If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists)


  • You don't seem to understand what "God" means.


  • @korglife17 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    You don't seem to understand what "God" means.

    You don't seem to understand what a "rhetorical question meant to point out a fallacy in reasoning" is


  • @TheStrangest and @layla so does magic really exist or it's all fakes and tricks


  • @kaneki-kun said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @TheStrangest and @layla so does magic really exist or it's all fakes and tricks

    Guess


  • @thestrangest If I could guess I wouldn't have asked you. I'm not you neither am I in your upstairs 🤷


  • So I read a book (crazy right?) and it talked about taoism and everything coming from one. I'm an atheist but I'm open to the possibility of some larger force or whatever we want to call it. In the book it said, instead of coming from one maybe everything came from nothing. The example used was of the number 0 and how you can get it by adding a number to its negative counterpart. The book said the universe could have been made like that but backwards where opposites emerge from nothing. So maybe god is nothing so god technically doesn't exist?


  • Turns around, and squints eyes then says

    "oh it's @Kaneki-kun"

    walks to you, looks you in the eyes and says

    "Of course magic isn't real you protestant fuck bucket, I'm a vampire and i have never seen anyone use magic, it's all scientifically designed you daft cunt"

    P.S. Sup matey I've seen you on y99.in


  • @thestrangest Jesus was actually born in April. But since Jesus may not have historically existed and there is no definite evidence to prove when he was born... I guess my Insanity shall endure. If I believe in Adam and Eve then all these similar Gods make sense. Adam and Eve supposedly being the first people on Earth and spoke directly with God would have passed on their knowledge to their children, the children spread across the Earth and establish their own families, communities, and civilizations and over time misconstrue the original message of the First parents. However keeping intact the prophecy of the "Son" of God being born of a virgin, ministering and having 12 disciples, being crucified and raising from a tomb 3 days later... Isn't it interesting that all these cultures had similar Gods with almost exact origins, yet the chain ended with Jesus? Thank you for showing me this video. I think you are awesome @TheStrangest ! No joke.


  • @kaneki-kun said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @thestrangest If I could guess I wouldn't have asked you. I'm not you neither am I in your upstairs 🤷

    What do you mean by magic?

    Real magic(tricks declared as reality) is fake
    &
    Fake magic(tricks declared as tricks) is real


  • @alucard Are you retarded, Alucard uses black magic. Did you forget episode 3 when alexander sealed it with with his holy papers.


  • @sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @alucard Are you retarded, Alucard uses black magic. Did you forget episode 3 when alexander sealed it with with his holy papers.

    Oh heyyy little kid. Holy doesn't mean magic but look here ... Issa joke, almost everything in Hellsing is magic in some extension of the word (the ghouls aren't created with anything supernatural, they just have chips implanted in them or something)

    There are many superb things in hellsing but not magic as far as i remember


  • @alucard Alexander: "I purified this place, so filthy creatures can't use their black magic"
    straight from episode 3
    Key terms: Black Magic.


  • @sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @alucard Alexander: "I purified this place, so filthy creatures can't use their black magic"
    straight from episode 3
    Key terms: Black Magic.

    Guess i was wrong. Sorry m8


  • Satan create god and you want to know who create satan then just ask your mom


  • @mcurie well one of my ideas of the universe is that it continually repeats it self in infinity or time is infinite, but based off of random continuous events, one after another. So since it would go on infinitely, then theoretically anything and everything would exist and or could happen. Things out side of our perception. In the same way an ant doesn’t understand what the idea of what a car is. An infinite amount of ideas things and places we could hope to comprehend. Mabye such a thing that exists but can’t because the idea of existing doesn’t work with this thing or it does exist but it doesn’t because it does.
    How about that.


  • Tough one. There is so much we don't know. Universe is 13.7 billion years old. Before the Big Bang the entire universe was condensed into a size no bigger than the period at the end of a sentence.
    I think it comes down to faith. You either believe or you don't.
    Einstein died trying to prove the existence of God cause' he saw signs that caused him to believe that a higher intelligence was at work.


  • @mcurie If someone needs a creator He is not a god! I think we call Him God for a reason.. He's not created!


  • @mcurie If you are talking about THE God, then no one. How should one respond to the old schoolboy retort, “If everything needs a cause, who caused God?”

    First, philosophers and theologians do not maintain that whatever exists needs a cause. Instead, they propose that certain things need causes, such as things that have a beginning or things that don’t have to exist.

    If something came into existence at a certain point in time—that is, if it had a beginning—then there needs to be a cause, an explanation, for why it came to be. But if something exists outside of time—like God—then it does not need an explanation for its beginning, because it does not have one.

    In the same way, if something doesn’t have to exist, then we need an explanation for why it does exist. But if something does have to exist—if it is a necessary being, like God—then it does not need a further explanation.

    The things we perceive in the universe, including space and time themselves, appear to have had a beginning, and so they need a cause—a reason why they began in the first place.

    In the same way, each particular bit of matter in the universe doesn’t seem to be necessary. Each could not exist. Therefore, we need an explanation for why each does exist.

    Believing philosophers and theologians thus propose God as the ultimate explanation for these things. But since he is a necessary being that exists outside of time, he needs no further explanation.

    Indeed, the question “Who created God?” is nonsensical, because it amounts to asking “Who created an uncreated being?”

    He was always there, always has been, and always will be. He needs no explanation. He is the creater, he never had to be created.


  • @mcurie I'd love to answer your question, but unfortunately I don't know what you mean by God? What is your definition?


  • Simple: But first, let's put you in God's shoes. Let's say you are a videogame developer, and you create a game. Let's say the people can breathe underwater and there is no gravity. Now, are you subject to those laws? Can you breath underwater or float around? Of course not, because the laws of the video game do not apply to you because YOU CREATED those laws. Now, let's go back to God. God does not have a creator, because he made time. Time has a beginning and an end, because God created time, he is not subject to it. Therefore, he was not "begun", meaning he doesn't have a creator. Hope that made since, I understand that it can be a bit confusing or weird to think about!