Pursuit of Happiness

[MadMax_Sensei]

So a philosophical question , who are truly happy those who pursue happiness or those who dont ?

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@MadMax_Sensei said in Pursuit of Happiness:

So a philosophical question , who are truly happy those who pursue happiness or those who dont ?

I don't know anyone that doesn't pursue happiness in some way. So really idk how to answer it. People that pursue happiness are not always happy right? Those that do not pursue it can still be happy regardless. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Now my brain hurts trying to answer. lol

[MadMax_Sensei]

@Sassy said in Pursuit of Happiness:

@MadMax_Sensei said in Pursuit of Happiness:

So a philosophical question , who are truly happy those who pursue happiness or those who dont ?

I don't know anyone that doesn't pursue happiness in some way. So really idk how to answer it. People that pursue happiness are not always happy right? Those that do not pursue it can still be happy regardless. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Now my brain hurts trying to answer. lol

I would also answer the same like mine would be neither as happiness is more of byproduct of what you did . So those who do are not guaranteed to get and same goes for who doesn't may or may not . But yes agreeing with all of us in some way or other are pursuing happiness . Thanks for your ans

[Charlish]

@MadMax_Sensei happiness comes naturally when u r away from all the illusions in this world

[sup]

Family, Friends, Love, and a little bit of money! Let's not deny the fact that money is important for a comfortable life
Those who don't agree have no idea how ruthless poverty is.

[Hermit007]

Would you say saints were madman? With no money .

It was ruthless for them ?

Hi ,I just joined .
I am glad to find this thread .

[Neurotic]

Like Sassy and Madmax stated above, I like to think happiness is a byproduct of pursuing meaningful things- if we feel we're growing and evolving, our biology rewards us for it. Pursuing 'happiness' in itself isn't enough, we need to pursue what makes us feel productive and full

[Achal99]

@MadMax_Sensei I would appreciate if you look at the following link, might give an insight maybe!
https://chatrooms.talkwithstranger.com/topic/64962/pursuit-of-happiness-let-s-discuss-shall-we

[MadMax_Sensei]

@sup said in Pursuit of Happiness:

Family, Friends, Love, and a little bit of money! Let's not deny the fact that money is important for a comfortable life
Those who don't agree have no idea how ruthless poverty is.

I appreciate your answer but what I want to know is who are happy those who pursue happiness or those who don't?

[MadMax_Sensei]

@Achal99 said in Pursuit of Happiness:

@MadMax_Sensei I would appreciate if you look at the following link, might give an insight maybe!
https://chatrooms.talkwithstranger.com/topic/64962/pursuit-of-happiness-let-s-discuss-shall-we

I tried to sum up my thoughts on your ques , feel free to check that .

[sup]

@Hermit007 said in Pursuit of Happiness:

Would you say saints were madman? With no money .

It was ruthless for them ?

Hi ,I just joined .
I am glad to find this thread .

How many saints/monks are there in this world and how many people choose to live like them? Pretty negligible right?

How many people are living on less than $2 a day? About 10 percent of the entire population. Those are big numbers.

People who choose to live such a life are not madmen. They think & live differently therefore poverty doesn't affect them as it would affect someone who doesn't have enough money to make ends meet on a daily basis. Society is ruthless to them. They just don't have an option.

[Achal99]

@MadMax_Sensei we all are naturally seeking for happiness, today we have something, tomorrow we'll be looking for something else. Our base drive is to attain pleasure or happiness. we all can't be happy unless we pursue it but it depends where you pursue it. In today's world we all are seeking for it in things or outside world.. if we look at saints and their experiences, they say to seek happiness within ourselves. So, instead of looking for it outside try to look within yourself because if within there is no peace or satisfaction or happiness, you will always be agitated by what happens on the outside and this world is full of uncertainties and objects of pleasure are temporary, they can give you pleasure only for a while and not for too long.. that's why people are always on the look out for something new and exciting but again those things too don't last long. A beautiful analogy is given in this regard- there is deer who's glands secret a fragrant musk and that deer spends his whole life searching for it but he's unable to find it 'cause it's right there inside him. so, like that deer we all are looking for happiness here and there but it's within ourselves. pursue it within!
without pursuit you can't be happy 'cause knowingly or unknowingly we all are in pursuit of it. that's in our nature, you can't stop looking for it.

