Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?
Muslim last edited by sarah
tell me what do you think about islam from your point of view as a free thinker not what u hear from the media
Jimmy1708 last edited by
@layla thx ikr u r right of course
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i don't think so, if you review history many religion have a period of "terrorism", Catholicism it's not the exception the holy war, the holy inquisition, murders, the only difference is that before it was not called terrorism. the problem I think is the misinterpretation that they give to their own book
I think Islam is a very peaceful religion. I know this because I have many Muslim friends. Islam is only presented as a religion of terrorism on the media because some Muslims decided to make bad choices, going against what the religion stands for. Not all Muslims are that way.
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@ahmed-a-hussein tell'em man ^^
@lucifer_ oh yes i definitely am, i have not read what he has written yet, I'm just 90% sure it is full of grammatical errors and that it might be incomprehensible. it is about to be 1 am here in France and i have to go to sleep. please leave me a notification by responding to this comment, upvoting it or whatever so i do not forget. I'll respond when i have the time
@ahmed-a-hussein I am sorry.
Because he is going to write a way bigger response.
Best of luck mate!
Ahmed0 last edited by Ahmed0
@thestrangest Ok, you mis-understand EVERYTHING basically, you just have been informed with human invention false information, i will try to correct some..
First: about the world being created in 6 days
i believe in science and religion, Allah created us to learn and benefit ourselves and nature, the 6 days thing according to Allah = Billions of years in our calculation, the reason why it's only 6 days is wise thing from Allah he wants the human nature to know that everything in this life comes by time and passion. and if allah wanted, he would create this whole universe in one second. i don't say that sience is wrong about it, but i am pretty sure that we have limit and we can only know what god have made visible and clear to us to know and learn (And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.(al isra 17) here's another proof at the day difference theory from el quran: A supplicant asked for a punishment bound to happen(1)To the disbelievers; of it there is no preventer.(2)[It is] from Allah, owner of the ways of ascent.(3)The angels and the Spirit will ascend to Him during a Day the extent of which is fifty thousand years.(4)So be patient with gracious patience.(5)Indeed, they see it [as] distant,(6)But We see it [as] near.(7)On the Day the sky will be like murky oil,(8)And the mountains will be like wool,(9)And no friend will ask [anything of] a friend,(10) (Al-Ma'arij from 1 -10 verses)
Second: about the violent thing
you mis-understood all the verses of the quran, allah ordered our teacher Muhammed (Peace and pray be upon him) to fight elmushrkeen because in islamic history that you seem to know nothing about it elmushrkeen who will start (foray) or (war) against the muslims and islam and always wanted to kill our teacher Muhammed, that's why Allah ordered elmuslmeen to fight and allowed violent to defend not to attack and destroy like a lot of people believe, and when Elmuslmeen would invade countries to share the islam if the country they would invade surrendered and didn't fight, elmuslmeen don't fight but if they attack them, they defend themselves that's the only case of violent islam has allowed. and there's also war laws that you MUST NOT EVER break in islam and if you searched for it you will find it's all with peace not against it. like : 1-Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. (el bakara: 190 verse)
2-And if you punish [an enemy, O believers], punish with an equivalent of that with which you were harmed. But if you are patient - it is better for those who are patient.(completely against violent verse) (An-Nahl verse:126)
Third: about islam doesn't have equality between man and woman
it never was against the equality, Allah has gave each sex his rights equally if men are above woman by one degree it's wise thing from Allah, and the human can never know everything, and the thing about( men can have sex with them whenever they want) allah only allowed it in case of marriage and right slaves and prohibited zinah, and as science discovered that catching STD happens from this Case it's clear to see why Zinah is prohibited
Fourth: about the gay and lesbian thing
when allah Created our teacher Adam and His wife Hawah, they were the first humans ever created and they were created with the normal human nature that god created that man and woman should mate to get kids, Islam Prohibited anything against the normal human nature including gay sex and lesbian sex bec it's against the normal human nature god created
I studied islamic history since i was a kid and the main thing that makes me believe in it is that THERE IS NO IN THIS WHOLE WORLD a GREAT book like Holy quran, and if you find any similar book like it i will say that islam is crap and i won't believe in it. i have a lot more evidence to tell you that islam is the right religion but you just won't care at all, you disbelived in WHY you are mainly created, WE and El-Jinn were both created to obey Allah, follow his orders and stay away from his prohibtions, Islam wants people to have better life in this world and in the afterlife, we weren't created just by accident,IF you had studied EL quran and history well YOU will know that in quran it's believed that islam well rule the world twice and Sons of israel will rule it twice and that's what's happening and what Will Happen, Israel ruled the world first then islam ruled and now it's ISRAEL and USA controlling everything, and 2nd rule of islam is going to come when a person of the same name of our Teacher Muhammed ibn abd allah will come and lead all the muslmeen from all over the world and the majority will be from europe and Christ Issa will come down and fight with elmuslmeen and christians will disblieve in him AND FIGHT HIM. fight the true christ that they believe in....
