so if i watch somone drown and dosent help the person that is drowning, did i commit murder?

[alkal33]

i always kind of wonderd that qustion for myself

[wojta]

no, but not helping someone by at least calling emergency is a crime in many countries

[alkal33]

okay thank you

[Vanessa Snow]

@wojta crime by negligence.

[alkal33]

@Vanessa-Snow said in so if i watch somone drown and dosent help the person that is drowning, did i commit murder?:

crime by negligence.

well yess but that still needs some kind of action
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-criminal-negligence.html

[[[global:former-user]]]

Depends if you are even able to help them in the first place.
If they are, say, in icy water inside a frozen lake then you should not help them if you could also fall into the water (and drown with them together).

[taropudding]

You did not commit a murder. But what you're doing is the same as watching someone getting bullied without doing anything. You will always have choices. It's either helping them by calling help or ignoring them, letting any other good outcomes go

[Chicken meat]

But..did you see it tho?

[alkal33]

@taropudding
yes

[Chicken meat]

@alkal33 but...did u see it tho

[alkal33]

@Chicken-meat ohh i get it ha ha

[[[global:former-user]]]

Depends if the person wanted to be saved or not

[[[global:former-user]]]

@Rayse
Bummer.
Now every firefighter and paramedic needs to overthink their actions twice before saving somebody.
What if they accidentally save a suicidal person? What will they say to the judge in their defence?
Oh the horror!

[alkal33]

@Rayse why? i mean it's still muder to give someone active suicide help it might be bad or good in the mind of the bedholder

[alkal33]

@Karina-Kara isn't that the plot of the incredbels

[[[global:former-user]]]

@alkal33 i don't see how it would be murder, if that person seeks death then it would be an act of mercy. Murder would be relieving someone of life without their consent.

[wojta]

@Rayse no, murder is the conscious act of unlawful killing of another human being. It doesn't matter if the person begged you to kill them, unless a law gives you the right or obligation, it still is murder. But you are right that this wouldn't really be murder, because you didn't kill that person.

[wojta]

@Vanessa-Snow yes, but that's still a crime

[[[global:former-user]]]

@wojta the laws of men should have no business in the individual's decision to quit this futile game

[[[global:former-user]]]

@Rayse
True that. I never understood why the government wants to stop you if you want to leave once and for all.
Guess they don't want to loose their property? And you cannot really tax a dead person now, can you?