Conspiracy theorists unite!

[TheStrangest]

@marija that was a question

[LastTrain94]

@Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

I already talked to a guy who believed in the new world order and illuminati 2 months ago on here so I will just quote what I said from my previous account with some little edits. By the way the guy i was talking to had a character from the anime hellsing ultamite as an avatar so that's why i made a hellsing ultamite abridged alucard guessing that the anonymous ennimies are nazis by saying "MAYBE A LARGE ORGINISED LIKE THE NAZIS" and you won't understand why it is funny unless you want me to explain it to you.

WOW, that went from 0 to a 100 real quick. I thought you were a good free thinker like me until i read more of your comments and realised that you're a fucking lunatic. I agree with what you're saying about the world... but your solutions for reform sound like they're coming from a 12 y.o. kid who watched a little too many conspiracy theory videos on youtube. My solutions for reform go more along the lines of changing the education system to teach philosophy at a younger age so that people doubt authority more and shit like that. You're fucking acting like we're literally in George Orwell's book "1984", in the book just for the sake of the story it's just 1 association that is poisoning people while making them believe that they're free but in reality it's not like there is (unnecessary hellsing reference) a mass organised group like the nazis or what you would call illuminati behind closed doors controlling the news... but it's just the fact that ignorance is what rules the world not intelligence and the idiots that control the news, the government and other things are just ordinary people who were given more power than they deserve and the power was handed to them by other ignorant people which are the majority of humanity and these ignorant people are from everywhere not like what you think which is that they're all from 1 country called illuminati which will kill anybody that realises it's existence. when you think that, then you're ignoring the reality which is that the problem is very out in the open for people to observe and in front of everyones eyes but people are too clouded to see it, by saying that the truth is hidden and until the illuminati is exposed then people will not be able to see the corruption is something that slows down improvement because it's delusional, untrue, just holds us back even more and puts you in the category of the ignorant people making the world worse but your skepticism even though it is illogical it is good aslong as it will lead you to more logical skepticism in the future. You're still partaking in the biggest cause for evil in the world which is religion, so i wouldn't expect too much from you anyways.

[LastTrain94]

@thestrangest your comment makes me wonder what that guy was saying lol. What was his username?

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@thestrangest your comment makes me wonder what that guy was saying lol. What was his username?

His username was @Ilija-Gromovnik and he was talking to a kid who's the same age as me and also my friend called @cephalon. Here is their full convo:

@cephalon said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@Ilija-Gromovnik The issue isn't that we don't care... It's that we can't do anything. Citizens will probably never have control over businesses since the government does a damn good job of keeping them in power over the people. Businesses will continue to do what they want, and we can't stop it. Only the rich and powerful can and they don't give a crap about the rest of society.

You may as well enjoy the comforts of the world while you can, and if by some miracle you /do/ become famous, just remember to do good things with it. Bill Gates is an example of this. He donates millions of dollars to medical research, charity, and education.

It's sad, really. We've dug ourselves into a giant hole, and we're not even the ones digging it anymore.

@ilija-gromovnik said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@cephalon You are wrong about the part that we are helpless against the system , the government and those mega corporations still cant completely function without us aka simple workers so in a sense we do have a lot of power and united we could pull the plug and cut the power supply if we had the courage to do so...you are one of those individuals who is aware of whats going on but you still don't wanna get involved and potentionaly put yourself at risk for the greater good , in the end you are nothing more than a simple pawn of the NWO agenda , they adore such pityful ressitance.

@cephalon said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@ilija-gromovnik If I saw something I could do, I would do it. But it takes such a large collection of people that it's nearly impossible to get everyone to do their part. If I saw other people resisting, I would do the same. But right now, we can't do crap unless by sheer luck everyone decides to put a stop to it all at once.

I completely agree that something needs to be done because we're driving ourselves directly into a wall. But without numbers, I can't do anything meaningful.

@cephalon said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@Ilija-Gromovnik Don't get me wrong, this isn't my first time trying to answer this question. In fact, I've thought about this question so much that my economic views have shifted from free-market to Socialist. I'd love to make some change in the world. But alone, I am insignificant.

