I need help..am pregnant and we broke up with the father of the baby

[Janet]

@ssll-sg holy shit your brain is fucked BOY

[Janet]

@ssll-sg We are talking about creating a human life that SOMEONE has to be responsible for. Don't use other examples to try and make my logic wrong.

[ssll sg]

@The-Mods

'Becauseee the father was part of fucking creating the baby !!! Whether he likes It or not !!!'

but the father(in this hypothetical example) DOESNT WANT the baby,BOY!!!!!!!

youre basically ABSOLVING all the responsibility of the decision made by the mother to continue with the pregnancy

FACT
-the mother decided to continue on the pregnancy on her own

FACT
-the father disagree with the pregnancy and wanted to terminate it

FACT

• the father,whho,i remind you,doesnt want to take any part in rearing the child,he is still responsible to clean up the mess that was made by the mother.

what happens to personal responsibility?
are you saying that the mother is not responsible for her action to choose to continue the pregnancy and gave birth to a child??????????

SHE wanted to continue the pregnancy,then,SHE is the one responsible in raising the kid.

get it?

[Janet]

@ssll-sg FACT

If a pregnant woman decides to have the baby, even if the father did not want the child, the father is not exempt from providing child support for the child. ... In fact, the court looks at what is best for the child, and considers a child's best interest to be served when both parents provide financial support.

laws are laws so your opinion is irrelevant

[ssll sg]

@Janet

what???????
the FIRST PRINCIPLE is the same,buddy!
you claimed that everyone shouldnt do anything that has the possible to reach a bad outcome,didnt you?

dont have sex because you might have unwanted pregnancy(THATS WHAT YOU SAID)

so,whats the difference with

dont use knife because you might stab others?

the severity of the bad outcome of someone stabbing others with a knife is equal or more than unwanted pregnancy,no?

[ssll sg]

@Janet

'In fact, the court looks at what is best for the child, and considers a child's best interest to be served when both parents provide financial support.
laws are laws so your opinion is irrelevant'

i KNEW youre going to say this.

you: durrrrr....its the law,you cant argue with the law....durrrrr

so,are you going to respect the law during the reign of nazi germany that discriminates and killed all the jews?

are you going to respect the law in nigeria or burkina faso thatt a 12 years old can be wed to a 50 years old?

are you going to respect the jim crow laws of segregation,racism and oppression of certain ethnicity?

wow.
youre just a sheep,aint cha,boy???

[Janet]

@ssll-sg said in I need help..am pregnant and we broke up with the father of the baby:

you: durrrrr....its the law,you cant argue with the law....durrrrr

You can cry and whine and give as many examples as you want. Does not change the fact that this is about the LIFE of a child and protecting that life regardless if both parents want that child or not.

If the mother does not want to have an abortion but does not want that child and the father does... that man can sue for child support as well. Its not only about men not wanting a child but holy shit people need to take responsibility for their actions and you are just saying that men can go around impregnating women with no responsibility because HUR DUR THEY DONT WANT KIDS.

[Cold Sun]

@ssll-sg It not a boy.

[ssll sg]

@Janet

see?
you dont even answer anything.you just deflect and avoid talking about it because you KNOW that youre wrong,right?

you think that people shouldnt argue about the law when you wrote

'laws are laws so your opinion is irrelevant'

so,when i gave you the examples of TYRANNICAL and OPPRESSIVE laws out there,you simply ignores it and continue on believing that law is supposed to be infallible and always right?

dear jebus.
you need to educate yourself.
try to use common sense and logic before you write anything.

[Janet]

@ssll-sg Its called not feeding trolls which its obvious you are.

[Cold Sun]

Oh my!🤣🤣🤣

[ssll sg]

@Janet said in I need help..am pregnant and we broke up with the father of the baby:

If the mother does not want to have an abortion but does not want that child and the father does... that man can sue for child support as well.

holy crap!
ITS NOT ABOUT GENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS ABOUT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND FREEDOM!!

if this is the case,where the mother wanted to abort but the father wants to have the child,then,its the RIGHT of the mother to terminate the pregnancy.its in accordance to the women's freedom of choice and its also in accordance to liberty and freedom in general!

if that is the case,i wholeheartedly SUPPORT THE MOTHER!
i will criticize and disagree with the father wanting to pursue legal route to force the mother bear a child that she doesnt want.

do you get it?

[ssll sg]

@Janet said in I need help..am pregnant and we broke up with the father of the baby:

Its called not feeding trolls which its obvious you are

nah.you just dont have any ground to retort or rebuke my simple LOGIC!

thats all.
so,tell me,BOY!
do you think all law are infallible and should be followed and shouldnt be criticized or being under scrutiny of the people?

[ssll sg]

@The-Mods

yeah.i think im going to refrain from talking to you.
judging from the nonsensical ramblings that you wrote as well as incomprehensible sentence structure,i think it will take a long time for me to explain to you why YOURE WRONG!

its an exercise of futility,and i dont think i have the patience to do it.

LOL!

[ssll sg]

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[Eucalyptus]

@ssll-sg Nonono, it means:

• swinging a knife around when there are people around you can result in you stabbing them and them dying, so it's ill adviced...
• driving with your eyes closed can result in you ramming someone, so that is kinda ill adviced as well...
• eating a big load of unhealthy food everyday can result in you becoming fat and ill and can amount to very high hospital bills and you becoming imobile etc... so guess what, that's ill adviced too....

Having unprotected sex can result in all kind of things, so if you're not ready for kids or don't want a disease..
that's ill adviced..

Your point?

[Eucalyptus]

@Undecided Sounds like a tough situation to be in! I hope you figure it out!!

[ssll sg]

@Eucalyptus

try to read the correspondence between me and @Janet.i
believe ive already explained it in details what i meant when i gave that examples.if you still dont understand,then,ask me again.

you know what?
im too lazy to wait.so,heres a simplified explanation

@Janet made a claim saying

''Because having sex has the chance of having a baby. If you aren't capable of taking responsibility of the possible outcome of a child then fucking don't have sex.''

so,she explicitly making a statement that you shouldnt have had sex because the bad outcome would be having an unwanted pregnancy.

so,her first principle is

'dont do anything because of the possible bad outcome that can arise from that'

so,my arguments are that theres plenty of mundane activity that we do in our daily life that can lead to bad outcome as well.so,should we stop doing that?

[Eucalyptus]

@ssll-sg I just pointed out the flaws in your logic..
If you still don't understand. Just read it again a few times, slowly

[ssll sg]

@Eucalyptus said in I need help..am pregnant and we broke up with the father of the baby:

If you still don't understand. Just read it again a few times, slowly

the same goes to you,buddy.
read my previous comment.read it reaaaaaaal slow.k?