Conspiracy theorists unite!

[LastTrain94]

Any conspiracies you want to debate or talk about with others? If so take your shot im always open to hear peoples thoughts on how they read between the lines.

[Willow]

@lasttrain94

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[Marija]

@lasttrain94 okay...

So, for really far-fetched ones that, even if physically possible, are based on little evidence or take real evidence to an insane degree I like anything with aliens being involved in history and gubbamint tryin' to turn the Fricking frogs GAAAY! (Alex Jones reference) because those sorts of things are actually pretty funny because of how dumb they are.

As for beliefs that would commonly be considered conspiracies but that I find actually pretty believable: Slobodan Milosevic was, while not my dream president, not this genocidal dictator he was hyped up to be (even if guilty, not nearly as brutal as NATO). I also pretty much disregard a lot of what the US government says about countries it doesn't like due to how it supports actual dictators like the Saudi monarchy and pretty racist and oppressive countries like Israel.

So there's my favorites (both sarcastically and seriously). Tell me what you think of them.

[TheStrangest]

Honestly Alex Jones just seems like a big distraction to me he always says things in a way that is so ridiculous that even if there is a hint of truth in it he turned it into a joke.

Alex Jones is just a funny meme at this point

And yeah I agree with you on the whole disregarding whatever the US says considering they act in a manner that is completely hypocritical of what they say. Not to informed on Slobodan Milosevic

He was the president of Serbia and Also was probably very guilty for the ethnic cleansings in Bosnia and other things during the Bosnia, Croatia, Kosovo conflicts and if i am right there wasn't enough proof against him so 3 or 2 verdicts were lost while he was held custody in prison and he also died in prison. I don't know that much about this too

but yeah I do agree NATO was an extremely overly destructive force during the Kosovo war, and deserves to be held accountable for their actions but I don't think that gonna happen anytime soon.

Yeh i read about the bombings. NATO is also a pretty destructive force in the middle east right now

[Marija]

@thestrangest Sorry for my late response, I was pretty busy (I had a brief break to up-vote your post).
@thestrangest said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@marija man you are woke for your age and your way of thinking seems to be heading in the right direction. Who have been taking the biggest roles in influencing your way of thinking. Like Noam Chomsky, George Carlin maybe one of the 4 horsemen of neo-atheism which are Sam Harris, Daniel D. Dennet, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens or even maybe just some good scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss...

My influences are varied and include those I don't share the views of anymore. As you listed, there's Noam Chomsky who helped me become more left-wing and question US foreign-policy propoganda. Before, I was against some wars but still believed the very lies used to justify many of them. At the time, I was sorta an anarchist (didn't last very long). Then, I'd have to give creds to Michael Parenti who I agree with on quite a lot of things. As far as the New-atheists you listed, I'm not a huge fan tbh. I'm probably an atheist but, like gay marriage, it's one of those issues that doesn't make me that passionate anymore.There's also several big people from history who, while many of them are im-perfect and made many, many mistakes, did lots of good.
@lasttrain94 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

With NWO conspiracies, there is usually many truths twisted into really batshit directions. Like, lets take NATO for example. I hate it and what it did to countries like Yugoslavia (now Serbia and Montenegro) and Libya. I agree that the reason they did it was not to stop what they claimed the leaders of these countries were doing (which, probably, wasn't even happening at least not on the scale claimed) but, rather, to satisfy their own economic interests which wanted the resources and labor of countries that weren't willing to submit to their will. But then there's people who claim that the US funded the KLA and attacked Yugoslavia because Albanians are majority-Muslim and this is an evil plot to attack Christians or some crap. Same with anti-Jewish conspiracies. Yes, there is an un-equal economic system but it's not because Jews. Also, many times, Illuminati seems to be a label put on real organizations. Why bother? Just call them NATO, EU, etc.
Basically, what I'm saying is a lot of people who talk about things like the NWO take truths and things I agree with but fantasticize them with fictional elements like plots to turn people gay or aliens or Jews and Muslims are trying to do every single little bad thing in the world or other crap like that.

[LastTrain94]

@willoww 😂😂😂😂😂 that video killed me

[Marija]

@lasttrain94 By conspiracy theory, do you mean the un-realistic or overly-far-fetched ones (like aliens built the pyramids, aliens controlled the Nazis, Jews secretly run the world, etc) or views out-side of the main-stream that are often dismissed as conspiratorial or wrong despite being far more believable and probable than the official narrative?

[LastTrain94]

@marija Both are interesting to me, im interested in all theories no matter how far fetched.

[LastTrain94]

@marija said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@lasttrain94 okay...

So, for really far-fetched ones that, even if physically possible, are based on little evidence or take real evidence to an insane degree I like anything with aliens being involved in history and gubbamint tryin' to turn the Fricking frogs GAAAY! (Alex Jones reference) because those sorts of things are actually pretty funny because of how dumb they are.

As for beliefs that would commonly be considered conspiracies but that I find actually pretty believable: Slobodan Milosevic was, while not my dream president, not this genocidal dictator he was hyped up to be (even if guilty, not nearly as brutal as NATO). I also pretty much disregard a lot of what the US government says about countries it doesn't like due to how it supports actual dictators like the Saudi monarchy and pretty racist and oppressive countries like Israel.

