lets all convert to hinduism


  • @Eucalyptus TBH you sometimes do that but without murdering , you have hate , grudges , fantacism , nationalism , 😂 the only thing u are missing is a gun lol


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    @The-Mods Who says I do it without murdering? :thinking_face:


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    i can not..... i haven't try gordon ramsay's beef wellington.


  • @YourMomToo Soooo, try it first and afterwards convert?! I didn't think about the no beef thingy :thinking_face: .. That's actually a good point! Zackaria didn't even point that out in his entire thing, that's like the most important con!! :o


  • @Biv said in lets all convert to hinduism:

    @Zack-Williamson I am neither Hindu nor pro-Hinduism. I agree that Hinduism has many bad sides including the racial caste system but I wouldn't blame Hinduism for the religious massacres done by some Hindus.

    Okay, sir.

    It has to do with behavioural genetics. On a regional basis, Upper caste Hindus have higher Steppe-derived Indo-European autosomal admixture than that of lower-caste Hindus and Dalits. But there are few exceptions like Jatts and Rors.

    North-west Indians and Pakistanis have much higher Indo-European admixture and lower indigenous East-Eurasian AASI admixture than Southern-most Indians.

    1. They were limited samples of population including Africans, Asians, Europeans. Thus, it brings limited inferences between castes and continental populations. Also, genetic similarities among castes populations are inversely correlated with geographic distance and it too depends on geographical location to make similarities between caste and continental population.

    2. There is a good probability that castes of different ranks may have originated from or admixed w/ diff continental groups as well.

    3. A large and uniform set of DNA polymorphisms are required to make comparison between both. Those asayed polypharmisms were indirect measurements, may not be selectively neutral and they were sampled from only a few loci,

    So, due to genetics, certain Indian ethnicities and caste groups have higher frequency of Indo-European steppe-related genes that cause those groups to have higher percentage of people who are more cruel, supremacist, war-like and violent. Other groups will have much lesser percentage of such cruel people.

    Higher percentage of people ? That study which you did read, concluded only 20-30% belonged to high ranks. Could you please give me a source for “higher frequency of Indo-European steppe-related genes cause cruelty, war-like behavior and violence” ?

    However, almost all South Asians & Indians(except tribals) are genetically predominantly Caucasoid/West Eurasian with a lot of aboriginal East-Eurasian admixture. The source of Caucasoid/West Eurasian admixture is mostly Neolithic Iranian but also significant Steppe-derived Indo-European admixture and almost all Indian groups(except South Indian Dalits and tribes like Paniya) have detectable Indo-European admixture but the percentage varies depending on region and caste.

    The similarity between bone-structures has nothing to do with race or their origins. You are speaking about merely a hypothesis which I can counter via Britannica-

    Aryan, name originally given to a people who were said to speak an archaic Indo-European language and who were thought to have settled in prehistoric times in ancient Iran and the northern Indian subcontinent. The theory of an “Aryan race” appeared in the mid-19th century and remained prevalent until the mid-20th century. According to the hypothesis, those probably light-skinned Aryans were the group who invaded and conquered ancient India from the north and whose literature, religion, and modes of social organization subsequently shaped the course of Indian culture, particularly the Vedic religion that informed and was eventually superseded by Hinduism.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Aryan

    Conclusion - The Caucasian race is considered as not-proved theory now

    I can quote from Wikipedia further-

    The Caucasian race is an obsolete racial classification of human beings based on a now-disproven theory of biological race.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

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    @Eucalyptus not going to convert. buddism is already enough.


  • @Eucalyptus said in lets all convert to hinduism:

    Just that, let's all convert! GO

    I shall never betray my fellow mongols!
    Mongol
    Mormons i meant mormons.

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    I think I need to start taking this religion seriously too but that never happens
    It doesn't come from within and Im not faking it ://
    Give me some fresh beef now


  • @Eucalyptus TM always see you better than that 💃


  • @TheRisingSun Same thing


  • @Eucalyptus said in lets all convert to hinduism:

    @Zack-Williamson

    There is no doctrine in Hinduism- Unlike other religions, you can worship or not any deity or god/goddess. Some worship Durga while some would worship Ganesh. Some other worship Shiva and so on. This does not make Hindus united like other religionists.

    I don't see how that's a con.. Freedom of religion within religion..

