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  • @thestrangest What you are saying is assumptions and speculation. It's not confirmed that it could happen. When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported. Yes, we could be enhanced using Genetic modification but what if, they massively fuck up. Hell, what if we end up in a post-apocalyptic world with no future. Or more realistically, what if no one gives permission to utilize it and some end up doing it which in turns causes the general populace to hate it. Are you sure such things won't happen? What if we never attain interstellar? What if we achieve but it not good and really stressful with a class-based hierarchy? It's more likely to happen than anything.


  • @thestrangest and technological advancement doesn't necessarily mean the improvement of human civilization.

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    @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest What you are saying is assumptions and speculation.

    Maybe but most of what i mentioned will definitely happen. Isn't that improvement in many ways

    It's not confirmed that it could happen.

    Let's see. The trip to mars will 100% happen if we don't go extinct before the end of the 22nd century. Aging will definitely be solved at most by the 23d century because improvements in the search to cure aging are really fast. The ways of Genetic modification have already been created we just need practice. What's left

    When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported. Yes, we could be enhanced using Genetic modification but what if, they massively fuck up.

    I doubt that's very likely just because it takes a lot of tests to get a pass to test on humans or finally make genetic modification widespread

    Hell, what if we end up in a post-apocalyptic world with no future.

    AI might do that. But my argument is that i don't think things are more likely to go to shit at least because we're definitely going interstellar.

    Or more realistically, what if no one gives permission to utilize it and some end up doing it which in turns causes the general populace to hate it.

    Religious bullshit might cause that in the US and other religious countries but not every country and when it gets widespread in non-religious countries it will eventually spread to religious ones. This is if religion doesn't generally disappear in the future.

    Are you sure such things won't happen?

    They're unlikely. Being f'd by AI is much more likely

    What if we never attain interstellar?

    It will most likely happen by the end of the 21st century. SpaceX and nasa are planning on reaching mars by 2025

    What if we achieve but it not good and really stressful with a class-based hierarchy?

    That would still be better than being stuck on earth. Who cares about this possibility. Class gaps do not annoy me aslong as everyone gets the basics like a house, food, education and Internet.

    It's more likely to happen than anything.

    Yeh we are differently going to mars


  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest and technological advancement doesn't necessarily mean the improvement of human civilization.

    True but it does 99% of the time. Since technology involves everything used from cognitive science, earth/space science, computer science, médecin...


  • Yeh we are differently going to mars

    It's been a minute and I can't stop laughing at this one.


  • @girlwhois16 why


  • @thestrangest Explaining a joke doesn't keep the humour going.


  • @girlwhois16 sure


  • @thestrangest Going to mars doesn't mean interstellar and mars is not a viable place to survive. It's not going to be good option to live there.

    Just look at your statement and see how many times you have used the words "Likely". It shows that they are not confirmed to happen. Then what are you arguing against? I said,

    When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported.

    They're unlikely. Being f'd by AI is much more likely

    Why are they unlikely? Are you sure about the probability? Are you suggesting that you have something that supports your belief that those are unlikely?

    Who cares about this possibility

    How many dystopian novels have you read? If such class hierarchy is going to exist, common people won't most probably get enough of their basic needs.


  • @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    Religious bullshit might cause that in the US and other religious countries but not every country and when it gets widespread in non-religious countries it will eventually spread to religious ones. This is if religion doesn't generally disappear in the future.

    Yeah, blame it on religion. I have one word for you, "Anti-vaxxers".


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    You mean the 99% of all species that have ever lived are instinct. We didn't kill them all

    extinct*


  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest Going to mars doesn't mean interstellar and mars is not a viable place to survive.

    Ok. Interplanetary*

    It will become a viable place to live after simple modifications

    It's not going to be good option to live there.

    WHY

    Just look at your statement and see how many times you have used the words "Likely".

    K. I didn't but sure

    It shows that they are not confirmed to happen.

    WHAT is not confirmed to happen. In my 1st statement i only said "Definitely". We are definitely going to mars, curing aging, becoming able to do advanced genetic modification and what else did i say. As long as nothing horrible happens before the end of the 23rd century all of that will definitely happen

    Then what are you arguing against? I said,

    When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported.

    WE ARE

    They're unlikely. Being f'd by AI is much more likely

    Why are they unlikely? Are you sure about the probability? Are you suggesting that you have something that supports your belief that those are unlikely?

    You made the statement. You have the burden of proof to say that they're likely

    Who cares about this possibility

    How many dystopian novels have you read? If such class hierarchy is going to exist, common people won't most probably get enough of their basic needs.

    The population on mars won't be big enough for such a possibility anyways. Would it


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    @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    Religious bullshit might cause that in the US and other religious countries but not every country and when it gets widespread in non-religious countries it will eventually spread to religious ones. This is if religion doesn't generally disappear in the future.

    Yeah, blame it on religion. I have one word for you, "Anti-vaxxers".

    What is that supposed to mean. The only thing holding back things like stem cell research is religion. If genetic modification will be held back by superstition it will be religious superstition. In either case i don't know what anti-vaxxers have to do with this


  • @thestrangest Why isn't stem cell research also termed as yet another arrogant attempt by humans to control nature?

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    @girlwhois16 said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest Why isn't stem cell research also termed as yet another arrogant attempt by humans to control nature?

    😑 because it's important. Not to mention it being fun


  • @girlwhois16 i don't know how trying to remove human imperfections like cancer is arrogant. Stem cell research helps with cancer research


  • @girlwhois16 along with many other illnesses but i don't know what they are. I'm not an expert on stem cell research. I just know it's important


  • @thestrangest

    simple modifications

    Yeah, a Simple modification that requires planning and execution that would require at least 200 hundred years. For one, it doesn't have an atmosphere, then it's doesn't have a magnetic field and also, the temperature variation is too high. We can set up base stations on mars but we won't be able to make it into a habitual planet.

    http://www.science20.com/robert_inventor/blog/ten_reasons_not_to_live_on_mars_great_place_to_explore-118531
    https://www.popsci.com/how-did-mars-lose-its-atmosphere
    http://time.com/4845251/mars-life-toxins-microbes/

    K. I didn't but sure

    Why are you adamant about disagreeing with me? Just take a look and see if you have used the word "likely"?

    You made the statement. You have the burden of proof to say that they're likely

    here you go,
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/here-are-5-ways-the-unthinkable-could-happen-nuclear-war-21522
    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170821-how-prepared-are-we-for-the-impact-of-a-nuclear-war

    and for the dystopian, I don't have to present a proof. It's been the way all these years. It's likely to happen again.

    Then again, these things are probable. Are you sure that they won't happen? I used to the word "What if" to illustrate such themes which shows that they are not confirmed to happen but do have a chance to happen.

    The population on mars won't be big enough for such a possibility anyways. Would it

    One, if the population is big enough then that means it is not a good option. Two, in case of a small number of people leaving the planet, who do you think is more likely to be allowed to survive. Intelligent people; bullshit.

    What is that supposed to mean. The only thing holding back things like stem cell research is religion. If genetic modification will be held back by superstition it will be religious superstition. In either case i don't know what anti-vaxxers have to do with this

    In case you didn't understand, I presented the "Anti-vaxxers" as a proof to show that people can oppose useful things without basing it on religion an why do you think that stem cell therapy is held back by religion? Do you have any proof to offer? I can't find anything to show that religion is a responsible for hold back stem cell research.