I am not just predicting all these are facts that are happening and IS GOING TO happen and you are going to see.....(if you have life to live these events)
@thestrangest u r not a ex-muslim
Suck a dick, i don't have to convince you of anything
u r a lier
Suck a dick
u r anti-islam
and pretending that u r ex-muslim
no one wants to hear ur lies and shits
Good because i don't lie or audibly shit
and if someone would truly follows quraan
Which i used to do. By the way "quran" has 1 'a'
then he will not kill even an ant....
Bullshit. He would kill a lot more than an ant, homosexuals and adulterers are just examples. Read my last post
so dont talk about something u dont know dummy...
Suck a dick. I know this much better than you
@ahmed-a-hussein said in Do you think ISLAM is a religion of terrorism ?:
@thestrangest That's what they want you to think, Terrorists fight with the name of islam and they are supplied by them, (THEY) don't want you to think it's a peaceful religion or even think about knowing what's it's all about
Dude shut the fuck up, I'm Palestinian, I speak fluent Arabic, have read the Quran and i used to be a muslim. The quran doesn't only allow violent behaviour but supports it, want proof?
read this(a reply written by me about 5 months ago using my previous account called "AlwaysStranger" which used to be n°1 on the best-posters) list entire comment with a quran in your hand or while being on on https://quran.com.
(This is a different edited comment from the last 5 that are similar to it)
Not all Muslims believe in islam at the same level. That's why not all muslims are violent. When i was a muslim i used to believe some stupid shit but i wasn't able to kill people even though I'm pretty sure if i staid in syria long enough i could have become a crazy murderer because of Islam. The reason why I'm cursing so much is because i have lost hope that you will doubt you're beliefs, because you ( @Muslim ) don't believe in evolution even though it is a fact in science, so you basically don't believe in science. Even though you don't believe in science, you are saying that scientists have discovered that
1.ants are made of glass
2.that the moon was cut in 2
Even though they clearly haven't because if they did i would be able to find 1 single scientific article about it even though i couldn't, these things you're saying are crazy.
The quran says that the world was created in 6 days, which when compared to the fact of the big bang which shows how many billions of years it took for the world to be created. It Is kind of like saying that it takes 30 minutes and not 9 months for a baby to be born.
If you don't believe in evolution or the big bang then you need to know 2 things:
1.Science is true no matter if you believe in it or not
If you still don't realise you're wrong for not believing in science here is a website to help you understand that evolution and the big bang theories are true
Let me prove to you that islam is not a religion of peace:
Part 1. Violent verses:
"Fight against those who do not obey Allah and do not believe in Allah or the Last Day and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and His messenger even though they are of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya With willing submissions and feel themselves subdued" surah 9 verse 29
“When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them. Capture them. Besiege them. Lie in wait for them in each and every ambush but if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give zacat then leave their way free.” surah 9 verse 5
“They ask you about fighting during the sacred months. Tell them, fighting therein is a great sin but a greater sin is to prevent mankind from following the way of Allah, to disbelieve in him.” surah 2 verse 217
“Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” Surah 2 verse 191
“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” Surah 47 verse 4 (smite means cut, so this means that when you will meet the unbelievers, cut their necks)
“When your Lord revealed to the angels, ‘Truly I am with you. So, keep firm those who have believed. I will strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved. So, strike them at the necks and cut off their fingers.’” Surah 8 verse 12
“Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” surah 9 verse 123
“Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow Him are merciful to one another but harsh to the disbeliever.” Surah 48 verse 29
