@Kaya61 hi how are you can we be frnds
A SECOND PROTEST LETTER
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@willow said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@g-a
You brought Luci and I into this the moment you mentioned our names. So dont say you “dont want to bring it in”.It is a smooth talk honey 🙊 Indonesian do it to keep someone heart's feel okay.
I have thought since I first became moderator that users should know about decisions.
Psh, times were much simpler here when I enforced that idea lol.
I think, from what im understanding, you have the wrong idea about why I unmodded myself.Nope. I am fully understanding about it. I saw everything thats why i am always watching your posts, agreeing to be your husband, seeing you around. I know you are exhausted, someone talks funny things behind you but i cant shut up their mouth honey, it is their freedom.
A lot of “i dont give a shit, quit looking for attention. Stupid posts” have been marked on my topic. I found it best that I ddnt post an explanation.
But for you baby boy, sure.I know. I am really aware darling.
Moderators are expected to basically run the website. Before Ragnar/Odin/Samnas became an admin, that was still what we were expected to do. Ban spammers and toxic users. Work out fights. Report issues. Etc. Every ten days or so we would hear from @talkwithstranger . He would upvote a recent post, tell us to move horny topics to the find your date category, on occasion tell us to check the latest added feature, and then leave.
I saw it on the hella old posts. I know you miss the old time.
It was only when I started speaking out against trolls that things started to get messy.
Oh if only he hadnt created a new group chat, I could get screenshots about all the idiotic issues I actually thought he would listen to.
At the end of it all, the past seven months have all been the same. Why am I running a website, without getting paid, and without receiving any kind of recognition or appreciation for it?I know. Thats why i brought up your case with Luci as the past sins. It is all linked in.
Congrats Willow! You got a dinky little tag on your profile. That tag was the symbol of when I first became a target for idiots. Thats all it did, was attract stupid ass trolls.
Summarize:
-Willow was tired of trolling
-Willow is tired of no appreciation- Stop saying you are not worth
- Stop saying you are a drama queen
- Stop saying that you are stupid
- I love you so dont discourage yourself like that.
Onto part two
It reached a point where Im not having fun. Its a chore. One I do not enjoy. Other people might, but I do not. I do not simply ban users for the hell of it.
I messaged admins so many times. Both @odin and @talkwithstranger
Needing advice about something. Needing permission to do somethingThanks for sharing this stuff :)
I cannot help someone if I have absolutely no one showing me the way. I never got an answer on half the messages I sent. I never made a decision i felt 100% supported on.
Willow was tired of no communication.
I will NOT do something that causes me unnecessary stress.
It was unnecessary bullshit.
And when i finally got an answer. It was because Im unmodding myself. Not even from the guy who is supposedly handling moderator affairs ( thats you btw @odin )currently triggered but i am still watching they both decision in the future
But the admin...who doesnt answer for days. Shows you how long I wait for answers on sometimes urgent matters.
Then I see all these people wanting to be moderator. New faces and people with more connections. So fuck it.Lol. Thats why i am really against @bela when she wants to be a mods.
Whats sitting around ranting going to do GA?
They never listen, so why would they start now?You still have me honey :)
(Oh yeah and I just cant WAIT for someone to show up in here and call us crybabies, fml)
Say a name and i will do something for that person 😡😡😡😡😡😡
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@bela said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@odin @SunshineF @Morf @Unmodded-Nate @TheRisingSun
Omg @odin I Process application,people petition .I have clear all my intention but please watch your words.. How did u come up on this,u said " The only thing that makes this as the centre of drama is not choosing @Bela as new mod..
With all due respect,please watch out your words..Since the day I Know I am not a mod I am all fine,I accepted it prior before anything i know i may win it or not..
But please dont point out that the center of this drama is due to I Am not a mod..A good leader doesnt point anybody at the first place. Stop mentioning my name please ..I am out of this and I am not also the root cause of this topic..I do believe its not longer about me mod or not a mod..
Again as I am reading throughout I observed this is about governance and transparency just answer your people..
