Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?


  • @r_dx said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    @thestrangest Thanks for the videos. I watched them. You're taking everything literally

    Ok I'll stop you there. You don't get to decide what's literal and what's figurative just to backup your point.

    Here's the correct logical thinking.

    God created a perfect book : Quran

    it is perfect : it should be clear in it what's literal and what's figurative

    No book should be so ambiguous that 1 person who reads it becomes an ISIS member, another becames a loving ans kind person

    The default is that something should be taken literally if the quran doesn't say that it should be taken figuratively

    as the people are in the videos, and verse by verse reading will always give you a misconception of the meaning.

    Definition of a misconception:

    "a view or opinion that is incorrect because based on faulty thinking or understanding."

    Their thinking isn't fauly as i explained so they are not making misconceptions

    May i suggest you to do some research of your own ?Forget about the internet, go someplace quiet read the Qur'aan by yourself and the authentic Hadiths. ( btw i heard there are modern versions of the Qur'aan as well so be careful as to what you are using for research - meanings may be distorted )

    I'm an ex-muslim. I've likely read the Quran more than you. I'm a Palestinian who was born in Syria and i speak fluent Arabic

    You don't have to agree with me at the end don't worry, but atleast you can input your own references from your own understanding.

    I usually do that but this time it would have wasted too much time

    It would indeed be nice to slice off your fingers, as it's what you are using to spread these idk what to call them, but then again please do not take me literally.

    You just said that it would be nice for me to slice off my fingers but i shouldn't take that literally. Welllll. Go fuck yourself


  • @r_dx said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    @thestrangest just something else i'd like to add to make you understand, the Qur'aan is beautifully written, poetic to say the least when you read it in Arabic.

    Well i did read it in Arabic as i said and i fond it extremely purely written. There are more plot holes/loop holes in this fantasy book than there are in all books written in the past 10 years and the sexism, violence, homophobia, sadomasochism and support of slavery isn't nice either

    Now, you ever read one of those poems in which the author says something like " the room suddenly turned blue " you do realise the walls of the room didn't suddenly change color and turn blue by magic right ?
    There's another meaning that YOU need to SEARCH for. I'll end this here.

    Well. It could mean both. Unless you read the context you are right to take it as it is written. If there is no context that explains the meaning then the book is flaud because it doesn't clarify what it says. I already said this

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    @r_dx and by the way i am 90% sure that you didn't FINISH a single one of those videos


  • @thestrangest haha brilliant.


  • @thestrangest you know it's funny, you base everything on Qur'aan. If you were a muslim, you would've known better. I can be anyone from behind my screen too. And why so angry ? Just like @Guest who can take a picture with the Qur'aan after using so many foul words and yet claim to be a muslim. You know what this means right ? Or are you going to google it then tell me ?

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    @r_dx said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    @thestrangest you know it's funny, you base everything on Qur'aan.

    I don't base anything in my life on the quran

    If you were a muslim, you would've known better.

    I'm not a Muslim. I'm an atheist, I'm an EX-muslim which means that i used to be muslim

    I can be anyone from behind my screen too. And why so angry ? Just like @Guest who can take a picture with the Qur'aan after using so many foul words and yet claim to be a muslim.

    He didn't claim to be a muslim. He's also an ex-muslim. P.S. I'm @Guest. I deleted my account and made a new one and this is it

    You know what this means right ? Or are you going to google it then tell me ?

    I don't understand whay you're saying


  • @thestrangest ou are 14 years old kid . go drink some milk and have a sleep beside your mumy ... u know shit


  • @muslim said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    @thestrangest ou are 14 years old kid . go drink some milk and have a sleep beside your mumy ... u know shit

    1st my age has nothing to do with the validity of what i say

    2nd yes, i know a lot of shit


  • @thestrangest i can post the hole conversation between us if yu want . i dont mind .... i want it to be secret but u seemes to be going far.

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    @muslim The only thing it would show is that your English sucks


  • ISLAM Well its an acronym for I Suck Local American Men. You have been fighting amoung yourselves for over 5000 years. Its obviouse you cant get it right. Plus you still live in a frickin desert. Your not to bright.


  • Absolutely Not!!! It's even not a matter to discuss about.. Cuz the main view of all the religion is same and that is PEACE... It's the people who made it look like the way it is right now....


  • @letsgetnaked said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    ISLAM Well its an acronym for I Suck Local American Men. You have been fighting amoung yourselves for over 5000 years. Its obviouse you cant get it right. Plus you still live in a frickin desert. Your not to bright.

    Hey. Don't generalise. I hate the existence of all religions but you don't blame a cancer patient for having cancer


  • @itachi said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    Absolutely Not!!! It's even not a matter to discuss about.. Cuz the main view of all the religion is same and that is PEACE...

    Of course it is a religion of peace... a peace of you on the roof, some on the ground, some on the wall and the rest is missing

    It's the people who made it look like the way it is right now....

    Or maybe that it literally says in the Quran to cut off non-believers fingers and heads


  • "See, the day of the Lord is coming—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger. . . . I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty. . . . Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated". (Isaiah 13:9–16 NIV)

    Quote from the Bible. Doesn't mean my Christian neighbours are bad people.