“They wish that you would reject faith as they have rejected faith unless that you would all be equal. So, don’t take protectors from them unless they emigrate in the way of Allah but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”Surah 4 verse 89
Part 2. Verses against equality
“Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has made one superior to the other and because they spend to support them from their means. Therefore, righteous women are obedient and they guard in the husband’s absence what Allah orders them to guard. And, as to those women from whom you fear disobedience, give them a warning, send them to separate beds, and beat them.” Surah 4 verse 34
"Women are mens "fields," and men can have sex with them whenever they want" Surah 2 verse 223
"A woman is worth one-half of a man, and men are above women" Surah 4 verse 11, Surah 2 verse 282 ans Surah 2 verse 228
"Muslim men may marry up to 4 wives, including prepubecent girls, and can own sex slaves" Surah 4 verse 3, Surah 65 verse 4
"Women must cover themselves and be seen only by relatives, eunuchs, slaves and children who have not yet had sex with women" Surah 24 verse 31
"And (We sent) Lot when he said to his people: What! do you commit an indecency which any one in the world has not done before you? Most surely you come to males in lust besides females; nay you are an extravagant people. And the answer of his people was no other than that they said: Turn them out of your town, surely they are a people who seek to purify (themselves). So We delivered him and his followers, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind. And We rained upon them a rain; consider then what was the end of the guilty." Surah 7 verses 80-84
"And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them. And as for the two who are guilty of indecency from among you, give them both a punishment; then if they repent and amend, turn aside from them; surely Allah is oft-returning (to mercy), the Merciful."surah 4 verse 15-16
Now do you understand why I'm angry?
Because muslims say that the quran and islam are perfect but look at this.
And the punishment for leaving islam is death:
research has shown (you can google this) that 88% of Muslims in Egypt and 62% of Muslims in Pakistan favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim religion.
So basically a lot of Muslims want me dead.
So don't tell me don't attack islam when a lot of Muslims want to kill me.
If you don't agree with me then please just explain calmly and in a way i can understand
P.S. I'm 100% sure that all of the verses i mentioned are not taken out of context or not translated correctly. But even if you think that 1 or 2 are taken out of context or not translated correctly, it doesn't matter because the rest of the verses are not
And if anybody changed their minds after reading this,tell me because i would like to know. ( :
(THEY) are fighting it because they know that if people looked to this religion in the way they don't want it the world is going to change
Yes, change to shit
they are trying to make people stay as far away as they can from it.
Sure that's why they want to make an Islamic State and convert people to Islam with their lives
some people searched for it and believed in it and others searched for it and learned it but kept neglecting that it's the right religion
Bullshit. Islam is not the right religion. There is no right religion, all religion is made up bullshit. Now you might ask "what if you're wrong"
What if i'm wrong? sigh
This is a shorter way to say "what about pascal's wager". If you don't remember whar pascal's wager is, it basically says
1.if you don't believe and you are right you lose nothing
2.if you don't believe and you are wrong then you'll burn in hell forever
3.if you do believe and you gain a heaven
4.f you do believe and you are wrong you lose nothing
Here you can clearly say that believing is better than disbelieving but the 1st error in this argument is that it assumes that a person chooses what they believe which for anyone after a half second of thought is clearly bullshit.
i didn't chose to be an atheist it happened because i say no sufficient evidence behind the religious claims, if there was evidence i would believe and of course faith is not a reliable pathway to truth since it can lead you to true and wrong conclusions with incredible inaccuracy so using it is useless.
