• What do you think happens when we die? Do you believe in a heaven and/or hell? Do you think we come back as something else? Do you think we become apart of the universes energy? Do you think that its is just nothingness, before we were born there was nothing and when we die there is nothing?
    What do you think?

  • @TheGoldenMole

    I'd love to think that we will come back as something else but something in my guts tells me that's not true.
    I know the memories are stored in your brain and that it's natural that you don't remember anything if you had past existences but that would only mean there's a fixed number of "souls", right?
    Where does this souls comes from? Don't tell me there was always the same exact number of living beings in te planet cuz I won't buy it, so new "souls" just pop out of nowhere?

    So many questions, so little answers!

  • @TheGoldenMole that's it we died

  • You get respawned.
    . . .
    I'm serious.

  • @TheGoldenMole We have two options for death: complete annihilation, since we are products of electrochemical reactions of the brain or a metaphysical life if our consciousness is something distinct and independent, which manipulates the brain as a control panel. In the first absolute nothingness, where all personal efforts are reduced to carrion and dust, while in the second there would be a purpose for individuals to pursue their experiences in another reality without the vicissitudes of organic matter, but dependent on the moral quality of the acts practiced in life (but this from a religious or philosophical perspective - see Plato in his work "The Republic", discussing the soul).
    "Heaven" and "Hell" are psychological perspectives of the creature's emotional state, and can not be taken literally (within the religious hypothesis).
    Becoming part of the universe, returning to the Universal Whole is part of the pantheistic hypothesis.
    All the gears and mechanisms of our life require a "why", an origin and our birth, as well as the causes of suffering have reasons that are not accessible to the domain of a life only, which brings us to "Palingenesia" or Reincarnation as an alternative theory to understand the possible injustices that would be the sources of suffering. Are we organic creatures seeking a spiritual experience or spirits going through an organic experience?

  • @Karina-Kara Into what?

  • @TheGoldenMole
    A human. Again.

  • @Karina-Kara Have you listened to "Waiting room" by logic?
    do you mean like that?

  • @Berin
    Excellent answer.
    And an even better question.

  • @TheGoldenMole

  • @Karina-Kara but do believe we are all one? You will one day be reincarnated into me and I will one day be reincarnated into you?

  • @TheGoldenMole
    I have other assumptions about this "reality".
    In fact, i think we are all test subjects and slaves to the one in control of this world.
    And death only repeats the cycle.
    All of this only for his pleasure and curiosity.

  • @Karina-Kara Do you think the cycle ever ends?

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  • @Lurker For a Christian perspective the known (or unknown) Jesus stated that "the house of the Father has many mansions". Now if there is a creator and the universe would be his work then in this "house" would the dwellings be the infinite orbs to fill these multiverse? Again this man stated that "My Father continues to work until now, and I am also working." Now if there is a dynamic and incessant creation (the universe is expanding as our scientists and new quasars and black holes are formed from stars, "recycling energy and materials), then newly created souls are sown in various orbs not in the biological conformation we call life, but in other expressions unknown to us and inaccessible to our more advanced technological apparatuses.) Souls of human conditions would have the possibility of transmigrating to different orbs to complete their evolutionary experiences, "opening an infinite fan of possibilities "and contributing to less advanced civilizations, as might have happened with the emergence of Homo sapiens and the cultural explosion of the ancient civilizations of radiance, bringing a legacy for the exponential evolution of our terrestrial humanity, whether with Cheops, Imhotep, Hatshepsut, Epicurus , Pythagoras, Socrates, Ieshua, Julius Caesar, Siddhartha Gautama, Lao Tzu, Confucius, Mohammed, Al Jazari, Leonardo Da Vinci, Galileo Galilei, Isaac Newton, Cristovao Colombo, Robert Koch, Einstein, Marie Curie, Pestalozzi, Bonaparte and Stephen Hawking, just to name a few of the souls who contributed to move forward the terrestrial humanity.
    I think of our human history as the journey of souls seeking the best, altering the world around them, even with their mistakes, but perfecting their journey through their bodily existence.
    (Sorry by the long text)

  • @TheGoldenMole I have always thought that when I die I just stop existing. You know it's kinda tiring just being here right now. And I'm a firm believer of God and even I dont know what lies ahead of life but one thing I really want is to cease from existing after. I don't know why I wished for it it's just that I am probably so tired and is done of any beauty or freedom God and his creation can offer.

    P.S. I'm wide awake and bored so I decided to visit XD and fortunately I found this.

  • @Berin

    No need to apologize for the long text, this topic is rather interesting!
    I, myself, am not a believer, in fact I see myself as an atheist, so I don't think there's a creator or anything superior that brought as all here and more about the science and that is why, it's so hard for me to imagine the concept of "souls"... I like to think we have some sort of mystical and spiritual in us but if I can't believe in a creator does it make sense to believe in that? I don't think so... :thinking_face:
    On the other hand, the evolution of humanity doesn't need souls or "orb transmission" in order for knowledge and great minds to be "stored". Our kids are born not knowing anything and they end up learning a whole bunch of things! Those things could have been discovered by themselves or by others, so knowledge can be "stored" and then shown and learnt by us!
    And this is another reason why I don't believe in life after death... If the "soul" of a great mastermind got transmitted to another body, wouldn't that body be equally special and develop even more ideas? If that's the case, we would have an infinite loop of masterminds and that isn't the case!

  • @Lurker Lurker, vi agora que você é de Portugal, certo?

  • @TheGoldenMole
    Well, there’s only one way to find out.
    Are you ready to give up your life for the answer that you seek?

  • @Berin

    Yeah I am from Portugal and I speak Portuguese, you can dm in Portuguese tho, topics should be english :D