Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?

[ODIN]

@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

@ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

So god IF he exists is an evil asshole

we can change our fate through dua

Du’a is an act of worship. It is the weapon of the believer and the only thing which can change Fate or Destiny.

IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE

IF GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR DESTINY

Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this

Du’aa’ is very important. It can change the Divine decree and relieve distress. Allah Says in Holy Quran:

“And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believes in My Oneness and asks Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Surah Ghaafir 40:60]

So god KNEW while he was creating the universe that these people were going to hell before they even existed. And then he created them just so he can put them in hell forever. What a fucking asshole

In another Verse, Allah says:
“And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad PBUH) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me” [Surah al-Baqarah 2:186]

So people who invoke god not only think that god had set stuff wrong but they also think they can recommend god on how to fix things and put them right again and god is totally ok with that. God doesn't sound like an all-knowing allwise and all-pwerful person

dude as i said this is fuckn complicated. he the Only one knows why he put it like that. And i believe he is very wise and only True God. not everything concerning his creations and fates that we shall know. he is very wise to let peoples choose their path, and through duaa might chang someones fate.

IF GOD KNOWS OUR FATE AND THEN YOU CHANGE FATE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR FATE

Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this, this is the 5th time

and dnt call him asshole please ffs

So you are just going to say it's complicated and that you aren't going to disprove anything i said. I won.

haha u won but that doesn't change anything, its like this, when God created each soul, he asked every soul to choose its path, living here on earth its like proving for what we choose previously. so it is not Gods fault to create someone jst to suffer in hell, he asked first and we choose

[Lucifer]

So in the end I'd like to thank both our participants @AlwaysStranger and @Ragnar-Lothbrok for participating, and special thanks to @sarah for bringing this topic back from the dead.

[Rania Ameera]

right

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@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

haha u won

I AGREEEE

but that doesn't change anything

I AGREE THAT IT WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR YOU BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO READ THIS

its like this, when God created each soul, he asked every soul to choose its path, living here on earth its like proving for what we choose previously. so it is not Gods fault to create someone jst to suffer in hell, he asked first and we choose

I DISAGREE

that means that he didn't know what we were going to chose after he asked

If he knew what we were going to chose, he knew before he created us that he was creating us just so he can put us in hell forever which makes him an asshole

[ODIN]

@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

haha u won

I AGREEEE

but that doesn't change anything

I AGREE THAT IT WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR YOU BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO READ THIS

its like this, when God created each soul, he asked every soul to choose its path, living here on earth its like proving for what we choose previously. so it is not Gods fault to create someone jst to suffer in hell, he asked first and we choose

I DISAGREE

that means that he didn't know what we were going to chose after he asked

If he knew what we were going to chose, he knew before he created us that he was creating us just so he can pur us in hell forever which makes him an asshole

it seems you even dont trust the existence of God himself. do you?

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@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

it seems you even dont trust the existence of God himself. do you?

How about we end this discussion with the conclusion that IF an all-knowing god that sends people to hell exists then he's an evil asshole, Ok? And that you can't change your destiny because if a god like that exists he would already know everything you are you going to do in your life, Ok? I don't want to talk to you anymore since you just repeat the same stuff over and over again and it's not fun

[ODIN]

@alwaysstranger as u wish dude

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@ragnar-lothbrok thanks

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@ragnar-lothbrok by the way do you know stephen hawking

[one]

Ma friend lee this is the best question ever i read on tws I'll give you the answer
First you are right we choose how to live our lives it's not planned by god but our destiny depends on how we lives our live means if you lives your life in good way without hurting anyone an without doing any bad things then you choosed good destiny already by doing good things it means human chooses his own destiny by doing good or bad things it's depends only on how we lives our live and most important god only helps good peoples for make theirs destiny good an also helps bad peoples to make theirs destiny bad..!

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@one said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

Ma friend lee this is the best question ever i read on tws I'll give you the answer
First you are right we choose how to live our lives it's not planned by god but our destiny depends on how we lives our live means if you lives your life in good way without hurting anyone an without doing any bad things then you choosed good destiny already by doing good things it means human chooses his own destiny by doing good or bad things it's depends only on how we lives our live and most important god only helps good peoples for make theirs destiny good an also helps bad peoples to make theirs destiny bad..!

Spend a couple of minutes reading my debate with @Ragnar-Lothbrok

[onyx_the_kitten]

@Lee-Sin I personally believe the butterfly effect, in life it really is about what decisions you make that determine what happens. but the things you cant control are where he comes in, that's where freewill and his plan intertwine in life.