• @pe7erpark3r the radicalization of the masses towards either group A or group B is a direct result of accessible plataforms for people to further increase the size of the gap between opossing ideologies AND russian bots. everywhere. SO russia is already influencing our society. And, I dont think they really said their plan is to wipe the european race and christian out. That seems like Right/Moralist Propaganda. Or Russian Fake news.


  • Also, guys, this was never intended as a post to have this kinda of discussion. I made this one to introduce some historical fact about a mostly unknown religion from the past that actually influenced many other. This post was never intended to be a open ideological discussion. So, I would reccomend everyone wanting to discuss religion and Ideology to gather and make some other post dedicated to it. I mean, I probably wont enforce any sort of control over this, But I think I should at least point this out. I will not be engaging in this discussion any further and I strongly advice people to do it as well.


  • @pe7erpark3r through were did brexit go? you mean it was voted at the referendum? man back then the "facts" that the regime fed the public, as they are revealed in todays light, were pure fiction and nowhere near resemble the truth, thats why it went through. Today? everyone hates that clown of a PM, are digusted by the torries and everyday theyre loosing the public more and more as more lies come to light. The torries lostthe next election, labour is gonna have oit day after fkin so long. Im curious to see what the Corbyn fella is made of. And- No- the no deal brexit was favoring the filthy rich conservative pricks, who couldnt care less nor for their country nor for the less fortunate that the public consists of.


  • @MarsAttacks Oh yeah buddy, we have it all. flat earthers, Antivaxxers, Military coocoo-heads, everything this world has to offer, as long as it is weird and crazy we have it.


  • @Thales_BG said in A glimpse into an ancient religion almost forgotten.:

    @pe7erpark3r the radicalization of the masses towards either group A or group B is a direct result of accessible plataforms for people to further increase the size of the gap between opossing ideologies

    Yes. Again the problem is a moral one though: Those platforms are built to generate money. Through clicks. The more sensational something is, the more clicks it generates. It's built into facebook and google. It's their business model

    AND russian bots. everywhere. SO russia is already influencing our society.

    Yes. Influencing yes. Have you read the link I wrote though? That's from 2001, The UN really is replaceing the european population, it's an actual agenda.

    And, I dont think they really said their plan is to wipe the european race and christian out. That seems like Right/Moralist Propaganda. Or Russian Fake news.

    It's not that open yet, true. But it's already quite open. Take this law for example:

    https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-8-2019-0239_EN.html

    which was just passed in the european parliament. On the surface it seems good right? fighting racism, helping african people in europe.

    But it really undermines the fundamental principles europe is built on. For it gives special rights to a group of people. It favors people on their race/background. Now what's wrong with that, you might ask?

    Well: the EU and all european democracies are built on the core value that all human beings are equal and have equal dignity.

    This law is racist.

    There is another good example of what's happening that was going on in harvard university some time ago. They are trying to make quotas, and they thought they had too many asians. So they made the tests so, that an asian person had to be 10% better than say a white person or a black person. Imagine you are asian, and you sit in the test, and you have to be 10% better than the guy next to you, just because of the color of your skin? And no, harvard is not on the far right, it's on the left. They are fighting western values, they are fighting christian values!


  • @Thales_BG said in A glimpse into an ancient religion almost forgotten.:

    Also, guys, this was never intended as a post to have this kinda of discussion. I made this one to introduce some historical fact about a mostly unknown religion from the past that actually influenced many other. This post was never intended to be a open ideological discussion. So, I would reccomend everyone wanting to discuss religion and Ideology to gather and make some other post dedicated to it. I mean, I probably wont enforce any sort of control over this, But I think I should at least point this out. I will not be engaging in this discussion any further and I strongly advice people to do it as well.

