Software Mayhem


  • Gamers

    Well , basically I want to know your favourite software , go onto your desktop and list everything you have there because why the frick not am i rite?

    mine is : GIMP
    Steam
    Geany
    LibreOffice
    Blender
    Thunderbird
    Handbrake
    ICQ [yes]
    mIRC
    SugarSync
    Inkscape

    well there's more , but i can't be bothered to list all of it these are my overall favourites


  • Gamers

    @Alte prove it



  • @JessicaGrant Windows


  • Gamers

    @JessicaGrant said in Software Mayhem:

    Windows, is even worse than Linux

    yeah I can tell he's a pro


  • Gamers

    @pe7erpark3r said in Software Mayhem:

    texteditor: sublime 3

    cool cool , but honestly Atom is better



  • @JessicaGrant
    Me:
    SPSS
    AMOS
    LISRELL
    ACCURATE
    MS. OFFICE
    ADOBE PHOTOSHOP
    COREL DRAW
    PES 2018 (da hell?)
    ROYAL ENVOY
    ZUMA
    SIMS 4 (da hell)
    ADOBE INDESIGN
    MOVIE MAKERR (sista apps)
    BEAUTY FILTER (sista apps)
    PICASSA (sista apps)

    Many more but it is sista apps 😂


  • Global Veteran Hella Assassins

    • GIMP
    • Inkscape
    • Blender
    • LibreOffice
    • Thunderbird
    • Firefox
    • Chromium
    • Vim
    • IntelliJ IDEA
    • VirtualBOX

  • Global Veteran Hella Assassins

    @JessicaGrant said in Software Mayhem:

    prove it

    Let the holy war begin!



  • @JessicaGrant

    shell: fish
    browser: firefox
    browser for development: chrome
    texteditor: sublime 3
    terminal: iterm2 (mac only)
    keyboard customization: karabiner (mac only)
    gesture customization: BetterTouchTool (mac only)
    vector graphics: Affinity Designer
    video player: vlc
    music player: also vlc / playlists
    mail: mail (mac standard software)
    office: libreOffice
    audio editor: ocen audio
    ebooks: calibre (with decryption plugin)
    git gui: sourcetree (but I use the command line too)
    c# development: visual studio community
    desktop sharing: teamviewer
    android file transfer: handshaker



  • @JessicaGrant It's not exactly a browser engine, but it uses V8, webkit's javascript engine, as does node.js itself. basically it is a text editor written in javascript running in v8.


  • Gamers

    @Alte not a software though biatch



  • @JessicaGrant I know, but still better than Linux



  • @JessicaGrant In this regularly but rarely updated article, which is without doubt the most comprehensive list of Linux distributions' problems on the entire Internet, we only discuss their main problems and shortcomings (which may be the reason why some people say Linux distros are not ready for the desktop) while everyone should keep in mind that there are areas where Linux has excelled other OSes: excellent package management within one distro, multiple platforms and architectures support out of the box, usually excellent stability, no widely circulating viruses or malware, complete system reinstallation is almost never required, besides, Linux is extremely customizable, easily scripted and it's free as in beer.

    Again, let me reiterate it, this article is primarily about Linux distributions, however many issues listed below affect the Linux kernel (the core of Linux distros and Android) as well.

    This is not a Windows vs. Linux comparison, however sometimes you'll find comparisons with Windows or Mac OS as a point of reference (after all, their market penetration is in an order of magnitude higher). Most issues listed below are technical by nature, however some of them are "political" (it's not my word - it's what other people say) - for instance when companies refuse to release data sheets or they release incomplete data sheets for hardware, thus Linux users don't get all the features or respective drivers have bugs almost no one in the Linux community can resolve.

    I want to make one thing crystal clear - Windows, in some regards, is even worse than Linux and it has its own share of critical problems. Off the top of my head I want to name the following quite devastating issues with Windows: • devastating Windows rot, • no enforced file system and registry hierarchy (I have yet to find a single serious application which can uninstall itself cleanly and fully), • svchost.exe, • no true safe mode, • no clean state, • the user as a system administrator (thus viruses/​malware - most users don't and won't understand UAC warnings), • no good packaging mechanism (MSI is a fragile abomination), • no system-wide update mechanism (which includes third party software), • Windows is extremely difficult to debug, • Windows boot problems are often fatal and unsolvable unless you reinstall from scratch, • Windows is hardware dependent (especially when running from UEFI), • Windows updates are terribly unreliable and they also waste disk space, • there's no way to cleanly upgrade your system (there will be thousands of leftovers), etc.

    Probably you've heard many times that Android thus Linux is conquering the entire world since it's running on the majority of smart phones (which are indeed little specialized computers but not desktops). However there are two important things to keep in mind - firstly, Android is not Linux (besides, have you seen anyone running Android on their desktop or laptop?). Android contains the only Linux component - the kernel (moreover, it's a fixed old version (3.0.x, 3.4.x or 3.10.x as for 2016) which is maintained and supported solely by Google). Secondly, Android is not a desktop OS, it's an OS for mobile phones, tablets and other touch screen devices. So, this article is not about Android, it's about a horde of Linux distributions and Open Source Software included by these distributions (called "distro" below).

    Miguel de Icaza, the creator of Gnome and Mono, opined about Linux problems in a similar way, here's his opinion where he reiterates a lot of things mentioned below. He stopped using Linux in 2012, saying about his Mac the following, "Computing-wise that three week vacation turned out to be very relaxing. Machine would suspend and resume without problem, Wi-Fi just worked, audio did not stop working, I spend three weeks without having to recompile the kernel to adjust this or that, nor fighting the video drivers, or deal with the bizarre and random speed degradation that my ThinkPad suffered", highlighting problematic areas in Linux. Recently Linus Torvalds expressed his utter disappointment with the state of Linux on the desktop.

