• @Kakashi

    Then why do we have it?? (Sense of right and wrong)

    Maybe our complex surroundings and our intellect developed it. Not very sure about this one...

    It's sole duty is making us survive and propagate genes.

    Its only optional duh.....

    Nope it's optional for us who think. Animals don't decide for themselves. It's a compulsion for them. And they're made to like it.

    I detect a contradiction in that statement, you're saying its a duty at first (which means it has to be done), and you're saying that we're free to "choose" to accept it or not..... I believe the latter is right.

    Predetermined duty as in assigned task. Nature didn't ask us to choose! But guess what we can xP

    Everything that transpires around us, the things we percieve, is all about and a part of nature....

    Not just that, every decision we make is one of the paths nature shows us

    So you're ruling this off as coincidence? I believe everything happens for a reason, and that happens to be a work of nature.....

    I don't see us reaching an agreement here 😁
    Yes, for now i believe we're a coincidence.
    There's a recent post about if things happen for a reason. If you want you can see my views about that there o.o

    And i maintain that nature doesn't give an f word.

    Being vegan or not is subjective, I never talked about that. We are omnivores and its an individual's choice.

    being vegan or not is all about one's preference.

    If we went according to nature as you say, it wouldn't have been subjective. No bear would give up fish because it thinks it's hurting them or even because it doesn't like their taste.

    you can't deny anyone of their right to life. And being "useless" is subjective. No one's here to fulfill anyone else's purpose. If someone's "useless" to you or someone else, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't live. This is called genocide.

    I am not denying anyone. And we're not the ones who decide here. It sure is rude to say, but most of us wouldn't qualify as fit to survive according to nature's criteria without the aid of all this modern technology.


  • @Alte said in Do you enjoy being a human?:

    Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you?

    Do you? 😶


  • @Kana We're not bears lol, there's a difference mehh...

    Nope it's optional for us who think.

    Explain this :joy:

    Nature didn't ask us to choose!

    She gave us the ability to choose, so yeah


  • @Kakashi

    @Kana We're not bears lol, there's a difference mehh...

    Exactly. We're not bears (or any other animals)
    We're humans hence we can deviate from nature's guidelines.

    Explain this :joy:

    Simply put, animals don't (aren't evolved enough to) (aren't allowed by nature to) think about whether they want to have kids or not.

    She gave us the ability to choose, so yeah

    We evolved to be able to choose. Animals (other) don't choose. They're closer to the "roots" than we are xD


  • @Alte lol, so true... again, its all hormones :')


  • NOT AT ALL!


  • @PAFFA Reason?


  • @Kana Now tell me, how is animal intelligence measured?


  • @Alte said in Do you enjoy being a human?:

    @Kana Now tell me, how is animal intelligence measured?

    Through the ability to think and act outside the set (instinctive) behaviours?
    -.-


  • @Kana Because that's what humans do right? The tasks given to the animals are often based on human behavior. Not to mension we kind of invented intelligence, it's not some kind of a universal thing that was shown to us so we know how smart we are. I consider them dumb not because i measured their intelligence, but because i can predict what its going to do.


  • @Alte

    Not to mention we kind of invented intelligence

    We didn't. It's something brains are capable of.

    i can predict what its going to do.

    Not always. That's where their intelligence comes in.


  • @Kana I mean we defined what it is. We didn't found a piece of paper saying
    intelligence
    /ɪnˈtɛlɪdʒ(ə)ns/
    noun
    1.the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
    And everyone was like, OMG!
    No not always, just most of the time, so i still see them as food.


  • @Kana said in Do you enjoy being a human?:

    @Alte said in Do you enjoy being a human?:

    Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you?

    Do you? 😶

    I do not. I hate how much our actions are based on emotions, you never really know if what you said or did was not affected by how you feel at that moment. I hate that our brain can only use what we know and not invent something new. I hate being in this universe, well more like knowing that i am, and this thing might as well collapse and we never existed. I hate our flawed cells that are programmed to die. I hate how intelligent we are(compared to animals :P), yet someone can be ruined by greed, power. I hate how people describe human flaws as "That's just being a human", human my a*s, pathetic excuse. I hate how much control such thing as lust has over me, and seeing other men losing even self respect over that hole. I hate that we have to sleep. I hate i cant control my thoughts more or access memory stored deeper in my brain. I hate that i can be hurt by words. Something like that, ya know.


  • @Alte said in Do you enjoy being a human?:

    @Kana I mean we defined what it is. We didn't found a piece of paper saying
    intelligence
    /ɪnˈtɛlɪdʒ(ə)ns/
    noun
    1.the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
    And everyone was like, OMG!
    No not always, just most of the time, so i still see them as food.