So there's my favorites (both sarcastically and seriously). Tell me what you think of them.

Honestly Alex Jones just seems like a big distraction to me he always says things in a way that is so ridiculous that even if there is a hint of truth in it he turned it into a joke. And yeah I agree with you on the whole disregarding whatever the US says considering they act in a manner that is completely hypocritical of what they say. Not to informed on Slobodan Milosevic but yeah I do agree NATO was an extremely overly destructive force during the Kosovo war, and deserves to be held accountable for their actions but I don't think that gonna happen anytime soon.

[TheStrangest]

@thestrangest said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@marija man you are woke for your age and your way of thinking seems to be heading in the right direction. Who have been taking the biggest roles in influencing your way of thinking. Like Noam Chomsky, George Carlin maybe one of the 4 horsemen of neo-atheism which are Sam Harris, Daniel D. Dennet, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens or even maybe just some good scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss...

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[TheStrangest]

@marija that was a question

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 i need to go to sleep.
Here is the song:

His birthday is 09/28/81 if you don't remember

Lyrics:

[Hook]
...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
When in fact they were never yours to begin with
This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

[Verse 1]
Enter prisoner 092881
No particular kid of interest nobody’s great son
So he enters the system’s revolving door on day one
Comes out a menace the armed forces gave a gun
Sent him to war without warning him
The images he’d store from then on would now torture him
Brought his hyper awareness back to the rear
A soldier who still feels active missing half of his gear
Blood money they trade for his education
So he can learn to describe a state with one single equation
His idol Carl Sagan, his outlet hip hop
He wants to be a physicist, he wants to wreck shop
Sittin at the pawn shop watching the clock stuck
Technically a free man, but still feels locked up
As a result of social conditioning
He actually has something to say but no one is listening

[Hook x2]
...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
When in fact they were never yours to begin with
This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

[Verse 2]
He’s institutionalized on two fronts
Deals with his PTSD with crude blunts
The civilian reality is too much
So much he hasn’t left his house in 2 months
His mood jumps from dealing with rude cunts
Attitude fronts and them asking to do brunch
Every morning wakes up from the same dream
His fate seems status quo, the same thing
With chains free to tight walk the fame beam
He sabotages all the success his name brings
...it’s the baggage of the guilt he walks around with
The psychological scarring you can’t heal with counseling
Feeling guilty bout the fact he actually made it
Wants among the greatest
While he shuns his medication
Munches education
While he punches on the pavement
Cuz he hates it
Imprisoned by the past he’s escapin’

[Hook x2]
...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
When in fact they were never yours to begin with
This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

[TheStrangest]

@marija man how old are you?

[TheStrangest]

@marija and where are you from

[Marija]

@thestrangest 15

[Marija]

@thestrangest US (Serbian family)

[TheStrangest]

@marija man you are woke for your age and your way of thinking seems to be heading in the right direction. Who have been taking the biggest roles in influencing your way of thinking. Like Noam Chomsky, George Carlin maybe one of the 4 horsemen of neo-atheism which are Sam Harris, Daniel D. Dennet, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens or even maybe just some good scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss...

[LastTrain94]

@Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

I already talked to a guy who believed in the new world order and illuminati 2 months ago on here so I will just quote what I said from my previous account with some little edits. By the way the guy i was talking to had a character from the anime hellsing ultamite as an avatar so that's why i made a hellsing ultamite abridged alucard guessing that the anonymous ennimies are nazis by saying "MAYBE A LARGE ORGINISED LIKE THE NAZIS" and you won't understand why it is funny unless you want me to explain it to you.

WOW, that went from 0 to a 100 real quick. I thought you were a good free thinker like me until i read more of your comments and realised that you're a fucking lunatic. I agree with what you're saying about the world... but your solutions for reform sound like they're coming from a 12 y.o. kid who watched a little too many conspiracy theory videos on youtube. My solutions for reform go more along the lines of changing the education system to teach philosophy at a younger age so that people doubt authority more and shit like that. You're fucking acting like we're literally in George Orwell's book "1984", in the book just for the sake of the story it's just 1 association that is poisoning people while making them believe that they're free but in reality it's not like there is (unnecessary hellsing reference) a mass organised group like the nazis or what you would call illuminati behind closed doors controlling the news... but it's just the fact that ignorance is what rules the world not intelligence and the idiots that control the news, the government and other things are just ordinary people who were given more power than they deserve and the power was handed to them by other ignorant people which are the majority of humanity and these ignorant people are from everywhere not like what you think which is that they're all from 1 country called illuminati which will kill anybody that realises it's existence. when you think that, then you're ignoring the reality which is that the problem is very out in the open for people to observe and in front of everyones eyes but people are too clouded to see it, by saying that the truth is hidden and until the illuminati is exposed then people will not be able to see the corruption is something that slows down improvement because it's delusional, untrue, just holds us back even more and puts you in the category of the ignorant people making the world worse but your skepticism even though it is illogical it is good aslong as it will lead you to more logical skepticism in the future. You're still partaking in the biggest cause for evil in the world which is religion, so i wouldn't expect too much from you anyways.

[LastTrain94]

@thestrangest your comment makes me wonder what that guy was saying lol. What was his username?