If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists)

[Kugelblitz]

@kaneki-kun You are talking about the book, that says being gay, or lesbian (or anyone in the LGBT category) is a sin.

[vahid 0]

@mcurie do not think about this,,,because the god who created you had not given the power to you to think about this question.....you should think about the gifts that god send us everyday to reach to god....when you reach god...you have the power like god...and you live happily until end...just be honest and keep your heart clean from pollution ......

[Kugelblitz]

@vahid-0 If you don't think about the question, how will you find the truth?
That's ignorance.

[vahid 0]

@mcurie if you think about the inside of the close box,you can realize the inside??you should see to understand...

[Kugelblitz]

@vahid-0 The thing that you will understand god if you follow what he says and blah blah.... That's not what I believe. We (atheists) believe in evidence, which there isn't any of god.

[vahid 0]

@mcurie 1-you say who created god...i say one another...you say who created that one...i say another...and this round will continue until end.......2-our thinking power is limited and can not understand everything...3_if you wanna know who created god you can you should choose love way not intellect way...

[albArselan]

@mcurie no, this is the easiest but not the correct.
The failure of the question, is that u r asking about creator of creator, this is wrong, he is creator, not being created , thats why he is god. U r subject to role which is you were not exist , then you have been created then you will die, god created this role for you, ofcourse he is not Subjected to a rule which he founded

[vahid 0]

@albarselan exactly

[albArselan]

@mcurie I am a muslim, so let move to the next step, what do you know about killing the people who left islam?

[Saviour]

It's a pointless discussion cause there's no answer eitherway. No way to know

[albArselan]

@mcurie @kaneki-kun if you want to move in this way, god is not exist because he has no creator , let's move with this assume,
1-if god is not exist , so the universe is not exist because it should have creator, and because no god who is creator for universe, so there is no universe.
2- if no universe, so we are not exist because we are live in universe which is not exist, so sure we are not.
3 if you are saying that nature created itself, tell me how this happened with this ultimate genuine???
4- if you believe that universe is exist, so based in ur rule, someone created it, we are calling this someone "god" , tell us about his name in ur believes!!!.

Actually u r saying that u believe onlythe in evidence, actually the universe itself is the biggest clear prove for existance of god

[albArselan]

@mcurie , you just deny the existence of god because as per these books because its against ur desire and saying that its sin?? So u r not following evidences, u r following only based in ur desire.
If ur desire changed tomorrow you will deny what u r tring to prove now!!

[albArselan]

@theironsea the answers are exist, but if you just want to ignor because u just don't want to be in wrong side, its something different.
I said before, one of two things only I see on all atheists, the doesn't read , or they just want to ignore what they know that its true because they have different desire against his instructions

[albArselan]

@kaneki-kun iam just including you in the answer, as a type of respecting for you. 😀

[sup]

Time created god and god created the universe with time.

[Kaneki-kun]

@albarselan said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@mcurie @kaneki-kun if you want to move in this way, god is not exist because he has no creator , let's move with this assume,
1-if god is not exist , so the universe is not exist because it should have creator, and because no god who is creator for universe, so there is no universe.
2- if no universe, so we are not exist because we are live in universe which is not exist, so sure we are not.
3 if you are saying that nature created itself, tell me how this happened with this ultimate genuine???
4- if you believe that universe is exist, so based in ur rule, someone created it, we are calling this someone "god" , tell us about his name in ur believes!!!.

Actually u r saying that u believe onlythe in evidence, actually the universe itself is the biggest clear prove for existance of god

I'm not saying God doesn't exist and I never said that I man🙄. I think you'd read my replies more carefully please

[Kaneki-kun]

@albarselan said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@kaneki-kun iam just including you in the answer, as a type of respecting for you. 😀

Okay

[albArselan]

@kaneki-kun the reply is directed for mcurie , but iam including u as u r part of the conversation

[Kaneki-kun]

@albarselan said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@kaneki-kun the reply is directed for mcurie , but iam including u as u r part of the conversation

Okay. I think the best person that can answer him/her is someone who now believes in God's existence and was formally an atheist @albArselan. Don't you think so??

[TheStrangest]

Well I'm supposed to not be on this site since.... well i left and definitely do not want to come back but i couldn't resist answering this. Sorry if this was really a question JUST for theists.

@mcurie long story short there is no good reason to believe in a god. If you can say that everything has to have a cause except god, i can say everything needs to have a cause except the universe and none of us would have gotten any closer to any truth. Most atheists are agnostic(a-(meaning not or lack)gnostic(having knowledge of)) atheists(a- theist(belief in god)) meaning they do not know for certain if there is a god or not but still do not believe because they've yet to find a good reason to. Point is that until science(the field of astrophysics in this case) has a SCIENTIFIC theory(theory means something completely different in science than otherwhere)

explaining the origins of the universe then no one knows and YOU don't get to give made up answers like "god" which you can't even clearly define for all we care. It's funny how the 2 fields of science(Astrophysics and Biology) that most focus on origins of things are the most atheist, i wonder why... because there is no proof for your made up answers

Any questions?