If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists)

[Kugelblitz]

@albarselan That's the purpose of my question, I'm saying that if there is a god, then there must be some way he was created. Which creates an infinite loop, (creator, creator1, creator2, creator3.....). The simplest answer would be that there is no god, which completely makes sense.

[Kugelblitz]

@albarselan I'm not sure if it is an Islamic rule or not, but people here, who are Muslims, will torture you... a lot.

[Kaneki-kun]

@mcurie said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@albarselan That's the purpose of my question, I'm saying that if there is a god, then there must be some way he was created. Which creates an infinite loop, (creator, creator1, creator2, creator3.....). The simplest answer would be that there is no god, which completely makes sense.

😂😂😂😂😂 @MCurie you're very funny. And I think I've said this "before God, there was nothing" God is not having a past and that's what you don't want to understand/accept or whatever is the thing you don't want to. On top of that, Idk if you know what "Devine" means oor if you're even aware of such a word😴. Like I @albArselan said you guys don't read, 'cause if you'd read and made a bit of googling I'm sure you'll not raise some of the arguments you raised.

And BTW, have you ever tried to have a talk with or look for one of your likes that now believes there's a God from who everything started? And find out why he or she now thinks and believes so??

[Kaneki-kun]

@albarselan Soz man, but it's curie that said so, I didn't say it😴

[Kaneki-kun]

@mcurie said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@kaneki-kun I don't know much about Jesus. I just believe that virgins can't give birth. Nothing special about him.

If you don't know, why not search oor ask ppl to teach you?? Whyd you just draw conclusions "Nothing special about him" ?. That's not how you'll understand the answer to your question☹️ . This is really sad 🤒

[Kugelblitz]

@kaneki-kun Go and read a book named "A universe from nothing.". Then you will understand that there can be a universe with no creator. We don't need a creator. A creator doesn't make sense.

[Kugelblitz]

@kaneki-kun What I do know is that you people believe a virgin gave birth to Jesus. Which is completely ridiculous. So you should go, and read some books, where it is mentioned "How babies are born".

[Kaneki-kun]

@mcurie said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@kaneki-kun What I do know is that you people believe a virgin gave birth to Jesus. Which is completely ridiculous. So you should go, and read some books, where it is mentioned "How babies are born".

So are you saying Jesus also doesn't exist😃? Is that it?? Coz If not make yourself clear @MCurie 😃😃😃

[Kaneki-kun]

@mcurie said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

@kaneki-kun Go and read a book named "A universe from nothing.". Then you will understand that there can be a universe with no creator. We don't need a creator. A creator doesn't make sense.

Go and read the books named "Bible and Quran". Then you will underetant that there can be a universe with no creator, because the universe is the creator himself🤣🤣🤣🤣. TBH your ignorance is getting funny to me 😂 and it's only because you don't probably know and don't understand the indepth of what you're saying🤷.

And seriously, you'd talk with an atheist that's now seeing light. Tchip😪, that's where your answers are if you really mean to be answered and you're not just bored looking for an argument or have the longest thread here 😊

[Kugelblitz]

@kaneki-kun I'm not saying Jesus doesn't exist, I'm just saying there was somebody (male) who, with his mother, gave birth to him.

[Kugelblitz]

@kaneki-kun You are talking about the book, that says being gay, or lesbian (or anyone in the LGBT category) is a sin.

[vahid 0]

@mcurie do not think about this,,,because the god who created you had not given the power to you to think about this question.....you should think about the gifts that god send us everyday to reach to god....when you reach god...you have the power like god...and you live happily until end...just be honest and keep your heart clean from pollution ......

[Kugelblitz]

@vahid-0 If you don't think about the question, how will you find the truth?
That's ignorance.

[vahid 0]

@mcurie if you think about the inside of the close box,you can realize the inside??you should see to understand...

[Kugelblitz]

@vahid-0 The thing that you will understand god if you follow what he says and blah blah.... That's not what I believe. We (atheists) believe in evidence, which there isn't any of god.

[vahid 0]

@mcurie 1-you say who created god...i say one another...you say who created that one...i say another...and this round will continue until end.......2-our thinking power is limited and can not understand everything...3_if you wanna know who created god you can you should choose love way not intellect way...

[albArselan]

@mcurie no, this is the easiest but not the correct.
The failure of the question, is that u r asking about creator of creator, this is wrong, he is creator, not being created , thats why he is god. U r subject to role which is you were not exist , then you have been created then you will die, god created this role for you, ofcourse he is not Subjected to a rule which he founded

[vahid 0]

@albarselan exactly

[albArselan]

@mcurie I am a muslim, so let move to the next step, what do you know about killing the people who left islam?

[Saviour]

It's a pointless discussion cause there's no answer eitherway. No way to know