2nd error in this argument is that it's like "Oh, either non-belief can be correct, there clearly is no other option" and any thinking brain can understand why it is bullshit. You can be wrong about
(MYTHOLOGY|Corresponding hell like thingy)
Albanian mythology Ferri
Aztec mythology Mictlan
Babylonian mythology Irkalla
Buddhist mythology Naraka (also Niraya)
Celtic mythology Annwn, Mag Mell
Chinese mythology / taoism Diyu 地獄
Egyptian mythology Aaru, Duat, Neter-khertet, Amenti
Estonian mythology Toonela
Fijian mythology see Melanesian mythology
Finnish mythology Tuonela
Georgian mythology Kveskneli
Germanic Hel, Niflheim
Main article: Greek underworld
Elysium, Asphodel Meadows, Tártaros
Hindu mythology Naraka or Yamaloka, Patala
Hittite mythology Dankuš daganzipaš (dark earth)
Hopi mythology Maski
Hungarian mythology Alvilág
Inca mythology Uku Pacha
Inuit mythology Adlivun
Islamic mythology Jahannam, Naar, Barzakh, Araf
Jain mythology Naraka, Adho Loka (the lower world)
Japanese mythology/Shinto Yomi 黄泉, Ne-no-Kuni 根の国, Jigoku 地獄
Jewish/Hebrew mythology Sheol, Gehenna, Abaddon, Azazel, Tehom, Tophet, Tzoah Rotachat, Dudael
Korean mythology "Ji-Ok" 지옥 地獄
Latvian mythology Aizsaule
Malay mythology Alam Ghaib (The unseen realm)
Māori mythology Hawaiki, Rarohenga
Mapuche mythology Pellumawida, Degin, Wenuleufu, Ngullchenmaiwe
Maya mythology Metnal, Xibalba
Melanesian mythology (includes Fijian) Bulu, Burotu, Murimuria, Nabagatai, Tuma
Norse mythology Gimlé, Hel, Niflhel, Vingólf
Oromo mythology Ekera
Persian mythology Duzakh
Philippine mythology Kasanaan
Polynesian mythology Avaiki, Bulotu, Iva, Lua-o-Milu, Nga- Atua, Pulotu, Rangi Tuarea, Te Toi-o-nga-Ranga, Uranga-o-Te-Ra
Pueblo mythology Shipap
Roman mythology Inferno, Avernus
Romanian mythology Tărâmul Celălalt
Slavic mythology Nav, Podsvetie, Peklo, Vyraj
Sumerian mythology Dilmun, Kur, Irkalla, Hubur
Vodou mythology Guinee
Wagawaga (New Guinea) mythology Hiyoyoa
And of course non-of these including your 'Jahannam' are scientifically backed up so the chance of their existence is miniscule and the chance that all of them including yours are wrong is huge so disbelief would safe but even if it wasn't safe a dis-belief can't be wrong even if the thing you don't believe in is true aslong as there is no evidence for the thing you disbelieve in.
So you have to see that saying "What if you're wrong" is a very very overused useless argument
everyone has his own mindset, but if you really think about the whole thing and that terrorists use (ISLAM) as there main reason for their crimes
BECAUSE IT IS
you will find that (THEY) are trying to keep people's minds under the shadow. (THEY) = The world
The world is fine. People are slowly turning more and more atheist. The world doesn't need religion, god is not great, religion poisons everything.
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unkowndude117 last edited by
@muslim definitely terrorism
Ahmed0 last edited by
@thestrangest That's what they want you to think, Terrorist fight with the name of islam and they are supplied by them, (THEY) don't want you to think it's peaceful religion or even think about knowing what's it's all about, (THEY) are fighting it because they know that if people looked to this religion in the way they don't want it the world is going to change, they are trying to make people stay as far away as they can from it. some people searched for it and believed in it and others searched for it and learned it but kept neglecting that it's the right religion, everyone has his own mindset, but if you really think about the whole thing and that terrorists use (ISLAM) as there main reason for their crimes, you will find that (THEY) are trying to keep people's minds under the shadow. (THEY) = The world
smart man last edited by
I don't think islam is a religion terrorism thats all.
Jimmy1708 last edited by
@thestrangest u r not a ex-muslim, u r a lier, u r anti-islam, and pretending that u r ex-muslim, no one wants to hear ur lies and shits, and if someone would truly follows quraan, then he will not kill even an ant....so dont talk about something u dont know dummy...
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I like this
Muslim last edited by
@ashley3 thats nice of you . thank you ^^
Ashley3 last edited by
No it is not as with anything it is the extremist who are crazy and may be terroists
Fallout Three last edited by
@muslim Islam is supposed to be a peaceful religion while people are turning it into a goddamn Bloodbath and it's ridiculous I mean Islam is supposed to be peace finding beauty within it within a set of
Yousha Mustafa last edited by
Islam is not a religion of terror or war infact no religion contains terror . It is the extremists who are tying to cause terror.they use the cause of religion in their dirty works. Every religion contains ️ so do not humilate each other and live a peaceful life