@janet thinks that its a good idea to be a sheep and follow the laws blindly

[ssll sg]

well,me and my good friend @Janet here had a debate about how a man who refuses to have a baby should just suck it up and pay an enormous amount of money,effort,time to bring up the child because the law said so.

then,i argued that laws arent infallible and arent always in line to our morality.i also argued that law SHOULD be subjected to scrutiny and to be criticized instead of being followed blindly like a sheep.

you refuses to continue under the excuse that the discussion is off topic to the thread.

so,ive made a new thread so that we can have discussion about this without any limit/constraint.

what do you think,@Janet?
do you wanna have a go at it?

[Janet]

@ssll-sg
FINE

1. I never said to follow laws blindly nor be a sheep. I said your opinion was irrelevant to me because it is a law that men take care of their children.

2. I didn't argue about your examples because, tbh, I don't give a shit about you or your arguments.

3. I'M NOT A FUCKING BOY

[Morf]

@ssll-sg said in @janet thinks that its a good idea to be a sheep and follow the laws blindly:

@Morf said in @janet thinks that its a good idea to be a sheep and follow the laws blindly:

Resorting to "attempting insults" with an overly-emotional fueled response usually only comes across in a debate as irrational or will be seen as illogical fallacy

1st,there is no such thing as illogical fallacy.fallacy by itself meant invalid/faulty reasoning. therefore,the word illogical is redundant.its just a friendly reminder.

Thank you kindly for this reminder. I appreciate your helpful efforts to further my improvement in executing combinations of these specific nouns and adjectives consecutively within a sentence so no more time and space has to be wasted on such trivial matters within response formats such as this. :)

2nd.i am not the one who started the altercation.

My initial response was not to shift blame toward either party regarding the subject matter in question (to which I am not part of the debate itself); but rather to offer constructive and friendly advice in a welcoming manner amid what seems to be a continual unnecessary escalation of drama to which tempers and stress are likely running high. This of course being only an observation regarding posts of instigating nature from yourself that spontaneously appeared in an unrelated topic, to which I will address further below within this response. My aim was simply to be helpful to you, as I am thankful you reciprocated in kind with the friendly reminder you stated above.

i dont remember being confrontational in any way whatsoever.

I understand, but you must be able to see how it could appear as such intent from yourself when rather consistent insults such as "name-calling" began without provocation in an unrelated topic.

but,as you can see,this semi literate buffoon,@The-Mods,

⬆ An example of the "name-calling" I mentioned above. In regards to, as you stated: ⬇

i dont remember being confrontational in any way whatsoever.

went on engaging in ad hominem attacks towards yours truly on the very next reply,unprovoked.

Just as insults of name-calling would also be seen as confrontational attacks resulting in provocation toward any individual user you tag.

my FIRST PRINCIPLE is to treat others how they treated me.i responded in kind,

I, personally, would rather advocate the principle of level-headedness, maturity, and "taking the high road" to disregard whatever may be deemed unnecessary (or without function) to the actual matter of debate and not worth an escalating response rather than meeting negativity with likewise negativity. Two wrongs do not make a right. However, continual "jabs" of insults or hatefulness will only prove to be a hindrance for resolve and understanding of valid points to be addressed on the subject matter itself. Thus straying from the core matter at hand and only prolonging fruitless attacks for the sake of drama, toxicity, or needless "revenge".

and the whole gang got the wind of this and they decided to gang up on me. that is how the legendary internet feud between the lone freedom fighter(me) against a group of goons led by @Janet began.

so,if you truly are advocating for civil dialogue or being able to control one's emotion while engaging in a debate,why dont you send the same comment towards these people as well?

all these people are guilty for being overly emotional and engaging in uncivilized dialogue as well as severely lacking in decorum,right?

now,show me that youre not bias,and lecture them about your version of 'morality' like you did to me.

To address all the above sections of quotes: No one else is responsible for your own decision to respond in what manner you will. To blame others for ones own conduct, in my opinion, is seen as an excuse to exhibit lack of maturity and not taking responsibility for playing a role of instigating retorts or continual escalation resulting in whatever may come back at you: tarnished reputation, or no longer being taken seriously.

you can do that,right?

I am not part of this debate. I responded solely to you on the grounds that you began posting in an unrelated topic seemingly with the intent to needlessly instigate further drama, attacks, and provocation to which you spoke of. Nonetheless, to whatever your goal was, that thread began to be filled with the same hateful "back and forth" from this thread. I would certainly hope your intent was not to hijack another user's topics thread out of spite or pettiness. To answer your question, all the users you mentioned will see this. I can assure you, this is guaranteed.