@ilija-gromovnik said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@cephalon You can't always wait for others to take initative , sometimes you have to be the one to stand up and take charge , but you are to afraid to do anything...

@cephalon said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@ilija-gromovnik Alright, then. I'll make some change. Where do I start?

@ilija-gromovnik said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@cephalon You can start by spreading the word about this subject , gather as many like minded individuals as you can. There is a lot of things you can do to fight the system and do something good for your family , that is to get as much indeependent from the state as you can , try to buy a piece of land and grow your own healthy food , throw the tv out of your house , stock up on weapons and resources for emergency situation and remove all your money from the bank , do not under any circumstances loan any money from them...those are a few good first steps for you!!!

@cephalon said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@ilija-gromovnik Alright, then. I'll make some change. Where do I start?

@ilija-gromovnik said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@cephalon You can learn to defend yourself and your family without access to firearms , learn some martial art , how to use a knife , stone or spear ...learn useful activities like survivalism , fishing , hunting etc... I'm aware that it is hard to do something without loans but remmember this system controls us trough debt that is a new form of slavery in the 21st centuary!

@cephalon said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@Ilija-Gromovnik About the guns though... I'm bipolar, so I can't get a gun license. And the whole loan thing isn't easy. It's nearly impossible to get your feet off the ground without loans nowadays... I won't be able to go to college or get a good house.

@ilija-gromovnik said in The truth about the world we live in!!!:

@cephalon You can learn to defend yourself and your family without access to firearms , learn some martial art , how to use a knife , stone or spear ...learn useful activities like survivalism , fishing , hunting etc... I'm aware that it is hard to do something without loans but remmember this system controls us trough debt that is a new form of slavery in the 21st centuary!

@Ilija-Gromovnik Alright, I'm in. I'll try to get other people to do the same.

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 i said what i said right after they were done

[LastTrain94]

@thestrangest lmao 😂 know I get your comment

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 by the i found a really good song from a guy i already talked to you about. Wanna hear it?

[KorgLife17]

The Secret Societies (Illuminati/Freemason/Satanic/etc.) are real.

[Friends]

@korglife17 well, illuminati, idk, satanic, idk. But freemasons, i do know. When I was in massachusetts, we came upon this unmarked building with a strange compass like thing on it with 2 rulers, my friend who was with me in the car stiffened and said to give him a minute. He did some strange knocking ritual and a peephole opened where a pair of eyes appeared, they exchanged a few words and he left, visibly shaken and he told me to step on it. I later found out he was a freemason and he just was talking to a freemason congregationalist.

[KorgLife17]

@friends Spooky...

[TheStrangest]

@korglife17 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

The Secret Societies (Illuminati

The illuminati does not exist as commonly described

Freemason

Yeah freemasons exist but they are not a secret society since people know they exist and can try to join them. But also the effects of freemasons in the world are super small and over exaggerated by conspiracy theorists.

Satanic/etc.) are real.

Satanism is real and also not a secret society since everyone knows it exists and there is literally a website for it called the ifficial church of satan. Satanism and the church of satan is not bad but actually a good influence on America and the world. Conspiracy theorists misrepresent the scale of how much the church of satan influences the world and it misrepresents their goals and generally in conspiracy theory culture the illuminati abd satanists are indistinguishable so since the illuminati does not exist then your concept of satanists do not exist.

[LastTrain94]

@thestrangest said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@lasttrain94 by the i found a really good song from a guy i already talked to you about. Wanna hear it?

Yeah sure, lets hear it

[TheStrangest]

@korglife17 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@friends Spooky...

Wtf is so spooky about it. It os just a group of people who like to fucking act stupid around each other. The freemasons are like a more underground version of sciontology, both are just stupid as fuck and both are negative but not big enough to be feard

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 i wanna send you it but i think you will appreciate the lyrics a oot more if you spend 5 min reading the artists wikipedia bio

[LastTrain94]

@thestrangest whos the artist?

