@Kana they're not slaves to nature... they are a part of nature, just like we are.... and we're no far from the so-called "beasts" as a species.... its best if our species hang on to the natural flow... coz nature knows best in every aspect of reality, invluding the way we ought to live and all other things..... stick close to your roots people!
@Alte I enjoy it for the most part but some days I get jealous of how easy my dog's life is
@Alte I feel its a previlige being a human and all... after all, this form is the latest and the most advanced model in evolution... who doesn't love having the latest phone with the most specs? :joy:
OmAe Wa MoU sHiNdEiRu
@SoFa_king_Cody speaking of your dog, its lucky af dude, think of all the dogs on this planet, this one has sheer dumb luck to have an awesome owner that takes good care of it :))
@Kakashi said in Do you enjoy being a human?:
@Kana they're not slaves to nature... they are a part of nature, just like we are.... and we're no far from the so-called "beasts" as a species.... its best if our species hang on to the natural flow... coz nature knows best in every aspect of reality, invluding the way we ought to live and all other things..... stick close to your roots people!
Hang on to the natural flow as in? Give up to lust and be a slave of emotions? Because that's what those were hardwired in our heads for.
Imo, we don't need nature to guide us. Nature isn't a guide. Nature doesn't care about us going to Mars or any other scientific research.
We are working against nature when we find ways to better our lives. More people live today than would have been allowed if we sticked to what nature wanted. Survival of the fittest isn't working anymore. People with money survive. Nature wants us to fight tooth and nail to survive and not care about the weak because they aren't supposed to exist.
We actually have come a far way from being a slave to nature.
It's true that our most basic desires are still those that nature instilled in us. But we get to choose.
Nature will have it's way tho. As much as we like to think we're winning, it's nature's pattern. But it's safe to say for now we're having a good time defying nature.
@Kakashi Well thanks :) I spoil her like crazy haha
@Alte I have my good n bad times but thats the only thing i know.I havnt experienced any other forms..
@Kana said in Do you enjoy being a human?:
@Kakashi said in Do you enjoy being a human?:
@Kana they're not slaves to nature... they are a part of nature, just like we are.... and we're no far from the so-called "beasts" as a species.... its best if our species hang on to the natural flow... coz nature knows best in every aspect of reality, invluding the way we ought to live and all other things..... stick close to your roots people!
Hang on to the natural flow as in? Give up to lust and be a slave of emotions? Because that's what those were hardwired in our heads for.
No, not all give in to lust. That's so primal (imo). And, I was talking about something called "intuition", and our consciousness, that always reminds us of what is good and bad....
Imo, we don't need nature to guide us. Nature isn't a guide. Nature doesn't care about us going to Mars or any other scientific research.
It is nature herself, that guides us to Mars. We are nature. But I feel that since we're capable of independent thought, there's a possibility that we may stray from the path showed to us by nature. Look at what the humanls are doing; they destroy their environment that sustains them. They're like cancer to the world, although not the entirety of them.
We are working against nature when we find ways to better our lives. More people live today than would have been allowed if we sticked to what nature wanted.
Exactly, that's my point. Nature gave us intelligence to use it in a sensible way, or at least that should be used that way. Plus, since we're a part of nature as well, we have a right to sustain and expand our species, but we must also consider the needs of the other species.
Survival of the fittest isn't working anymore. People with money survive.
Girl, ever since we were born into this planet, its been all about survival of the clever in this epoch....
Nature wants us to fight tooth and nail to survive and not care about the weak because they aren't supposed to exist.
And why do the so-called "weak" exist now? Because nature herself allows it.
We actually have come a far way from being a slave to nature.
Again, we are nature.
It's true that our most basic desires are still those that nature instilled in us. But we get to choose.
Nature will have it's way tho. As much as we like to think we're winning, it's nature's pattern. But it's safe to say for now we're having a good time defying nature.
It won't last for long at this rate..... You reap what you sow :))
@Kakashi But imagine, if your phones performance depended on it's mood :D
@Kana I kind of agree with the slave idea, because, they dont have the intelligence to understand that their brain is made to work that way. If it feels hor*y it wont think twice, if it feels scared it'll run (or attack), like a robot, gets an input and acts accordingly.
I was talking about something called "intuition", and our consciousness, that always reminds us of what is good and bad....
Intuition and conscience are part of our being as an animal, like our anatomy is. But since we can manipulate and choose (i am sure, more than other animals), we have an upper hand. I don't think choosing between right and wrong (in a moral sense) is in nature's propaganda. It's sole duty is making us survive and propagate genes.
It is nature herself, that guides us to Mars. We are nature.
Look at what the humanls are doing; they destroy their environment that sustains them. They're like cancer to the world, although not the entirety of them.
So you choose to accept only our accomplishments as the "path shown by nature"?
But I feel that since we're capable of independent thought, there's a possibility that we may stray from the path showed to us by nature.
why do the so-called "weak" exist now? Because nature herself allows it.
It's more like nature lets us do what is in our power.
Like there's infinite paths between the start and end, no fixed "shown" path. Whatever happens the destination is fixed. Like a free run game maybe?
Nature gave us intelligence to use it in a sensible way,or at least that should be used that way.
Nature doesn't give a damn. We just happened to evolve to become this intelligent.
Plus, since we're a part of nature as well, we have a right to sustain and expand our species.