    I see only pro's, but that's because I'm just too lazy to read all the cons :sweat_smile:

    I said “Hinduism is no better than other religion because” which means Judaism, Jainism and Buddhism have also the same freedom. Just like Hinduism , Judaism is an ethnicity and there are a good amount of atheist Jews that exist without getting any death threats. One can be Jain or Buddhist and then he may worship or not their founders. He may or may not consider them God or even a simple man or the greatest man. He may even consider their preachers as deity or not. It depends all on him.

    It is more probable for a protestant christian to love other protestant christian than a Vaishnav Hindu (vaishnavism is a sect in Hinduism) to love another vaishnav. The caste-factor plays role here too. Gatherings once a week like Muslims, Christians make them more united and closer. Since the time of Muhammad Bin Kasim’s invasion in 712 to the Bristish Empire of 1947, India was captured not with enough resistance of inhabitants. It could be very difficult or even impossible to capture it if every Hindu king forgot each-other’s social status and could have helped each-other.

    Jk jk, you put so much effort in that! Researching it all, it's sad to hear that seemingly in all religion (and non religion) there's people who think they're better than everyone else :/ And people will always find reasons for hatred and justify their murderous behaviour :(

    Unlike irreligious, religionists justify their deeds on the basis of scriptures, founders or ideals. Irreligious cannot justify so because they don't have an ideal or a founder. In case 1 and case 2, case 1 is motivated by the ideals but the case 2 is not.

    Soooo, try it first and afterwards convert?! I didn't think about the no beef thingy  .. That's actually a good point! Zackaria didn't even point that out in his entire thing, that's like the most important con!!

    It is good to see that you are stuck on Islam. There are many religions other than Islam, Hinduism or Christianity. However, you don’t acknowledge them. Btw cow thingy replaced beef thingy and thus I made a con.

    @fluff Some thought it was almost forgotten till 13th century but when Turk, Afghans and Mughals invaded India, Hindus denied their marriage proposals to keep their blood pure. Moreover, Hindu females performed the certain rituals named sakas and johars to protect their blood's dignity from foreigners. In both rituals, they burnt themselves in fire.


  • @Yea33 I understand your intention, no worries. I am not offended, in fact, clearing doubts for others is a good thing.
    Ghazwa-e-Hind I think you mean? It is like the huge battle which is going to happen in the Sub-Continent.
    Well you must understand a few things:
    Quran is the absolute word of God, so it cannot be wrong.
    Hadeeth are the traditions or sayings of the Prophet, but they can be wrong, perhaps due to some people intentionally spreading corruption in it. Our Scholars of the past have done great work to weed out the false Hadeeth from the True ones.

    Now that you understand this, this battle is not in the Quran. So now there is a chance that it can be wrong. It is from the Hadeeth, and the Hadeeth do not mention it clearly, they just say that a huge battle of Muslims and Non-Muslims would occur there, something like this. So perhaps maybe it has already occurred? The Hadeeth is too ambiguous that we take its pinpoint meaning of Ghazwa-e-Hind.
    Since it is too ambiguous, we should just sit back and see what happens rather than making blind guesses.
    I hope it clears some of your doubts.
    Feel free to ask anything else!


  • @Eucalyptus The innocent in the verse means non-combatants, unnecessarily killed people, like old men, women, children not participating in war.


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    Oh so it is written in hadith not in Quran . Thanks for clarifying this


  • @Fahad-Hassan is killing people "good" according to quran?


  • @FluffyCookie No, killing people is never good unless it is necessary, like for crimes.


  • @Fahad-Hassan tell that to ISIS (Islam separatists/jihadists)


  • @FluffyCookie They are not in the circle of Islam. They are a group of people called 'Khawarij'. These people have the following characteristics:

    • These people do a lot of Takfir i.e they declare a lot of people (who call themselves Muslims) as non-Muslims without justification.

    • These people think that main-stream Muslims have been corrupted so much that they all must be killed. They judge the hearts of people.

    • They cherrypick Quran verses.

    • They follow the traditions of the Prophet as long as it meets their desires.

    • They rebel against Muslim leaders.

    The Prophet PBUH warned us by telling us that their will be a group of young people, with the traits listed above; where ever you find them, kill them, because they are terrorists! Trouble-makers, these people kill innocents over doubts on intention!
    Nowadays these people are ISIS, ISIL, IS, Al Qaeda, etcetera.

    Also, only a government can order to kill someone who is a Khawarij, we can't just go around and kill someone who we suspect is a Khawarij, doing so will make us a Khawarij ourselves!