If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists)


  • @mcurie no, this is the easiest but not the correct.
    The failure of the question, is that u r asking about creator of creator, this is wrong, he is creator, not being created , thats why he is god. U r subject to role which is you were not exist , then you have been created then you will die, god created this role for you, ofcourse he is not Subjected to a rule which he founded


  • @albarselan exactly


  • @mcurie I am a muslim, so let move to the next step, what do you know about killing the people who left islam?


  • It's a pointless discussion cause there's no answer eitherway. No way to know


  • @mcurie @kaneki-kun if you want to move in this way, god is not exist because he has no creator , let's move with this assume,
    1-if god is not exist , so the universe is not exist because it should have creator, and because no god who is creator for universe, so there is no universe.
    2- if no universe, so we are not exist because we are live in universe which is not exist, so sure we are not.
    3 if you are saying that nature created itself, tell me how this happened with this ultimate genuine???
    4- if you believe that universe is exist, so based in ur rule, someone created it, we are calling this someone "god" , tell us about his name in ur believes!!!.

    Actually u r saying that u believe onlythe in evidence, actually the universe itself is the biggest clear prove for existance of god


  • @mcurie , you just deny the existence of god because as per these books because its against ur desire and saying that its sin?? So u r not following evidences, u r following only based in ur desire.
    If ur desire changed tomorrow you will deny what u r tring to prove now!!


  • @theironsea the answers are exist, but if you just want to ignor because u just don't want to be in wrong side, its something different.
    I said before, one of two things only I see on all atheists, the doesn't read , or they just want to ignore what they know that its true because they have different desire against his instructions


  • @kaneki-kun iam just including you in the answer, as a type of respecting for you. 😀


  • Time created god and god created the universe with time.


  • @albarselan said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @mcurie @kaneki-kun if you want to move in this way, god is not exist because he has no creator , let's move with this assume,
    1-if god is not exist , so the universe is not exist because it should have creator, and because no god who is creator for universe, so there is no universe.
    2- if no universe, so we are not exist because we are live in universe which is not exist, so sure we are not.
    3 if you are saying that nature created itself, tell me how this happened with this ultimate genuine???
    4- if you believe that universe is exist, so based in ur rule, someone created it, we are calling this someone "god" , tell us about his name in ur believes!!!.

    Actually u r saying that u believe onlythe in evidence, actually the universe itself is the biggest clear prove for existance of god

    I'm not saying God doesn't exist and I never said that I man🙄. I think you'd read my replies more carefully please


  • @albarselan said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @kaneki-kun iam just including you in the answer, as a type of respecting for you. 😀

    Okay


  • @kaneki-kun the reply is directed for mcurie , but iam including u as u r part of the conversation


  • @albarselan said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @kaneki-kun the reply is directed for mcurie , but iam including u as u r part of the conversation

    Okay. I think the best person that can answer him/her is someone who now believes in God's existence and was formally an atheist @albArselan. Don't you think so??


  • Well I'm supposed to not be on this site since.... well i left and definitely do not want to come back but i couldn't resist answering this. Sorry if this was really a question JUST for theists.

    @mcurie long story short there is no good reason to believe in a god. If you can say that everything has to have a cause except god, i can say everything needs to have a cause except the universe and none of us would have gotten any closer to any truth. Most atheists are agnostic(a-(meaning not or lack)gnostic(having knowledge of)) atheists(a- theist(belief in god)) meaning they do not know for certain if there is a god or not but still do not believe because they've yet to find a good reason to. Point is that until science(the field of astrophysics in this case) has a SCIENTIFIC theory(theory means something completely different in science than otherwhere)

    explaining the origins of the universe then no one knows and YOU don't get to give made up answers like "god" which you can't even clearly define for all we care. It's funny how the 2 fields of science(Astrophysics and Biology) that most focus on origins of things are the most atheist, i wonder why... because there is no proof for your made up answers

    Any questions?


  • @mcurie BTW I'll only answer if i feel like it, sometimes people write for too long, are incomprehensible and at the same time think that they're making perfectly valid points... and i ofcourse am rarely in the mood for that kind of sh*t


  • I will tell you one Big secreat. The Love is not created. It have existed ever since and ever before. And was and it is and will be forever. Moving on. Stupid things dont matter. Get yourself a loving life man. We believe not for the good og God, because he doesnt need it. We believe because we need Him and his infinite love. And why is there misery in the world. Dont blame God but man for their stupidity. Have a wondwrful life


  • @thestrangest That's what I was telling them the whole time, but they think that the universe must have a cause, but god doesn't have a cause. blah blah blah.... That's why I stopped replying them.


  • @mcurie said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @thestrangest That's what I was telling them the whole time, but they think that the universe must have a cause, but god doesn't have a cause. blah blah blah.... That's why I stopped replying them.

    All the answers you're looking for are here Who Created God? (Atheist gave answers with proves). And seriously IDK what men should tell you again if after all this you're still not satisfied.

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    @kaneki-kun said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @mcurie said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @thestrangest That's what I was telling them the whole time, but they think that the universe must have a cause, but god doesn't have a cause. blah blah blah.... That's why I stopped replying them.

    All the answers you're looking for are here Who Created God? (Atheist gave answers with proves).
    And seriously IDK what men should tell you again if after all this you're still not satisfied

    So basically you are just copying a whole fucking article and saying the answer to the rhetorical question "who created god" that points out the hypocrisy of saying that EVERYTHING has to have a cause EXCEPT god(which is just a special pleading FALLACY) is in an article that(I'm saying this without even opening) is from 100 to 500 words(look up the gish gallop FALLACY) long and if we don't reply to every argument then blah blah blah you won the argument because we ignored evidence, no retard we just won't waste our time on that shit, you copy the points you think are good then paste them here so we can reply easily to them and have other people also know what we're replying to

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    @doyknowdaway said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    I will tell you one Big secreat. The Love is not created.

    Technically love is just a bunch of serotonin, adrenalin and dopamine levels rising in your brain 😑

    It have existed ever since and ever before. And was and it is and will be forever.

    No you can't have love without brains and specifically brains that use dopamine, serotonin, adrenaline... to feel love otherwise you can't have love and since single cellular life started 3.8 billion years ago and eventually evolved to create neuronal synapses that can transmit chemicals around 850 million years ago and then those chemicals started to include the love ones after a couple million years passed(i don't feel like looking up exactly when but it's before our ancestors evolved 380 million years ago). So no love as we know it is pretty recent compared to the 14 billion year old universe and will be gone once we are extinct

    Moving on. Stupid things dont matter. Get yourself a loving life man. We believe not for the good of God, because he doesnt need it.

    He doesn't exist as far as we know

    We believe because we need Him and his infinite love.

    Atheists live without a belief in god and are mostly loving and are surrounded by loving people. We don't need an invisible sky daddy for that shit

    And why is there misery in the world

    Because that's a pre-set of the world's settings, all species suffer and all we can do is work together to make life more pleasurable

    Dont blame God but man for their stupidity

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    1st we aren't blaming god for anything, you can't blame something whilst not believing in it's existence 😑
    2nd we are pointing out that god by the definition you usually give either is impotent(isn't omnipotent), not omniscient, malevolent or doesn't exist like the quotes above state

    Have a wondwrful life

    Thanks, i think picking up a science textbook might be beneficial to you