    Ubuntu developers decided to push Ubuntu as a viable gaming platform and they identified the topics which need to be addressed in order to achieve this goal. Uncannily the list, they've come up with, matches the list, you can read below, almost verbatim. In 2017 Ubuntu (as most other Linux distors) still struggled with GPUs, HiDPI, Network Manager and two dozens of other problematic areas. Fedora chimed in as well.


  • Gamers

    @Alte said in Software Mayhem:

    @JessicaGrant In this regularly but rarely updated article, which is without doubt the most comprehensive list of Linux distributions' problems on the entire Internet, we only discuss their main problems and shortcomings (which may be the reason why some people say Linux distros are not ready for the desktop) while everyone should keep in mind that there are areas where Linux has excelled other OSes: excellent package management within one distro, multiple platforms and architectures support out of the box, usually excellent stability, no widely circulating viruses or malware, complete system reinstallation is almost never required, besides, Linux is extremely customizable, easily scripted and it's free as in beer.

    Again, let me reiterate it, this article is primarily about Linux distributions, however many issues listed below affect the Linux kernel (the core of Linux distros and Android) as well.

    This is not a Windows vs. Linux comparison, however sometimes you'll find comparisons with Windows or Mac OS as a point of reference (after all, their market penetration is in an order of magnitude higher). Most issues listed below are technical by nature, however some of them are "political" (it's not my word - it's what other people say) - for instance when companies refuse to release data sheets or they release incomplete data sheets for hardware, thus Linux users don't get all the features or respective drivers have bugs almost no one in the Linux community can resolve.

    I want to make one thing crystal clear - Windows, in some regards, is even worse than Linux and it has its own share of critical problems. Off the top of my head I want to name the following quite devastating issues with Windows: • devastating Windows rot, • no enforced file system and registry hierarchy (I have yet to find a single serious application which can uninstall itself cleanly and fully), • svchost.exe, • no true safe mode, • no clean state, • the user as a system administrator (thus viruses/​malware - most users don't and won't understand UAC warnings), • no good packaging mechanism (MSI is a fragile abomination), • no system-wide update mechanism (which includes third party software), • Windows is extremely difficult to debug, • Windows boot problems are often fatal and unsolvable unless you reinstall from scratch, • Windows is hardware dependent (especially when running from UEFI), • Windows updates are terribly unreliable and they also waste disk space, • there's no way to cleanly upgrade your system (there will be thousands of leftovers), etc.

    Probably you've heard many times that Android thus Linux is conquering the entire world since it's running on the majority of smart phones (which are indeed little specialized computers but not desktops). However there are two important things to keep in mind - firstly, Android is not Linux (besides, have you seen anyone running Android on their desktop or laptop?). Android contains the only Linux component - the kernel (moreover, it's a fixed old version (3.0.x, 3.4.x or 3.10.x as for 2016) which is maintained and supported solely by Google). Secondly, Android is not a desktop OS, it's an OS for mobile phones, tablets and other touch screen devices. So, this article is not about Android, it's about a horde of Linux distributions and Open Source Software included by these distributions (called "distro" below).

    Miguel de Icaza, the creator of Gnome and Mono, opined about Linux problems in a similar way, here's his opinion where he reiterates a lot of things mentioned below. He stopped using Linux in 2012, saying about his Mac the following, "Computing-wise that three week vacation turned out to be very relaxing. Machine would suspend and resume without problem, Wi-Fi just worked, audio did not stop working, I spend three weeks without having to recompile the kernel to adjust this or that, nor fighting the video drivers, or deal with the bizarre and random speed degradation that my ThinkPad suffered", highlighting problematic areas in Linux. Recently Linus Torvalds expressed his utter disappointment with the state of Linux on the desktop.

    Ubuntu developers decided to push Ubuntu as a viable gaming platform and they identified the topics which need to be addressed in order to achieve this goal. Uncannily the list, they've come up with, matches the list, you can read below, almost verbatim. In 2017 Ubuntu (as most other Linux distors) still struggled with GPUs, HiDPI, Network Manager and two dozens of other problematic areas. Fedora chimed in as well.

    good job googling windows is better than linux or why linux sucks and copy pasting it without reading it and summing it up lmfao , either make it your opinion or just say that linux > windows



  • @JessicaGrant Shi*.. shouldve read after all xD xD xD


  • Gamers

    @spaceboy is not based on browser engine , is based on Git (not an engine tho)


  • Global Veteran Hella Assassins

    @JessicaGrant
    Electron based on Chromium. Just open Atom, choose in menu View -> Developer -> Toggle Developer Tools. And you see the familiar dev tools screens which exists in any chromium based browsers. And here you can modify and experiment with atom's html layouts, it sources, styles, etc. Everything the same you can do with a web-app's clients in chrome (and others).
    All of these can be done in any Electron app. And also Mozilla created Electron's clone - Positron, which is based on Gecko engine.

    @pe7erpark3r Electron also uses html and css.

    Our discussion begins to mix in terms. Yes, Electron isn't a browser engine itself, but it use it inside of it. So there is nothing wrong to say that every Electron's app based on browser engine.
    And it also based on C++, as Blink and V8 are using it 😉 And It also based on assembler, as every program.


  • Gamers

    @spaceboy it only uses the toolkit tho, you can't quite do what you can do with Chromium and still, Atom is one of the best code editors if not the best


  • Hella Assassins Watch Anime Eyes Music Lovers Gamers

    i am those users who don't have the softwares on the desktop but have them in the start menu



  • @JessicaGrant I also did that last time xD lol ima pee my pants xD. Why bother, i just pass on info coming from pros.






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