H²O. Gasses coming together to make water).

eggs...

In the King James Version of The Holy Bible, New Testament, Christ said in John 5: 18-19:
"18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise."
Jesus claims to do what God, His father, has done. Jesus claims to be God's son. Jesus was living a life on Earth, in a body of flesh and blood. God, at one point in all of eternity, lived as a man in a body of flesh and blood.

You do understand that the bible is not a historical textbook r8? As far as we know we jesus might have not even existed since there is no historical proof for his existence, I'm not saying he didn't exist, I'm just saying the bible has as much historical merit as the Harry Potter books

God was created by His own Celestial parents, and so on.

And somehow his celestial parents are also himself, k christian theology

(This is were I'm guessing I'll be questioned on my sanity) To answer the main question simply... Just as matter has always existed and been formed from other matter, so is the same with God, created and formed by another God. Like parents creating children and raising them to go on and do the same. An eternal cycle.

Yeah... as far as we know none of this ever happened m8, no proof, no good reason to believe it. Contrary to Jesus we know and have evidence for the existence of quaeks and the happening of the Big Bang and even if we know for sure he existed that doesn't mean that his claims of being the son of a god were true.I don't get your point