Again a piece of advice dont point me out as if I promote drama I am not like that..I am not the promotor of this, and once again I Am not the main cause dont use my name as an escapegoat of this topic..
Sincerly,respectfully yours,
Bela..Then some one needs to tell me what is this all about? Is ot cause i dont reply to users? Or the way i am choosing mods? I dont get it. I think i clarified everything.
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Gonna post the third protest letter about the unstatisfied, worst conditions the current Administrator should have a new breakthrough.
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@odin said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@WtfJudith good point. But did you think about fake accounts?its not the first time users made alot of fakes to voting polls.
Lets say a user get few votes, but just cause he really needs the position he can easly create fakes and vote for him self. I will pick the one with many votes. Uhh will that be considered as a wise way or good way of appointing mods.?
@odin @WtfJudith @Morf @Unmodded-Nate @Bela @sunshine @EVERYONE
Votes of recently created accounts can be discarded, to avoid fraud.
In the end the people that will vote are the ones that care and they are all known.let's say 10 mods are needed, and there are 15 candidates.
Let every user cast 10 votes. At the end of the poll, the top 10 will become moderators, and the rest 'reserve moderators'.
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@bela said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@odin @SunshineF @Morf @Unmodded-Nate @TheRisingSun
Omg @odin I Process application,people petition .I have clear all my intention but please watch your words.. How did u come up on this,u said " The only thing that makes this as the centre of drama is not choosing @Bela as new mod..
With all due respect,please watch out your words..Since the day I Know I am not a mod I am all fine,I accepted it prior before anything i know i may win it or not..
But please dont point out that the center of this drama is due to I Am not a mod..A good leader doesnt point anybody at the first place. Stop mentioning my name please ..I am out of this and I am not also the root cause of this topic..I do believe its not longer about me mod or not a mod..
Again as I am reading throughout I observed this is about governance and transparency just answer your people..
Again a piece of advice dont point me out as if I promote drama I am not like that..I am not the promotor of this, and once again I Am not the main cause dont use my name as an escapegoat of this topic..
Sincerly,respectfully yours,
Bela..Bels, take your time and rest now. Go out and lurking some days or talking to Cal.
SEE THATS WHY I AM AGAINST YOU IN THAT POSTS feel hurted? So, dont involve in here. -
@therisingsun said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@odin said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@WtfJudith good point. But did you think about fake accounts?its not the first time users made alot of fakes to voting polls.
Lets say a user get few votes, but just cause he really needs the position he can easly create fakes and vote for him self. I will pick the one with many votes. Uhh will that be considered as a wise way or good way of appointing mods.?
@odin @WtfJudith @Morf @Unmodded-Nate @Bela @sunshine @EVERYONE
Votes of recently created accounts can be discarded, to avoid fraud.
In the end the people that will vote are the ones that care and they are all known.let's say 10 mods are needed, and there are 15 candidates.
Let every user cast 10 votes. At the end of the poll, the top 10 will become moderators, and the rest 'reserve moderators'.Funny right? I will not create such drama if @Morf orf @sunshinef and @bela dont come up with it.
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@g-a I am not hurted at all even once i said words cant bring me down..I am just clarifying to Odin to be careful of his words as a leader..just saying in general coz its not good pointing names as a leader..
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@ODIN
@bela said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:@odin @SunshineF @Morf @Unmodded-Nate @TheRisingSun
But please dont point out that the center of this drama is due to I Am not a mod..A good leader doesnt point anybody at the first place. Stop mentioning my name please ..I am out of this and I am not also the root cause of this topic..I do believe its not longer about me mod or not a mod..
Again as I am reading throughout I observed this is about governance and transparency just answer your people..
Bela is on point. This drama is not about her. As she observed, this is about governance issues which the people do want you to address.
Thank you for clarifying this Bela. I don't know why your name was dragged into this but I apologize.
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@morf I fully understand everyone both @odin and people..@ odin there is no one to be point out we the sovereign people of tws are unique individuals accountable on our own will,we are capable of flaws and strenght..if you said u have clarified things then its good again just answer your people,hear their side and open for suggestion and what makes tws a good site..
