@love_to_love_ said in Is god real? Your thoughts:
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Sin isnāt apart of gods plan thatās the devil the devil is the one who kills any kind of good in your life.
Both don't exist but your argument is invalid because god can easily get rid of the devil
God uses all the bad things in your life and makes them into good things like for example: if your girlfriend died and you canāt get over the pain you bump into a pretty girl she helps you push through and you fall in love and maybe get married.
That's demonstrabely wrong.
There are about 9 million children under 5 that die every year. Picture an asian tsunami of the sort we saw in 2004 killing a quarter of a million every 10 days, all of them under 5. About 24 thousand children a day, about a thousand an hour and 17 or so a minute. These children were generally only born to suffer and die since they hadn't had much time as conscious beings before they suffered horrible deaths and died. Picture the parents of these children and that means that before you can get to the end of this comment a which will take about 2 min 34 children would have died in horrible terror and agony, think of the parents of these children which most likely believe in god and are praying this second for their children to be saved, their prayers will not be answered. Any god who would allow children by the millions to die and saffer this way, for their parents to grieve this way either can do nothing to help them or doesn't care to, he is therefore either impotent" I'm just gonna add something to this. Worse than that most of these parents, many of these parents will be going to hell because they're praying to the wrong god. Just think about that. Through no fault of their own they were born in the wrong culture, where they got the wrong theology and they missed the revelation.ok there are 1.2 billion people in india at this moment, most of them are hindus, most of them therefore polytheists. No matter how good these people are, they are doomed. If you were praying to the monkey god hanoman you are doomed. You'll be tortured in hell for eternity. Now is there the slightest evidence for this? NO, it just says so in Mark 9, Matthew 13 and revelation 14. Perhaps you'll remember from the lord of the rings ot says that when the elves die they go to valanore so that they can be reborn in middle earth, i say that as a point of comparison. So god created the world knowing everything, he created the cultural isolation of the hibdus, he engineered the circumstances of their deaths in ignorance of revelation and then he created the penalty for this ignorance which is an eternity of consciousness torment in fire. On the other hand your run if the mill serial killer in America who spent his life raping and torturing children need only come to jesus on death row and after a final meal of fried chicken he's going to spend an eternity in heaven. If anything is clear here is that this is nothing but an immoral system
That is god I bet you know the story of marry and baby Jesus.
For goodness sake. You believe in VIRGIN BIRTH. WTF is wrong with you, we're in 2017 and you believe that a woman can get pregnant with a boy without having sex, you defenetly missed sex ed in school.
Marry had Jesus and he died on the cross so we could connect to him again.
Again. There is no historical proof that jesus even existed. You could say the same about harry potter and it would appear just as true
Baby Jesus was god in human flesh he wanted to go through all the pain that we went through because he loves us now thatās a good god.
"Harry potter got saved by his mom and she died to let him survive and kill voldimorte, now that's an amazing mom." She also died to save us from pain, both statements are equal. By the way "He loves". I'll just quote a wise man for this.
"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!"-George Carlin
The devil on the other hand comes only when your at your worst or when life is bad.
He used to be one of Godās angels and he thought he was better or more powerful than god and he turned into the devil also known as the father of lies or lord of lies.
WRONG. Lord of the flies, not lord of lies. Beelzebub means lord of the flies not lord of lies. Anyways, do i really have to repeat this, the same can be said about voldimort
"Voldimort on the other hand comes only when your at your worst or when life is bad.
He used to be one of Hoggwarts best students named Tom Elvis Jedusor and he thought he was better or more powerful than Hoggwarts and he turned into Voldimort also known as the one who's name shall not be spoken."
Anyways god can just get rid of the devil so your point that if god exists evil is not caused by god but by the devil is invalid.
God has been though what you what we all have been through
HARRY POTTER too. Stop talking about god as if we think he's realer than harry potter, we don't.
he has suffered like we have.
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he has been tempted like we have.
Who cares. There is not any proof that he even existed this is getting boring
He know it all and for that I trust him.
You don't have any good reason to believe he exists, end of story. And the idea that he is omniscient means that praying is pointless since if he always knew that he was gonna pray or not pray and had a plan for you wtf is the point of you praying? Changing his plan? What kind of omniscient god creates a plan that has to be changed because of things he always knew were gonna happen. It sounds stupid
If god didnāt love us he wouldnāt have died for us. And that is why I love him and trust him.š