    Fair enough :sweat_smile:


  • @Thales_BG lol... i still remember the first time i heard about flat earth..it was wjhen i was living in Bristol UK and there was a sign gluedto the lampost, sort of like a hard back postertype of thing. I thought it was a joke lol. Apparently now they r trying to organise a cruise to the edge of the world hihi
    yeah sorry for that mate I didnt mean to be disrespectfull... just it got to me .. yeah ill stop sorry again lol.
    EEEEE HNY MAN! :)


  • @MarsAttacks said in A glimpse into an ancient religion almost forgotten.:

    @pe7erpark3r through were did brexit go? you mean it was voted at the referendum? man back then the "facts" that the regime fed the public, as they are revealed in todays light, were pure fiction and nowhere near resemble the truth, thats why it went through. Today? everyone hates that clown of a PM, are digusted by the torries and everyday theyre loosing the public more and more as more lies come to light. The torries lostthe next election, labour is gonna have oit day after fkin so long. Im curious to see what the Corbyn fella is made of. And- No- the no deal brexit was favoring the filthy rich conservative pricks, who couldnt care less nor for their country nor for the less fortunate that the public consists of.

    I don't know enough about british society to really gauge the truth or falsity of your claims. I would like to understand however how the majority of the filthy rich people are profiting from the brexit. Of course I do agree, that some people will be profiting. But the question is wether it's some people or most of the filthy rich. My understanding is, that the filthy rich, e.g. the globalists, want less borders and international trade agreements, so they can save taxes as they export/import their goods. The really rich certainly profited from the EU, like germany was the big winner of the whole thing, because it is the strongest exporter... But... since I wish to respect @Thales_BG's wish, maybe you want to make a topic about this and invite me?


  • @pe7erpark3r spideuy trust me, i do. i apologise for lashing out on you it wasnt fair and i have no excuse. Lived in the uk for 7 years have alot of friends there and i see newsfeeds and posts here and there. mate, its abit of a very large issue to analyse here what youre asking. Its something with with trade and taxes and capital not in brittish soil and all that jazz and other stuff. But for example that cokehead wanker primeminister was going to sell the NHS to a private sorp and create a health system something like in the states ,health insuranse ffs. and lotsof other odds and bitshere and there...


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  • @pe7erpark3r
    "It's not russia, yet. But russia might soon use the mess we created to bring ever worse disaster" - One can think that the only thing Russia wants to do is to bring ever worse disaster. How objective you are. Russia like any other country do only what a particular group of people who controls it want it to do. No more, no less. It could be a disaster for some country/ies or could not, depends on what is more profitable for the politicians.
    I m not very good in political questions, nevertheless, I don't support Putin, I don't like him.
    But I was surprised to read from you such a value judgment about the whole country. Looks like you expect nothing good from Russia even if Putin is gone.

    I only was trying to think logically if I was wrong in some deductions I would be happy to hear where I did a mistake


  • @Thales_BG "gap between opossing ideologies AND russian bots." - would you be so kindly to explain me that, I don't get it right, I fear.
    Or maybe you wanted to say that russian bots are everywhere?
    "SO russia is already influencing our society." - I thought that in our digital era all countries influences each other somehow, I was wrong?
    "our society." - May I ask what is "our society". Brazil? Western society? As I understood there are Russia and the society which I would not be allowed to be at :(
    "Moralist Propaganda" - Damn, I feel like I am Russian bot myself. I must admit, I was saying some puritanical and maybe even hypocritical things in Public Chat, I apologize, but I hadnt intentions to increase the size of the gap between opossing ideologies or especially to wipe somebody out, I swear.


  • @Black-biler Russia has a long past of meddling in the affairs of other countries. It doesn't matter if it is controlled by a czar, a general secretary or a president: it is a question of mentality. Your leaders see themselves as the "saviours of Europe", which has led to countless acts of unwarranted destruction.

    Out of all the European countries, the largest imperialist forces have been France, Germany, Russia and the United Kingdom. All of these countries have learned their lesson and have stopped pushing around their neighbors, with the glaring exception of Russia. Ukraine and Georgia have fallen victim to its naked aggression already, and it is only a matter of time until a new target is chosen for destruction.

    Now let me be clear: I don't hate Russians and it would be my earnest wish to see Russia become a force for global goodwill. But as it is right now, Russia is a dangerous country to the Western civilization. The West is rotting in its amorality as it is, we don't need another factor of destabilisation to contribute to it.