@G-A i am never hurted im just clarifying things to odin that a good leader doesnt point out who is who..I also saw your post that someday i might thank u,whose knows i may will,and i understand what u mean by it..
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You all should kys.
You all apply so much brain in this stupid site and how it works. Just go and apply your wisdom in the stuff that actually matters.
And actually, who gives a shit about being a mod.
Its not really “ LEADERSHIP “ , its just a bunch of free jobless people working free for the cheap Website creators.
So just chill and have fun on this site. No need to bring shit in here.WHAT YOU READ ABOVE IS NOTHING BUT PURE GOLD☝️
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@rendezvous
This is the best comment EVER!!!
You are a wise old soul ren!!
:heart_eyes:
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@obviouslylucifer said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@rendezvous
This is the best comment EVER!!!
You are a wise old soul ren!!
:heart_eyes:
Well, They say I talk wisely, when I hit a rough patch in my life.😇
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@g-a dude hmm ... But by voting also ppl who are frnds to all will only become Mods or who has high repus will only become Mods ... So again it becomes the same old method ... So someone can become a Mod just by being a frnd of all (if there is voting method) without any proper qualification other than being frnd to all?!? It's injustice... So hope so it also isn't a proper method to allot Mods!
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@g-a said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@wtfjudith said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
I actually find that voting for mods sounds like a good idea. This could give us an idea of who users trust and look up to, then current moderators could check them over to see if they’re suitable for the position or just trollers. A new post could be made to replace admin’s old “looking for moderators” topic or that one could be used too so that people who are willing to get the position could leave their name and explain why they think they’d be good for the site. Then a official voting poll could nominate the top three users people want and mods could eliminate the ones who wouldn’t be suited for the position.
Idk, there might be flaws to this, but sounds like a good idea to me 🤷♀️
You always stole my attention honey, i love you 😘
punches your balls
Oops
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@unmodded-nate said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@rendezvous yes, I agree. Everyone should just kill themselves. This website is garbage and a lot of the people/leadership are also and should be treated as such.
I was honestly expecting attacks from people about that reply haha.
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@odin said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
There will be guide for new mods, we will start with @Mr-H
Yet again, I didn't say I would accept the mod job, I just said that as things are currently, I had to see a change in how the adressed issues are being handled. I will keep my words and say i'll decline the offer till I see actual changes. It's good that you are saying/showing desire to actually go the next mile/step but I also said I need to SEE to BELIEVE.
Again, don't take any of this (being "this" my words, opinions and declining your offer) a personal attack, I just don't think I can fit in the way things are being handled currently.@therisingsun said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@odin said in A SECOND PROTEST LETTER:
@WtfJudith good point. But did you think about fake accounts?its not the first time users made alot of fakes to voting polls.
Lets say a user get few votes, but just cause he really needs the position he can easly create fakes and vote for him self. I will pick the one with many votes. Uhh will that be considered as a wise way or good way of appointing mods.?
@odin @WtfJudith @Morf @Unmodded-Nate @Bela @sunshine @EVERYONE
Votes of recently created accounts can be discarded, to avoid fraud.
In the end the people that will vote are the ones that care and they are all known.let's say 10 mods are needed, and there are 15 candidates.
Let every user cast 10 votes. At the end of the poll, the top 10 will become moderators, and the rest 'reserve moderators'.That's exacly what I was about to say, after all it's easy to track fake accounts!
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I have this disorder where I can't read or write more than two lines :(
But I'll write a few lines as I have a lot of time now :)
So I just skimmed-and-scanned and look what I interpreted! :D
Your protests are constantly being ignored by both the admins here which can mean two things :confused:
1 - It is irrelevant. :joy:
2 - It is very irrelevant. :joy_cat:But whatever the cause is, man. I hope the fair side wins! :hugging_face:
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TOO MUCH DRAMA! MY ASS HURTS MAMA!
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