Creation or Evolution

[wojta]

There doesn't need to be a designer, maybe the patterns and everything is just a way our brain simplifies the world that we see, so that we can focus on the things that matter. It's like an illusion, it's all in the brain. If we weren't there, would the universe even exist? In a sense, we, our brains, have created the universe.

[Γαητα]

If you are asking if the world was made by creation or evolution, then I will go with evolution, though I and many do not really know how the world was created. Evolution seems more logical in my opinion.

[adios]

In regards to this specific question I find myself unable to answer. Evolution should not be "believed", it should be proven. God must be believed, but cannot be proven by positive or exact science.These two ideas are not of their own contradictory.

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[WtfJudith]

@evan-elderson said in Are you a good friend? Why or why not?:

@wtfjudith look at all these topics we are reviving for you... wish someone would revive my topics

this is the oldest topic of your own you've posted

i am attempting to revive this bitch so come on people!!!

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[[[global:former-user]]]

@evan-elderson okay this is an old post but i will answer it.
I believe there is a creator who created this universe and all of stuff around us. That creator may be seems impossible to see, to touch, to hear, since his presence is "undercover". Why? Because he is the creator. If you do believe something, there always be a day when your pray had been granted because of illogical reasons. If you do believe this things, you can ask yourself how can natural disaster such as hurricane, tsunami even volcano erruption could be exist? Moreover you can ask yourself, how can that big bang happen if there is no one as a regulator and a creator who make it happen?
Try to be logic here and separate your faith. You will see there is "that stuff"

[[[global:former-user]]]

@wtfjudith said in Creation or Evolution:

I believe in evolution. I just don't get how a being can create something as complex as our world and if so, how did they come to exist?

Now i see her as a smart ass kid who is being critical of something atm.

[quirky_qwerty]

Really interesting question because there seems to be a natural "evolution" in my thinking about this . Though I was bought up as a theist I never thought 'evolution' to be contradictory to 'creation' per se. Creation is often seen as this spontaneous event... like a 'will' and a 'click of a finger' and you got a planetary body optimized for life, filled with organisms. But can't creation involve an evolutionary progression from an ancestor to give you new species. Like over long periods of time, conditions arise which give rise to simple single celled organisms which then give rise to photosynthetic cells which then allows the support for more complex life forms. What if the 'creator' generates life like this? Can't the creator act as a director for this seemingly random chaotic process?

There is a scientific basis for the Theory of Evolution based on keen observations but I don't it contradicts the possibility of a creator. I don't believe science and technology has (or even probably can) reach a state where it can 'prove' and disprove the existence of god............. But as you can see i don't give straight answers to 'simple questions' . But that's my opinion currently: BOTH hahaha. I warmly welcome other opinions.

[CharlotteBanks]

Big Bang Theory followed by creation http://www.chatutopia.com/the.mosh.pit.html

[Kaleb]

@charlottebanks follow me

[quirky_qwerty]

@charlottebanks Basically lol. I happily take both.

[Kaleb]

@quirky_qwerty u m or f?

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[falcontarious]

i fantasize about rebirth!!!

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[WtfJudith]

@evan-elderson said in Creation or Evolution:

@kaleb said in Creation or Evolution:

@quirky_qwerty u m or f?

If you want to meet people, go into chat. It is getting irritating seeing you constantly try and chat girls up on other users' topics that have nothing to do with M and F chatting. Or you could create your own topic to meet girls.

Keep it up on MY topics and I WILL delete your posts. This is your one warning.

[spaceboy]

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[RenaisanceMan]

@evan-elderson Creation or Evolution? Soooo many ways to shoot down both... and mostly because of the representation of each by people who don't understand either. First off, there are more holes in the Theory of evolution than the fake news being torn apart on social media. What floors me personally is the apparent toting as fact... that which is by its own label, a THEORY. Evolution to me makes zero sense and I continue to see all sorts of contradictions to that popping up in science news. For example, a study on DNA released in headlines just yesterday, announced that 90% of ALL animals appeared on the earth at the same moment in time. (Topic in case you're interested is called DNA Barcoding.)
As for Creationists... Christianity appears to be in such an infancy stage that they don't even understand their own Creator's mandates for them. For example, many creationists believe in the young earth theory putting forth the idea that earth itself is only 6000 to 10,000 years old. They don't seem to notice the reference in Genesis where it talks about the previous creation... where God created them Male and Female... which is before He created Adam. There is support that this means earth's age and the existence of man, are two separate moments in time.
Even the speed of light slowing down is now proven fact... (Australian physicists Sutterfield & Norman) which plays an exponential role in the calculation of aging things. Since light is NOT a constant like we've assumed, it means calculations that could result in millions of years old, may only be thousands of years old.
I don't study this stuff so I can't actually debate it in reality. Lots of folks know way more than me and can make me look ridiculous. However, the more I see the more I'm convinced.
Bottom line, Creation holds my money. Not because I think anyone understands it... but because the more I see discovered or proven in science, the more I see it pointing a LOT more distinctly toward creationism than evolution-ism.