    😂😂😂 We named it. It always existed.


  • @Kana That's what i meant lol. Do i have to check the definition of define?


  • @Alte

    I hate how much our actions are based on emotions, you never really know if what you said or did was not affected by how you feel at that moment.

    We can train our brains to be better.

    I hate that our brain can only use what we know and not invent something new.

    Creativity exists.

    I hate being in this universe, well more like knowing that i am, and this thing might as well collapse and we never existed.

    We want to last. But that's against nature's rules.

    I hate our flawed cells that are programmed to die. I hate how intelligent we are(compared to animals :P), yet someone can be ruined by greed, power.

    Perfection is against the rules too.

    I hate how people describe human flaws as "That's just being a human", human my a*s, pathetic excuse. I hate how much control such thing as lust has over me, and seeing other men losing even self respect over that hole.

    We can modify our desires by exercising control. But it's difficult ofc. We're humans (flawed creatures) after all :p

    I hate that we have to sleep.

    Me i hate that we have to poop 😩

    I hate i cant control my thoughts more or access memory stored deeper in my brain. I hate that i can be hurt by words. Something like that, ya know.

    Nature is all about change. We are working (evolving) to reach that super being state you talk of. But we have already come a long way. Have to be glad we're not cavemen.


  • @Alte NO


  • @NutellaBigGoat said in Do you enjoy being a human?:

    @Alte NO

    Aren't you a goat?


  • @Kana said in Do you enjoy being a human?:

    @Alte

    I hate how much our actions are based on emotions, you never really know if what you said or did was not affected by how you feel at that moment.

    We can train our brains to be better.

    Yes, but the time is so limited.

    I hate that our brain can only use what we know and not invent something new.

    Creativity exists.

    I kind of expected i should describe what i was thinking more. Like we can put together things that already exist, and that only makes me wonder how much theres is we cant even think of.

    I hate being in this universe, well more like knowing that i am, and this thing might as well collapse and we never existed.

    We want to last. But that's against nature's rules.

    Yea, i guess shes like a mother, and we are the teenagers. I wonder what happens when we grow up (advance far enough).

    I hate our flawed cells that are programmed to die. I hate how intelligent we are(compared to animals :P), yet someone can be ruined by greed, power.

    Perfection is against the rules too.

    I don't think it is, the only thing that is not perfect is nature. Kind of like.. not perfect in a perfect way. And in a perfect way for the universe, not us.

    I hate how people describe human flaws as "That's just being a human", human my a*s, pathetic excuse. I hate how much control such thing as lust has over me, and seeing other men losing even self respect over that hole.

    We can modify our desires by exercising control. But it's difficult ofc. We're humans (flawed creatures) after all :p

    And i've been doing that for a long time, but there is no way of getting it out of your system, and it drives me nuts. Also drives my nuts.. No nvm.

    I hate that we have to sleep.

    Me i hate that we have to poop 😩

    Wait what?.. i thought girls don't poop haha.

    I hate i cant control my thoughts more or access memory stored deeper in my brain. I hate that i can be hurt by words. Something like that, ya know.

    Nature is all about change. We are working (evolving) to reach that super being state you talk of. But we have already come a long way. Have to be glad we're not cavemen.

    Doesn't matter if we were, it sounds terrible only because we have experienced better times.


  • @Alte

    Yes, but the time is so limited.

    Yea but if we really want it we'll get it.

    Like we can put together things that already exist, and that only makes me wonder how much theres is we cant even think of.

    It's still creativity that makes some think what others never would. Eg. Einstein and Hawking...
    But agreed we have our limits.

    Yea, i guess shes like a mother, and we are the teenagers.

    If we are to personify, I think of nature more like an emotionless experimenter.

    I wonder what happens when we grow up (advance far enough).

    Our time will be over soon. Whatever stage of development we are at.

    I don't think it is, the only thing that is not perfect is nature. Kind of like.. not perfect in a perfect way. And in a perfect way for the universe, not us.

    O.o
    I maintain perfection is against the law. If things were perfect there won't be room for change and it would all come to a standstill maybe.

    And i've been doing that for a long time, but there is no way of getting it out of your system, and it drives me nuts. Also drives my nuts.. No nvm.

    Monks and so many people have done it!😂

    Wait what?.. i thought girls don't poop haha.

    Girls are more human than you may think 😂😂😂

    Doesn't matter if we were, it sounds terrible only because we have experienced better times.

    Point.