Conspiracy theorists unite!


  • Music Lovers

    Any conspiracies you want to debate or talk about with others? If so take your shot im always open to hear peoples thoughts on how they read between the lines.


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  • Music Lovers

    @thestrangest 8.5-9 somewhere in between


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    @lasttrain94 so from 0 to 10 how would you rate it


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  • Music Lovers

    @thestrangest yeah i read it and i get how it relates to the song.


  • Watch Anime Eyes

    @lasttrain94 He does not talk about atheism in this song. It is just a kind of recap of his life and if you read the wiki you would understand the lyrics more. If you did not read his wiki page you would not have understood 80% of his song. Did you understand the beginning for exam0le


  • Music Lovers

    @thestrangest pretty good song, and his wiki page was pretty interesting but still the atheism part just isn't for me.


  • Watch Anime Eyes

    @marija said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

    @thestrangest Sorry for my late response, I was pretty busy (I had a brief break to up-vote your post).

    Ok

    My influences are varied and include those I don't share the views of anymore.

    Gooood. Signs that you are thinking for yourself. It is hard to disagree with people you like but when someone is thinking for themselves it is almost impossible to find someone you do not disagree with on something.

    As you listed, there's Noam Chomsky who helped me become more left-wing and question US foreign-policy propoganda.

    Great. I love him, he's really smart and up until now for lack of my efforts to discover all of his views but i love what i have seen so far.

    Before, I was against some wars but still believed the very lies used to justify many of them. At the time, I was sorta an anarchist (didn't last very long). Then, I'd have to give creds to Michael Parenti who I agree with on quite a lot of things.

    He is not very known so i had to youtube him and i found videos of him talking about wars and i liked them.

    As far as the New-atheists you listed, I'm not a huge fan tbh.

    I can undersrand where you are coming from since what you could have seen is just their imperfections. There was a debate i once watched a lil bit between Christopher Hitchens and Michael Parenti in which who won is very clear today. The debate can be summed up in 2 quotes

    "No experience like the look on the face of people who are suddenly free" - Christopher Hitchens

    Hitch had good intentions and that the war would result in the liberation of the Iraqi people but he did not have a good grasp of how things would have eventually turned out neither did he have a grasp on the US gouvernements true intentions behind the war. So as he supported the Iraq war ofcourse i have to disagree with him on that.

    "I think in 5 to 10 years you'll have found that Iraq still hasn't recovered" - Michael Parenti

    He was right as fuck and there is no doubt he won the debate but Hitch's books do not touch on the Iraq war as far as i know. He stays in his field of experience in his writing and his writing is damn good, i only read one of his books and mearly started reading some others abd if you forget what he thought about the Iraq war since they are not in his writing you can see clearly how great of a mind he was. On subjects like God, Mother teresa, Henry Kissenger, the idiocy of US presidents, princess Diana.... he was a perfect orator and writer.

    Christopher was pro-Palestine which is great but Sam Harris is Pro-Israeli which to this point is the only thing i disagree with Sam for and thank the non-existent gods that he knows and says that he is uneducated on the topic and therefore rarely talks about it. Sam Harris like Hitch stays in his field of experience. Sam Harris is a fucking genius when it comes to the philosophy of free-will and the self, he is amazing when talking about spirituality as an atheist and his guided meditation audio seminars are unbelievable. His books on God, Free-will, The Self, Spitituality, US ignorance... are amazingly well written.

    Richard Dawkins stays only in his field of expirience abd never even talks about anything else by giving his own opinions on them so as far as i have seen all he says and writes about is pure gold.

    I am simply not very well educated Daniel Dennet but he seems to be more like Dawkins.

    I'm probably an atheist but

    ??? You probably don't believe in god? How does that work

    like gay marriage, it's one of those issues that doesn't make me that passionate anymore.

    Because it is finally legal, Duh.

    There's also several big people from history who, while many of them are im-perfect and made many, many mistakes, did lots of good.

    I understand. Like the child molestor Ghandi and the wife-beater John Lennon lol.

    @lasttrain94 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

    @Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

    With NWO conspiracies, there is usually many truths twisted into really batshit directions. Like, lets take NATO for example. I hate it and what it did to countries like Yugoslavia (now Serbia and Montenegro) and Libya. I agree that the reason they did it was not to stop what they claimed the leaders of these countries were doing (which, probably, wasn't even happening at least not on the scale claimed) but, rather, to satisfy their own economic interests which wanted the resources and labor of countries that weren't willing to submit to their will. But then there's people who claim that the US funded the KLA and attacked Yugoslavia because Albanians are majority-Muslim and this is an evil plot to attack Christians or some crap. Same with anti-Jewish conspiracies. Yes, there is an un-equal economic system but it's not because Jews. Also, many times, Illuminati seems to be a label put on real organizations. Why bother? Just call them NATO, EU, etc.
    Basically, what I'm saying is a lot of people who talk about things like the NWO take truths and things I agree with but fantasticize them with fictional elements like plots to turn people gay or aliens or Jews and Muslims are trying to do every single little bad thing in the world or other crap like that.

    I agree with you here. I think you would enjoy an example of this in action. George here talkd pure truth and what he says is very similar to what conspiracy theorists say but they just as you say twist them into a lot of batshit directions.

    Here are 2 other vids but they do not have so much to do with conspiracies, they are just for incase you liked the first vid and wanted to watch more if George:



  • @thestrangest Sorry for my late response, I was pretty busy (I had a brief break to up-vote your post).
    @thestrangest said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

    @marija man you are woke for your age and your way of thinking seems to be heading in the right direction. Who have been taking the biggest roles in influencing your way of thinking. Like Noam Chomsky, George Carlin maybe one of the 4 horsemen of neo-atheism which are Sam Harris, Daniel D. Dennet, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens or even maybe just some good scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss...