Not right, it's our predetermined duty, which we can choose to accept or not..(being smart beings and all)
but we must also consider the needs of the other species.
See? That's what i mean, we can choose.
People can decide between being vegan or not being. If we let nature guide us, we would all be omnivores without giving a thought about it.
Girl, ever since we were born into this planet, its been all about survival of the clever in this epoch....
As harsh as it may sound, this world is filled with useless people. Only the clever were meant to survive.
@Alte said in Do you enjoy being a human?:
@Kana I kind of agree with the slave idea, because, they dont have the intelligence to understand that their brain is made to work that way. If it feels hor*y it wont think twice, if it feels scared it'll run (or attack), like a robot, gets an input and acts accordingly.
Some animals are quite intelligent too actually. I'm not sure if robotic would be a good adjective. Animals are believed to have a conscience too. And we don't even know what animals think like. It's just that the basic desires are (very much) stronger and they're more in nature's control.
@Kana said in Do you enjoy being a human?:
Intuition and conscience are part of our being as an animal, like our anatomy is. But since we can manipulate and choose (i am sure, more than other animals), we have an upper hand. I don't think choosing between right and wrong (in a moral sense) is in nature's propaganda.
Then why do we have it?? Everything that transpires around us, the things we percieve, is all about and a part of nature....
It's sole duty is making us survive and propagate genes.
Its only optional duh.....
So you choose to accept only our accomplishments as the "path shown by nature"?
Not just that, every decision we make is one of the paths nature shows us
It's more like nature lets us do what is in our power.
Of course, and there's no check to strike a balance between us and the rest of nature.... Someone must take responsibility for that, right? Since we have it in our power, and its only morally right for us to keep ourselves in check, it becomes (or should become) a duty for us to do.
Like there's infinite paths between the start and end, no fixed "shown" path. Whatever happens the destination is fixed. Like a free run game maybe?
Exactly, I agree with that one. I've written something like this in another post under this topic. Its in a reply to @Mr-H ig....
Nature doesn't give a damn. We just happened to evolve to become this intelligent.
So you're ruling this off as coincidence? I believe everything happens for a reason, and that happens to be a work of nature.....
Not right, it's our predetermined duty, which we can choose to accept or not..(being smart beings and all)
I detect a contradiction in that statement, you're saying its a duty at first (which means it has to be done), and you're saying that we're free to "choose" to accept it or not..... I believe the latter is right.
See? That's what i mean, we can choose. People can decide between being vegan or not being.
Being vegan or not is subjective, I never talked about that. We are omnivores and its an individual's choice.
If we let nature guide us, we would all be omnivores without giving a thought about it.
I think I've explained about this in the previous point. We're already omnivores, as a species. And again, being vegan or not is all about one's preference.
As harsh as it may sound, this world is filled with useless people. Only the clever were meant to survive.
True, but you can't deny anyone of their right to life. And being "useless" is subjective. No one's here to fulfill anyone else's purpose. If someone's "useless" to you or someone else, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't live. This is called genocide.
Peace! :))
Then why do we have it?? (Sense of right and wrong)
Maybe our complex surroundings and our intellect developed it. Not very sure about this one...
It's sole duty is making us survive and propagate genes.
Its only optional duh.....
Nope it's optional for us who think. Animals don't decide for themselves. It's a compulsion for them. And they're made to like it.
I detect a contradiction in that statement, you're saying its a duty at first (which means it has to be done), and you're saying that we're free to "choose" to accept it or not..... I believe the latter is right.
Predetermined duty as in assigned task. Nature didn't ask us to choose! But guess what we can xP
Everything that transpires around us, the things we percieve, is all about and a part of nature....
Not just that, every decision we make is one of the paths nature shows us
So you're ruling this off as coincidence? I believe everything happens for a reason, and that happens to be a work of nature.....
I don't see us reaching an agreement here 😁
Yes, for now i believe we're a coincidence.
There's a recent post about if things happen for a reason. If you want you can see my views about that there o.o
And i maintain that nature doesn't give an f word.
Being vegan or not is subjective, I never talked about that. We are omnivores and its an individual's choice.
being vegan or not is all about one's preference.
If we went according to nature as you say, it wouldn't have been subjective. No bear would give up fish because it thinks it's hurting them or even because it doesn't like their taste.
you can't deny anyone of their right to life. And being "useless" is subjective. No one's here to fulfill anyone else's purpose. If someone's "useless" to you or someone else, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't live. This is called genocide.
I am not denying anyone. And we're not the ones who decide here. It sure is rude to say, but most of us wouldn't qualify as fit to survive according to nature's criteria without the aid of all this modern technology.
@Alte said in Do you enjoy being a human?:
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@Kana We're not bears lol, there's a difference mehh...
Nope it's optional for us who think.
Explain this :joy:
Nature didn't ask us to choose!
She gave us the ability to choose, so yeah
@Kana We're not bears lol, there's a difference mehh...
Exactly. We're not bears (or any other animals)
We're humans hence we can deviate from nature's guidelines.
Explain this :joy:
Simply put, animals don't (aren't evolved enough to) (aren't allowed by nature to) think about whether they want to have kids or not.
She gave us the ability to choose, so yeah
We evolved to be able to choose. Animals (other) don't choose. They're closer to the "roots" than we are xD
@Alte lol, so true... again, its all hormones :')
NOT AT ALL!
@PAFFA Reason?
