this is a ...disturbing topic, care to shed some background? any time of violence or abuse is not tolerated here or in person
Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?
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@alwaysstranger >>> Meaning ?
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@sheapard i didn't understand what you said
Refrase it in a coherent manner -
@sheapard what is "it"?
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I think that the Islam is a religion but some people use the religion as reason for their actions.
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@muslim Islam is not a religion of terrorism any more than Christianity is. There are radical Islamics that try to force their beliefs on others, and they are evil. However, there are also radical Christians that have performed bombings and shootings, the same as the much-feared radical Islamics. Essentially, unless a religion actively teaches and encourages terrorism, it is not a religion of terrorism. There are factions of muslims and christians and other religions who are violent and wish to eradicate everyone but themselves, but they do not make their respective religions terrorism religions.
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as many people say and i believe it to be true, terrorism has no religion..
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As a Muslim I believe I have the right to speak for all Muslims and say: we don't give of fuck what u think about our religion. And Thank u.
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hell no, all of religions teach us do not killing each other, dont blame the religion but blame it on people who do it
im a muslim and im not a terrorist, we live in peace, isis is an america's army, isis is not islam
thank you
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@haseeb yeah, im on you
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@alwaysstranger "it" referring "to ISLAM", been brought with equal plain of terrorism, is an absolute sway to a sincere approach of rationality.
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@alwaysstranger ..Reason for saying so, well , i wouldn't know the full contrast to the premise before the said argument, but let's try and be logical, rational and deductive thinkers, few misleading unrepresentative element cannot in any way dictate the actual crux of an ideology.
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@sheapard the quran is violent. That is a fact. I don't know if that implies that islam is a religion of terrorism but it is a fact
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The short answer is 'no' because of course Islam is much more than that (so the question is a bit simplistic) But the problem for Islam is it is hard to get away from its roots. Mohammad was a warrior, and the Islamic faith was initially spread by territorial conquests. It has also tended to spawn theocracies (where God/Allah is the ruler over everything...ie Sharia law...which by default means a dictatorship...because unfortunately God doesn't speak on cue). So terrorists live in the extreme end of Islam and find their justification in their founder. Of course we know that there are millions of peace loving muslims.
We also know that Christians have been guilty of conquests in the name of religion too. (Although the crusades ordered by the pope were aimed at stopping the advance of muslim conquerors across Europe, and so i think justified just on self-defence alone). But on the other hand we know that the Catholic church of the Middle Ages was despotic and a monster. But along came Martin Luther in the 1500s and said... we have to 'reform'. 'We have to go back to our roots and live as Jesus lived'. And the church threw out a lot of stuff and went back to basics. Islam has a problem with doing that... if it reforms, it still goes back to its roots... which included expansion by conquest. So it is much harder for Islam to get away from the territorial nature of its roots, and so terrorists will continue to find justification and energy in the same place.
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I also said the same but as an ex muslin my big ass comment (which can currently be found on page 5 of this post) has a lot more verses, facts and whatever. So if you want to, go read it and take note
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@alwaysstranger .. I believe you really do know what "Fact" means... cos you really being emotional and subjective.. else please, rationally point us how factual the QURAN is violent??
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@alwaysstranger ...i just saw the reply with thread 5
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@alwaysstranger . An ex-muslim, such a bogus claim, rather add to it an "Ex-Muslim by name" cos evidently it shows you really didn't understand the fundamental of ISLAM while you were a Muslim , sorry for been lashy, but if at all you sincerely do, you would have known that, to every verse in the Quran, there exit, its Tafsir(explanation and reason) and the context withing the period of revelation.
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@sheapard oh no. Not this shit again. This is giving me headaches, I'm not talking about the tafseer with you because i already did with a couple of other guys abd all they do is tell me bullshit. I'm no longer responding to you because this is going to give me a heart attack. Go check, the tafseer of the verses i showed has the same meaning. I didn't leave islam after 19 years of being muslim because i didn't understand the tafseer of verses or whatever, leave me alone or I'm going to have a stoke
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@sheapard and the comment wasn't for you anyway. I didn't want you to read it, i should have sent it to @mark1 privately. This is the first and last time i respond to you because you're too radical and mindwashed to argue with
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I think that Islam was intended to represent brotherhood, charity and kindness etc.......but the laws are so contradictory that there was no way for it to result in anything other than what it represents today.....which I'm sorry to say, is chaos.
I have close friends that are Muslim. I respect and embrace them wholeheartedly. They are nothing but good people. But after having intense and lengthy conversations with multiple relgious muslims including some imams, I am lead to believe that's quite close to bogus. Again, the intention was good, but if was clearly a manmade religion, which is why it is flawed, hence the uproar and backlash there is against it today.
