If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists)


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    @sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @thestrangest Definition of a mathematician: A mathematician is someone who uses an extensive knowledge of mathematics in his or her work, typically to solve mathematical problems. Mathematics is concerned with numbers, data, quantity, structure, space, models, and change

    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths


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    @sumof1 that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field


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    @sumof1 you do understand that repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make you right


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    @sumof1 Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field
    Every scientist is a mathematician but that's not what you should call them, because mathematicians do more advanced math than scientists. Scientists focus on different problems than mathematicians, mathematicians these days focus on pure maths and scientists focus on applied maths. that's why, to avoid confusion, you should call a scientist with the name of their field


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    @sumof1 i can do the same


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    @sumof1 but if you continue I'll just ignore you because you're a waste of my time in such a case


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    @thestrangest dark books is a website


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    @thestrangest i didn't say i don't like it i said it doesn't interest me. And not liking philosophy doesn't make you ignorant, that's like saying if you don't like geography you're dumb and can't read a map.


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    @thestrangest we always do, it's just how me and you work. We just HAVE to do this everytime. it's how you communicate with me and how i communicate with you, that's how i would attempt to explain it. Just get used to it is what i'm trying to say.


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    @thestrangest said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @sumof1 said in If god created the universe, then who created god? (question for theists):

    @thestrangest the universe is a little bit bigger than a room

    IT'S AN ANALOGUE. JIGGA STOP THE TROLLING THE SIZE OF THE ROOM IN THE ANALOGY IS AS RELEVANT TO THE ARGUMENT AS THE SIZE OF SHREK'S DICK

    Cringe.


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  • @mcurie If you are talking about THE God, then no one. How should one respond to the old schoolboy retort, “If everything needs a cause, who caused God?”

    First, philosophers and theologians do not maintain that whatever exists needs a cause. Instead, they propose that certain things need causes, such as things that have a beginning or things that don’t have to exist.

    If something came into existence at a certain point in time—that is, if it had a beginning—then there needs to be a cause, an explanation, for why it came to be. But if something exists outside of time—like God—then it does not need an explanation for its beginning, because it does not have one.

    In the same way, if something doesn’t have to exist, then we need an explanation for why it does exist. But if something does have to exist—if it is a necessary being, like God—then it does not need a further explanation.

    The things we perceive in the universe, including space and time themselves, appear to have had a beginning, and so they need a cause—a reason why they began in the first place.

    In the same way, each particular bit of matter in the universe doesn’t seem to be necessary. Each could not exist. Therefore, we need an explanation for why each does exist.

    Believing philosophers and theologians thus propose God as the ultimate explanation for these things. But since he is a necessary being that exists outside of time, he needs no further explanation.

    Indeed, the question “Who created God?” is nonsensical, because it amounts to asking “Who created an uncreated being?”

    He was always there, always has been, and always will be. He needs no explanation. He is the creater, he never had to be created.



  • @mcurie I'd love to answer your question, but unfortunately I don't know what you mean by God? What is your definition?



  • Simple: But first, let's put you in God's shoes. Let's say you are a videogame developer, and you create a game. Let's say the people can breathe underwater and there is no gravity. Now, are you subject to those laws? Can you breath underwater or float around? Of course not, because the laws of the video game do not apply to you because YOU CREATED those laws. Now, let's go back to God. God does not have a creator, because he made time. Time has a beginning and an end, because God created time, he is not subject to it. Therefore, he was not "begun", meaning he doesn't have a creator. Hope that made since, I understand that it can be a bit confusing or weird to think about!



  • @mcurie It's simple... Bandai Namco started everything 0_1541677886895_f68823e8-d076-4598-919d-b62a4566a680-image.png


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    @thestrangest suck my dick








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