  • @ze well said ^^


  • I didnt know i've been attached alot by so meany people . but wow ... that was a lot , actually the websit mngr is asking me to post another topic ... but its hard cuz some people are still .... (forget it)
    so ... i thank all of thos who supported the cuz as a free thinker and as humans . and i wanna say to those who made my reputation -21 or something ... i respect your point of view i dont know what makes so say thato think that way . but u have your reasons .
    about my english ... yeah its bad but at least i can comunicat . i dare anyone of you to talk to me about this subject in my langauge. i double dear you ... talking is easier thatn doing . i speak 4 languages ... most of you guys dont . s hold back and talk befor youthhing . and btw english is my 3rd language my first is franch....
    thank you all


  • @ze said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    "See, the day of the Lord is coming—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger. . . . I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty. . . . Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated". (Isaiah 13:9–16 NIV)

    Quote from the Bible. Doesn't mean my Christian neighbours are bad people.

    Hello there Mr. Christian.

    Im just gonna coppy paste something i said to someone else for you to read

    1st the truth is not a matter of opinion
    2nd thing, you do not have proof that the bible was written/commanded to be written by a god THEREFORE until there is evidence there is no good reason to believe in such BS. There is no good reason to believe in a god and of course faith which by définition a belief without evidence is useless thing and should never be used, why you ask?

    Well let's start by talking about faith.
    i didn't chose to be an atheist it happened because i say no sufficient evidence behind the religious claims, if there was evidence i would believe and of course faith is not a reliable pathway to truth since it can lead you to true and wrong conclusions with incredible inaccuracy so using it is useless.

    Any way i have proof that the Bible is Sexist, Violent... and that it's unlikely that an invisible man in the sky commanded its writting, My proof is that an all loving, all good god wouldn't have ordered man to write down all of these things in his book:

    SEXISM

    “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)

    “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)

    HOMOPHOBIA

    “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)

    VIOLENCE AND SADOMASOCHISM(loving a person you feer):

    “This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

    “Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)

    “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

    “So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)

    “And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)

    ‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)

    https://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/leviticus-20-13-if-a-man-lies-with-a-male-as-with-a-woman-both-of-them-have-committed-an-abomination-they-shall-surely-be-put-to.png

    SLAVERY

    Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.

    Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word “servant”, “bondservant”, or “manservant” instead of “slave” to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is. While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn’t mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.

    The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

    The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.

    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

    Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?

    The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?

    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

    So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and has sex with them!

    What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing

    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

    You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

    Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

    In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong.

    The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

    And these are just a couple of verses

    P.S. usually  after i show a Christian these verses he tells me that it doesn't matter because most of these are in the old testament, well the 10 commandments are also in the old testament so do you also not want the 10 commandements? And by the way, there are no scenarios where a just and all good god would say “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” or “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” or “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” and a lot of other verses. And if you are going to say that you don't believe in these verses because they are in the old testament (by the way there are verses i mentioned outside the old testament but k) you'd have to say that you also don't believe in the 10 commandments since they are also in the old testament


  • @muslim naaah bruh Islam is a religion of peace and equality.


  • @ze said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:

    "See, the day of the Lord is coming—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger. . . . I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty. . . . Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated". (Isaiah 13:9–16 NIV)

    Quote from the Bible. Doesn't mean my Christian neighbours are bad people.

    Hello there Mr. Christian.

    Im just gonna coppy paste something i said to someone else for you to read

    1st the truth is not a matter of opinion

    1st the truth is not a matter of opinion
    2nd thing, you do not have proof that the bible was written/commanded to be written by a god THEREFORE until there is evidence there is no good reason to believe in such BS. There is no good reason to believe in a god and of course faith which by définition a belief without evidence is useless thing and should never be used, why you ask?

    Well let's start by talking about faith.
    i didn't chose to be an atheist it happened because i say no sufficient evidence behind the religious claims, if there was evidence i would believe and of course faith is not a reliable pathway to truth since it can lead you to true and wrong conclusions with incredible inaccuracy so using it is useless.

    Any way i have proof that the Bible is Sexist, Violent... and that it's unlikely that an invisible man in the sky commanded its writting, My proof is that an all loving, all good god wouldn't have ordered man to write down all of these things in his book:

    SEXISM

    “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)

    “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)

    HOMOPHOBIA

    “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)

    VIOLENCE AND SADOMASOCHISM(loving a person you feer):

    “This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

    “Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)

    “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

    “So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)

    “And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, ‘If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord’s, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.’ Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, ‘Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.’” (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)

    ‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)

    https://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/leviticus-20-13-if-a-man-lies-with-a-male-as-with-a-woman-both-of-them-have-committed-an-abomination-they-shall-surely-be-put-to.png

    SLAVERY

    Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do. Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments. The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.

    Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants. Many translations of the Bible use the word “servant”, “bondservant”, or “manservant” instead of “slave” to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is. While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn’t mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.

    The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

    The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.

    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

    Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?

    The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?

    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

    So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and has sex with them!

    What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing

    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

    You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

    Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

    In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn’t know they were doing anything wrong.

    The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

    And these are just a couple of verses

    P.S. usually  after i show a Christian these verses he tells me that it doesn't matter because most of these are in the old testament, well the 10 commandments are also in the old testament so do you also not want the 10 commandements? And by the way, there are no scenarios where a just and all good god would say “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” or “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” or “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” and a lot of other verses. And if you are going to say that you don't believe in these verses because they are in the old testament (by the way there are verses i mentioned outside the old testament but k) you'd have to say that you also don't believe in the 10 commandments since they are also in the old testament