[thiccms]

@MadMax_Sensei

Happiness is just an emotion not a way of being. Happiness is something you have to work for most of the time. so people who are happy often have pursued happiness but that was most likely not their goal. Living a healthy fulfilling life is sort of the pursuit of happiness since it usually leads to a lot of happiness. Therefore only those who pursue it regardless if that was there original intention (for example just taking care of themselves) will be happy.

[MadMax_Sensei]

@thiccms said in Pursuit of Happiness:

@MadMax_Sensei

Happiness is just an emotion not a way of being. Happiness is something you have to work for most of the time. so people who are happy often have pursued happiness but that was most likely not their goal. Living a healthy fulfilling life is sort of the pursuit of happiness since it usually leads to a lot of happiness. Therefore only those who pursue it regardless if that was there original intention (for example just taking care of themselves) will be happy.

Yes i agree on the point that it's more of byproduct of what you originally do or intrest in like reading a book was your intention and happiness you get it from it is it's byproduct , but I disagree on the point though on the point that you pointed out only those who pursue it will gain happiness , if I were to take example of surprise you are not pursuing it or know about it but yes if it was a good surprise you will be happy but on the other hand it could be bad surprise . So what I meant to say is the answer is neither those who pursue or those who don't are not guaranteed happiness , it's just a emotion we get at the heat of the moment .
Btw thanks for your opinion loved reading it.

[thiccms]

@MadMax_Sensei

yes there is no guaranteed happiness i agree but those who do “pursue” it have a much better chance

[MadMax_Sensei]

@Achal99 said in Pursuit of Happiness:

@MadMax_Sensei we all are naturally seeking for happiness, today we have something, tomorrow we'll be looking for something else. Our base drive is to attain pleasure or happiness. we all can't be happy unless we pursue it but it depends where you pursue it. In today's world we all are seeking for it in things or outside world.. if we look at saints and their experiences, they say to seek happiness within ourselves. So, instead of looking for it outside try to look within yourself because if within there is no peace or satisfaction or happiness, you will always be agitated by what happens on the outside and this world is full of uncertainties and objects of pleasure are temporary, they can give you pleasure only for a while and not for too long.. that's why people are always on the look out for something new and exciting but again those things too don't last long. A beautiful analogy is given in this regard- there is deer who's glands secret a fragrant musk and that deer spends his whole life searching for it but he's unable to find it 'cause it's right there inside him. so, like that deer we all are looking for happiness here and there but it's within ourselves. pursue it within!
without pursuit you can't be happy 'cause knowingly or unknowingly we all are in pursuit of it. that's in our nature, you can't stop looking for it.

So first i want to commend you for such a thought , I read twice and thrice times to fully understand is . Ok so yes i agree what is happening in today's world is that we are hungery for happiness , i just want to add that it's because we never identify or understand whats truly happiness is for us . The best example i can give is of mother and a child , like childs wellbeing will be mother's happiness . As she has defined what her happiness is that's were we are lacking like I were to define my happiness is then I could be comparatively much happy , though I will be sad if i won't achieve it but still but i have clear vision , if the people could get a clear vision or understand abt their happiness , they will not fall into despair . So that's my take on your view

[dece]

@MadMax_Sensei Happiness is momentary, it never lasts either way :pepeblush:

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@thiccms said in Pursuit of Happiness:

@MadMax_Sensei

Happiness is just an emotion not a way of being. Happiness is something you have to work for most of the time. so people who are happy often have pursued happiness but that was most likely not their goal. Living a healthy fulfilling life is sort of the pursuit of happiness since it usually leads to a lot of happiness. Therefore only those who pursue it regardless if that was there original intention (for example just taking care of themselves) will be happy.