Through my experiences on this site, I have seen this very thing happen in the past to which one user seems to gain a lot of attention (which is usually their intent) through toxicity and drama to which groups of regular known users of this community will almost always respond by taking action, sometimes through unity, in efforts to try to put an end to drama. Or at least through downvotes and reports, bringing altercations, such as this, to the attention of staff members and representatives of this site.

Taking a look at yourself, no matter what anyone else says or conducts themselves (they are responsible for their own actions); is it really worth all this? I believe you are passionate to your view of the subject matter that should be debated. There are just better ways to go about educating or informing people of what you may know through your own education or experience. Staying cool and calm will very much be efficient to get a point across or to spread the information you wish. For those who choose not to listen, why bother? It's definitely not worth the stress. This is the internet, this is only a chat site. Nothing to get worked up over. :) I humbly ask that you please enjoy yourself more and not worry so much over anyone else. It's a far more desirable experience without the unnecessary stress. 👍 Hope this helped in some way!

Take care! :wave:

[DaNii]

Don't go around impregnating women then, use condoms.:)

[Eucalyptus]

@sup I love me to the moon and back :smirk:

[Janet]

@ssll-sg said in @janet thinks that its a good idea to be a sheep and follow the laws blindly:

@Janet

welcome!!!!!!!!!!!
im glad youre here.
have a seat.make yourself comfortable.

'I never said to follow laws blindly nor be a sheep. I said your opinion was irrelevant to me because it is a law that men take care of their children.'

i mean,you need to realize the incongruity here,right?

1)ive never said that you need to follow the law blindly

and at the same time,you said

2)the law said that men need to take care of their baby,so,just follow it.

when you said this,doesnt that mean that you wanted to follow the law regardless whether the law is perceived by others to be draconian and immoral?

Can you make up more stuff please. I need more of a laugh.

I never said this. This is a generalization. I said to follow the law that if you make a child you pay for it (or give up for adoption ofc)

[sup]

[Silly_Na]

@ssll-sg I'm not religious but there has to be some higher power to help you.... I just have no words. A wise man once told me, never argue with stupid people. They just don't get it, and you'll never make them see eye-to-eye. So consider this my last reply and I hope you take my advice. Get some help. You really need it.

[Janet]

@Piggy_Na said in @janet thinks that its a good idea to be a sheep and follow the laws blindly:

@ssll-sg I'm not religious but there has to be some higher power to help you.... I just have no words. A wise man once told me, never argue with stupid people. They just don't get it, and you'll never make them see eye-to-eye. So consider this my last reply and I hope you take my advice. Get some help. You really need it.

Well said. This is the exact reason I stopped responding as all he does is make things up.

Can't argue with stupid... love it

[Morf]

@ssll-sg Resorting to "attempting insults" with an overly-emotional fueled response usually only comes across in a debate as irrational or will be seen as illogical fallacy; therefore ultimately negating any debate which will then have become an "altercation".

I understand you have a point to get across and that is very much your right. Establishing a manner of civil dialogue without measures in extremities such as clear escalation of emotions or direct targeting with ill intent would aid much more efficiently to your refutations within said debate.

This was only meant to be friendly advice. Hope this could help you out! Take care! :wave: :)

[Lake Bodom]

@ssll-sg You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided and determined to use even go need to do look more as anyone can be ! Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? ugh... My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense which i personally use as far as it's not even the way you might even get as this long upon you wished to shot the ducks because you're afraid of toasters smh bro

[Eucalyptus]

@sup you love you to the moon and back :grin:

[Eucalyptus]

@sup 6 fake accounts, I'm one of Janet's goons :smirk: @Janet

[Silly_Na]

@ssll-sg I feel bad for the people that have to deal with you every day. You clearly weren't blessed with a brain like the rest of us. Hopefully, for your sake, you'll grow a brain :)

[Janet]

@Cuckold_Hubby As you can see in previous posts. This idiot only reads what he wants and then twists your words and puts false statements in your mouth. Like the title of this post, I never said that nor do I think that.

[Lake Bodom]

wear ever you go their your 🙏💪😣

[Janet]

@ssll-sg said in @janet thinks that its a good idea to be a sheep and follow the laws blindly:

LAWS ARE LAWS,SO,YOUR OPINION IS IRRELEVANT!

Child protection laws not LAWS IN GENERAL. Stop trying to put words into my mouth.

Sorry if your brain is so fucking huge that you cant stay on one simple topic and you have to think of every law that's out there.

[sup]

whos on team upset ?
upvote this post

[sup]

@ssll-sg said in @janet thinks that its a good idea to be a sheep and follow the laws blindly:

@YourMomToo

you can keep asking the same question over and over again,boy.
my answer wouldnt change.

LOL!

booooyiiii is so cringy

[sup]

Okay Im outta here I know how to mute topics @janet taught me
Goodbye booooyiessyeis