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  • @Your-dad said in A glimpse into an ancient religion almost forgotten.:

    @pe7erpark3r What are da proofs that UN is trying to replace European population? Will it happen the same way Native Americans and Native Australians were replaced by colonizers? Why will UN do so?

    What are the bad things that can happen bcz of this?

    Why not use robots and AI to do work instead of taking immigrantz?

    It's not exactly replacing or destroying of the original population. It's more of a refill. The original european population is dying out...


  • @Black-biler yeah dude, so, there is this whole thing going on about social media and confirmed russian "bots" and "agents" helping further divide our already messed up populace. Facebook and twitter had some MAJOR problems with some recent findings of thousands of "bot", or scripted accounts that would post, like and retweet and share stuff on both sides of the political arguments going on since before 2016 american ellection, and in brazil there were some cases of Russian "agents" buying ad space on facebook and target-sharing some pretty radicalizing ads and posts around the time we had our election. That's what I meant by russian bots and increasing the gap in between opposing ideologies. They would target users that showed some interest in some sort of ideology with posts and tweets and shit that showed the other side as "the total evil", and vice-versa.

    when I said "our society", I was talking about western society, democratic tradition, christian background, mostly europe, the americas and them aussies and kiwis.

    I never meant to say "russians" were somehow connected to that, I'm mostly saying "Russia", as a superpower and political influencer, and maybe not even putin himself (although, due to his background as a KGB agent makes it very likely he is in on it or ever the one masterminding this whole operation) is actively trying to undermine Western political and social integrity. and they are succeding. which is remarkable but also sad.

    you are most welcomed around here, and if you ever come to brazil, give me a holler and I will personally pay for a shitty offbrand vodka and have a good time with you, I have absolutely nothing against your people Biler. I actually thing you guys are fucking amazing.

    PS: I'm sure you are not a russian bot and that you are not in any way involved in this.


  • @Silhouette
    "a question of mentality" I was always surprised what's the point in the meddling in the affairs of other countries, when you have got a lot of problems in your own.
    So I dont think that I have mentality you are talking about.
    Because when I have some problems I concern only about them. And the last thing I want at that moment is to interfer with other people's businesses.
    Moreover, if I find that my presence or actions are unwelcome in the society I just leave and isolate myself more. That seems rational for me.
    And our government... What can I say... I hate them... Because of their actions millions of people from different countries hate me only for the place where I was born, the language I am speaking and DNA I posses.
    But I am just a weak man who scarcely can change anything, I m afraid.

    And thanks for giving me an answer, I suppose that the person who was adressed my question doesnt find it necessary to answer it.


  • @Thales_BG Is there any media in any country that does not depend on the government and provides people of that country totally objective information? Of course, when the ideologies of two contries are opposite but spheres of influence are met each other, these two countries starts to represent each other as worse as they could in front of the other countries in order to gain their support.

    I do not support actions of my government. And I isolated myself as much as I could from the political news. I just can't endure all that stuff full of bitterness and desperation any longer. Maybe that's not how brave man should act, but I am not brave at all, and I ve got a lot of other problems in my life most of which are connected with communication and fear of it.

    I read some of your posts and I was terrified how poor education system in Russia is. Even worse than I could assume. I draduated from college where I spent 6 years of my life after 10 years of school. And you're a bus ticket revisor with high school education saying all this very complicated stuff in such a good English. What I am saying is just a baby talk comparing to your deductions. I feel ashamed. I assume that you could have gotten PhD in political science or in history.

    Since you are much more competent in political questions, all of your words might be true. But, on the other hand, you may exaggerate some things, because nobody can have 100 percent trustful source of information these days.

    Anyway, I know you are an honest man. And I respect your opinion.

    And you're Daniela's friend after all. :) I doubt that her friend could be some jerk.

    About that vodka... I prefer tequila, actually...

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    @Black-biler hello Black biler, care to join the Seekers group? To share your thoughts on political systems and beliefs?