hello everybody
Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?
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@sarah said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
I think we decide ourselves
I thought Free Will was one of the founding principles of the universe...
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@lucifer_ said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@sarah said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
I think we decide ourselves
I thought Free Will was one of the founding principles of the universe...
mhhh i dont think so
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@ragnar-lothbrok Yeah exactly. Free will is an illusion, everything is already determined. So IF god exists and he is all knowing, that meabs that he knows exactly what you are going to chose at every moment of your life, then when he created the universe he created some people KNOWING that he he will put them in hell for eternity and that's the only reason why he created them
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@ragnar-lothbrok which clearly makes god a complete asshole IF he exists
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@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok Yeah exactly. Free will is an illusion, everything is already determined. So IF god exists and he is all knowing, that meabs that he knows exactly what you are going to chose at every moment of your life, then when he created the universe he created some people KNOWING that he he will put them in hell for eternity and that's the only reason why he created them
exactly ,They say that we are here because we chose to be born at this time and that only the strongest souls were allowed, We are the chosen one, and it is already destined how our life will look like. btw miss u buddy
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@ragnar-lothbrok so you aren't denying that god created some people JUST so he can send them to BURN IN HELL FOREVER. You're just saying "he let a lot of people not go to hell so it could've been worse ALLAHU AKBAR SKSKGGKVD"
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@ragnar-lothbrok god is an asshole IF he exists
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@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok god is an asshole IF he exists
damnit, iddnt mean that, ffs, he gave everyone a choice to follow right or wrong, it is already destined that some peoples can go to hell and others to paradise, also remind you destiny can be changed depends on a persons faith and his willingness to change, if he was destined to be a bad person and he changed then thats where destiny changes. so it depends on your choice of living
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@ragnar-lothbrok But that would mean free will???
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@lucifer_ said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok But that would mean free will???
I am confused.choice of being a good person or ban person is freewill as long as destiny can be changed
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@lucifer_ said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@sarah said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
I think we decide ourselves
I thought Free Will was one of the founding principles of the universe...
SO FREE WILL!!!
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@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok god is an asshole IF he exists
damnit, iddnt mean that, ffs, he gave everyone a choice to follow right or wrong
if god already KNOWS exactly what you are going to do then you don't have any choice
it is already destined that some peoples can go to hell and others to paradise, also remind you destiny can be changed depends on a persons faith and his willingness to change
if he was destined to be a bad person and he changed then thats where destiny changes. so it depends on your choice of life
So you're telling me
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God knows the future(destiny)
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But i can change (destiny)
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So god can be wrong and ignorant about the future(destiny) and not all knowing
You are so inconsistent
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@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok god is an asshole IF he exists
damnit, iddnt mean that, ffs, he gave everyone a choice to follow right or wrong
if god already KNOWS exactly what you are going to do then you don't have any choice
it is already destined that some peoples can go to hell and others to paradise, also remind you destiny can be changed depends on a persons faith and his willingness to change
if he was destined to be a bad person and he changed then thats where destiny changes. so it depends on your choice of life
So you're telling me
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God knows the future(destiny)
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But i can change (destiny)
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So god can be wrong and ignorant about the future(destiny) and not all knowing
You are so inconsistent
changing destiny doesnt mean God is ignorant, its a chance that God gave peoples so that they can be free in choosing either ways, hell or paradise.
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changing destiny doesnt mean God is ignorant, its a chance that God gave peoples so that they can be free in choosing either ways, hell or paradise.
If god doesn't already know EXACTLY what you're going to chose that means he's ignorent of the future. LOGIC BITCH
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@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
changing destiny doesnt mean God is ignorant, its a chance that God gave peoples so that they can be free in choosing either ways, hell or paradise.
If god doesn't already know what you're going to chose that means he's ignorent of the future. LOGIC BITCH
he is clever and wise to make anyone change his destiny, and he knows each and everyones destiny and future. Omar (r.a) he was among serious killers and people who hated islam during islamic era at the time of prophet (pbuh) but he changed his destiny and we always mention his name on our prayers and when we recite quran
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@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
changing destiny doesnt mean God is ignorant, its a chance that God gave peoples so that they can be free in choosing either ways, hell or paradise.
If god doesn't already know what you're going to chose that means he's ignorent of the future. LOGIC BITCH
he is clever and wise to make anyone change his destiny, and he knows each and everyones destiny and future. Omar (r.a) he was among serious killers and people who hated islam during islamic era at the time of prophet (pbuh) but he changed his destiny and we always mention his name on our prayers and when we recite quran
IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE
IF GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR DESTINY
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@ragnar-lothbrok wtf is so hard to understand
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@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
changing destiny doesnt mean God is ignorant, its a chance that God gave peoples so that they can be free in choosing either ways, hell or paradise.
If god doesn't already know what you're going to chose that means he's ignorent of the future. LOGIC BITCH
he is clever and wise to make anyone change his destiny, and he knows each and everyones destiny and future. Omar (r.a) he was among serious killers and people who hated islam during islamic era at the time of prophet (pbuh) but he changed his destiny and we always mention his name on our prayers and when we recite quran
IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE
damn!!! look let me make it this way, God knows our future and our destiny, it is all planned by God to live the life we are living. he knows our future but he can change it depending on how we use our life. as i said it is all planned by God, we are given opportunity to change our future. ughhhhh...its fckn complicated
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@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
@alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:
changing destiny doesnt mean God is ignorant, its a chance that God gave peoples so that they can be free in choosing either ways, hell or paradise.
If god doesn't already know what you're going to chose that means he's ignorent of the future. LOGIC BITCH
he is clever and wise to make anyone change his destiny, and he knows each and everyones destiny and future. Omar (r.a) he was among serious killers and people who hated islam during islamic era at the time of prophet (pbuh) but he changed his destiny and we always mention his name on our prayers and when we recite quran
IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE
damn!!! look let me make it this way, God knows our future and our destiny, it is all planned by God to live the life we are living. he knows our future but he can change it depending on how we use our life. as i said it is all planned by God, we are given opportunity to change our future.
So god is like
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GOD: i know everything including everyone's destinyHuman: does something
GOD: oh damn, I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT SO I'M GOING TO CHANGE HIS DESTINY
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god sounds more confused than you are
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@alwaysstranger hahahha!! he aint confusing its like
GOD; i know the future of alwaysstrangr, he will enter on paradise, but let me give him a chance to choose his pathAlwaysstranger; he be a bad person do somthin bad then he changes and be a good person, or do something that good
God; oh okay then he choosed the wright path even tho he spent his whole life denying me.