    My influences are varied and include those I don't share the views of anymore. As you listed, there's Noam Chomsky who helped me become more left-wing and question US foreign-policy propoganda. Before, I was against some wars but still believed the very lies used to justify many of them. At the time, I was sorta an anarchist (didn't last very long). Then, I'd have to give creds to Michael Parenti who I agree with on quite a lot of things. As far as the New-atheists you listed, I'm not a huge fan tbh. I'm probably an atheist but, like gay marriage, it's one of those issues that doesn't make me that passionate anymore.There's also several big people from history who, while many of them are im-perfect and made many, many mistakes, did lots of good.
    @lasttrain94 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

    @Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

    With NWO conspiracies, there is usually many truths twisted into really batshit directions. Like, lets take NATO for example. I hate it and what it did to countries like Yugoslavia (now Serbia and Montenegro) and Libya. I agree that the reason they did it was not to stop what they claimed the leaders of these countries were doing (which, probably, wasn't even happening at least not on the scale claimed) but, rather, to satisfy their own economic interests which wanted the resources and labor of countries that weren't willing to submit to their will. But then there's people who claim that the US funded the KLA and attacked Yugoslavia because Albanians are majority-Muslim and this is an evil plot to attack Christians or some crap. Same with anti-Jewish conspiracies. Yes, there is an un-equal economic system but it's not because Jews. Also, many times, Illuminati seems to be a label put on real organizations. Why bother? Just call them NATO, EU, etc.
    Basically, what I'm saying is a lot of people who talk about things like the NWO take truths and things I agree with but fantasticize them with fictional elements like plots to turn people gay or aliens or Jews and Muslims are trying to do every single little bad thing in the world or other crap like that.


  • Watch Anime Eyes

    @lasttrain94 i need to go to sleep.
    Here is the song:

    His birthday is 09/28/81 if you don't remember

    Lyrics:

    [Hook]
    ...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
    You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
    When in fact they were never yours to begin with
    This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

    [Verse 1]
    Enter prisoner 092881
    No particular kid of interest nobody’s great son
    So he enters the system’s revolving door on day one
    Comes out a menace the armed forces gave a gun
    Sent him to war without warning him
    The images he’d store from then on would now torture him
    Brought his hyper awareness back to the rear
    A soldier who still feels active missing half of his gear
    Blood money they trade for his education
    So he can learn to describe a state with one single equation
    His idol Carl Sagan, his outlet hip hop
    He wants to be a physicist, he wants to wreck shop
    Sittin at the pawn shop watching the clock stuck
    Technically a free man, but still feels locked up
    As a result of social conditioning
    He actually has something to say but no one is listening

    [Hook x2]
    ...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
    You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
    When in fact they were never yours to begin with
    This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

    [Verse 2]
    He’s institutionalized on two fronts
    Deals with his PTSD with crude blunts
    The civilian reality is too much
    So much he hasn’t left his house in 2 months
    His mood jumps from dealing with rude cunts
    Attitude fronts and them asking to do brunch
    Every morning wakes up from the same dream
    His fate seems status quo, the same thing
    With chains free to tight walk the fame beam
    He sabotages all the success his name brings
    ...it’s the baggage of the guilt he walks around with
    The psychological scarring you can’t heal with counseling
    Feeling guilty bout the fact he actually made it
    Wants among the greatest
    While he shuns his medication
    Munches education
    While he punches on the pavement
    Cuz he hates it
    Imprisoned by the past he’s escapin’

    [Hook x2]
    ...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
    You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
    When in fact they were never yours to begin with
    This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence


  • Watch Anime Eyes

    @lasttrain94 tell me when you are done


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  • Music Lovers

    @thestrangest whos the artist?


  • Watch Anime Eyes

    @lasttrain94 i wanna send you it but i think you will appreciate the lyrics a oot more if you spend 5 min reading the artists wikipedia bio


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    @korglife17 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

    @friends Spooky...

    Wtf is so spooky about it. It os just a group of people who like to fucking act stupid around each other. The freemasons are like a more underground version of sciontology, both are just stupid as fuck and both are negative but not big enough to be feard


  • Music Lovers

    @thestrangest said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

    @lasttrain94 by the i found a really good song from a guy i already talked to you about. Wanna hear it?

    Yeah sure, lets hear it


  • Watch Anime Eyes

    @korglife17 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

    The Secret Societies (Illuminati

    The illuminati does not exist as commonly described

    Freemason

    Yeah freemasons exist but they are not a secret society since people know they exist and can try to join them. But also the effects of freemasons in the world are super small and over exaggerated by conspiracy theorists.

    Satanic/etc.) are real.

    Satanism is real and also not a secret society since everyone knows it exists and there is literally a website for it called the ifficial church of satan. Satanism and the church of satan is not bad but actually a good influence on America and the world. Conspiracy theorists misrepresent the scale of how much the church of satan influences the world and it misrepresents their goals and generally in conspiracy theory culture the illuminati abd satanists are indistinguishable so since the illuminati does not exist then your concept of satanists do not exist.



  • @friends Spooky...



  • @korglife17 well, illuminati, idk, satanic, idk. But freemasons, i do know. When I was in massachusetts, we came upon this unmarked building with a strange compass like thing on it with 2 rulers, my friend who was with me in the car stiffened and said to give him a minute. He did some strange knocking ritual and a peephole opened where a pair of eyes appeared, they exchanged a few words and he left, visibly shaken and he told me to step on it. I later found out he was a freemason and he just was talking to a freemason congregationalist.


 

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