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greydon_Square?wprov=sfla1

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 tell me when you are done

[TheStrangest]

@lasttrain94 i need to go to sleep.
Here is the song:

His birthday is 09/28/81 if you don't remember

Lyrics:

[Hook]
...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
When in fact they were never yours to begin with
This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

[Verse 1]
Enter prisoner 092881
No particular kid of interest nobody’s great son
So he enters the system’s revolving door on day one
Comes out a menace the armed forces gave a gun
Sent him to war without warning him
The images he’d store from then on would now torture him
Brought his hyper awareness back to the rear
A soldier who still feels active missing half of his gear
Blood money they trade for his education
So he can learn to describe a state with one single equation
His idol Carl Sagan, his outlet hip hop
He wants to be a physicist, he wants to wreck shop
Sittin at the pawn shop watching the clock stuck
Technically a free man, but still feels locked up
As a result of social conditioning
He actually has something to say but no one is listening

[Hook x2]
...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
When in fact they were never yours to begin with
This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

[Verse 2]
He’s institutionalized on two fronts
Deals with his PTSD with crude blunts
The civilian reality is too much
So much he hasn’t left his house in 2 months
His mood jumps from dealing with rude cunts
Attitude fronts and them asking to do brunch
Every morning wakes up from the same dream
His fate seems status quo, the same thing
With chains free to tight walk the fame beam
He sabotages all the success his name brings
...it’s the baggage of the guilt he walks around with
The psychological scarring you can’t heal with counseling
Feeling guilty bout the fact he actually made it
Wants among the greatest
While he shuns his medication
Munches education
While he punches on the pavement
Cuz he hates it
Imprisoned by the past he’s escapin’

[Hook x2]
...You should never be surprised when you get attacked
You’ll know all the freedoms they took from you when you get em back
When in fact they were never yours to begin with
This is a prison planet you’re serving a life a sentence

[Marija]

@thestrangest Sorry for my late response, I was pretty busy (I had a brief break to up-vote your post).
@thestrangest said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@marija man you are woke for your age and your way of thinking seems to be heading in the right direction. Who have been taking the biggest roles in influencing your way of thinking. Like Noam Chomsky, George Carlin maybe one of the 4 horsemen of neo-atheism which are Sam Harris, Daniel D. Dennet, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens or even maybe just some good scientists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss...

My influences are varied and include those I don't share the views of anymore. As you listed, there's Noam Chomsky who helped me become more left-wing and question US foreign-policy propoganda. Before, I was against some wars but still believed the very lies used to justify many of them. At the time, I was sorta an anarchist (didn't last very long). Then, I'd have to give creds to Michael Parenti who I agree with on quite a lot of things. As far as the New-atheists you listed, I'm not a huge fan tbh. I'm probably an atheist but, like gay marriage, it's one of those issues that doesn't make me that passionate anymore.There's also several big people from history who, while many of them are im-perfect and made many, many mistakes, did lots of good.
@lasttrain94 said in Conspiracy theorists unite!:

@Marija @TheStrangest what do you two think about the whole New World Order idea, collapse of the US economy and currency, world war 3, and the whole idea of an evil cabal trying to take over the world???

With NWO conspiracies, there is usually many truths twisted into really batshit directions. Like, lets take NATO for example. I hate it and what it did to countries like Yugoslavia (now Serbia and Montenegro) and Libya. I agree that the reason they did it was not to stop what they claimed the leaders of these countries were doing (which, probably, wasn't even happening at least not on the scale claimed) but, rather, to satisfy their own economic interests which wanted the resources and labor of countries that weren't willing to submit to their will. But then there's people who claim that the US funded the KLA and attacked Yugoslavia because Albanians are majority-Muslim and this is an evil plot to attack Christians or some crap. Same with anti-Jewish conspiracies. Yes, there is an un-equal economic system but it's not because Jews. Also, many times, Illuminati seems to be a label put on real organizations. Why bother? Just call them NATO, EU, etc.
Basically, what I'm saying is a lot of people who talk about things like the NWO take truths and things I agree with but fantasticize them with fictional elements like plots to turn people gay or aliens or Jews and Muslims are trying to do every single little bad thing in the world or other crap like that.