Posts made by Zack Williamson

@TM

😂😂😂 It's like saying we play basketball and I am the referee hahaha stfu plz you made me laugh seriously .

You should learn how to debate with the people, TM. A constructive debate always has rules. It is not your public chat where you can abuse or assert to write essays to shut my mouth up. You should not participate in a debate if you disagree with the rules on the first place. A debate is not a sport nor it is played, make common sense.

I replied on each and every false thing you said with links and evidence from the Quraan and sunna ..

What if I considered The Koran as legitimate source ? I will show why it does not change the argument. But ofc this will be mine last reply to you as you disqualified to yourself and I do not have time to answer what you write further. You always write what you want to and interpret any verse without citing a single weblink.

now you don't wanna accept it

Now or always ? It is written in the topic initially. Apparently, you did not bother to read the rules

Treatment to disbelievers -

"˹Remember, O Prophet,˺ when your Lord revealed to the angels, “I am with you. So make the believers stand firm. I will cast horror into the hearts of the disbelievers. So strike their necks and strike their fingertips.”
"This is because they defied Allah and His Messenger. And whoever defies Allah and His Messenger, then ˹know that˺ Allah is surely severe in punishment."(8:12-13)

Source - https://quran.com/8?startingVerse=12 (this is how someone writes if they have to post a source; they do not just write (8:12-13)). This is what a weblink is.

"So when you meet the disbelievers ˹in battle˺, strike ˹their˺ necks until you have thoroughly subdued them, then bind them firmly. Later ˹free them either as˺ an act of grace or by ransom until the war comes to an end. So will it be. Had Allah willed, He ˹Himself˺ could have inflicted punishment on them. But He does ˹this only to˺ test some of you by means of others. And those who are martyred in the cause of Allah,1 He will never render their deeds void."

Source - https://quran.com/47?startingVerse=4

Public lashing of fornicators -

"As for female and male fornicators, give each of them one hundred lashes,1 and do not let pity for them make you lenient in ˹enforcing˺ the law of Allah, if you ˹truly˺ believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a number of believers witness their punishment." (24:2)

Source - https://quran.com/24/2

Beating women -

That verse is already mentioned in the wikipedia link I posted first. You failed to counter-argue after making 14 record posts. You did not even care to quote it. You brought your own assertions and then you tell me what I wrote is false.

Also, the contradictory verses were written in the same webpage. You failed to even quote them as well.

evidence from the Quraan

You cannot even spell Koran/Quran correctly and you read it five times. Huh ?

A forum like this https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/extraterrestrial-intelligence is enough for you to think aliens exist.

You failed to counter-argue over the conclusion of NCBI research -

Conclusion: Saudi girls attain menarcheal age earlier than their mothers, reflecting a downward secular trend in menarcheal age.

So, Mother's puberty age > Daughter's puberty age. In Ayesha's time, it was around 15.74. Do the math with Cuzick test for trend (0.049).

@ODIN said in Can Islam really teach ethics to anyone ? Think again.:

I understand your point, perhaps you have learned alot from different legit sources about islam and koran itself.

The reference links of the page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Quran#Notes

Ibn Ishaq is different legit source ? Every islamic work depends on him. In fact, he was the first guy who wrote biography on Muhammad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq

And you came to conclude about how intolerant the quran and islam is toward women and other religions. Thats a good step toward knowing the truth about islamic religion.

The proof is always backed up by evidence. It is very simple to say I have thousand ants in my cupboard. If I tell this to everyone, almost 100% people will ask for the evidence. They are not going to believe me. When people opened my cupboard and recorded the video and showed it to me, I tell them you get to know cupboard does not have any ant. Different sources describe it has ants.

If you wont mind perhaps i would share how i understand islam, koran and different sources describing about this religion

I do mind this. When I mind this, I don't want you to teach me.

Talking about Quran and intolerence toward woman and other religions, in my point of view, i find Koran is actually shows us how blessed woman is in many ways.
The Quran, the holy book of Islam, indicates that both men and women are spiritually equal. The Quran states: "Those who do good, whether male or female, and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged; even as much as the speck on a date stone."

BTW I said all people to argue with evidence otherwise you will be disqualified. Read the rule 2. I am not gonna answer any of your reply.

@TM

190. And fight in Allah’s way those who fight you, but do not commit aggression—Allah does not love the aggressors...Surah al-Baqarah

191. And kill them wherever you overtake them, and expel them from where they have expelled you. Oppression is more severe than murder. But do not fight them at the Sacred Sanctuary, unless they fight you there. If they fight you, then kill them—such is the payback for the unbelievers.
     MUSLIMS SHALL ONLY FIGHT WHEB OPRESSED AND PUSHED BY VIOLENCE FRON THIER HOMELAND FOR OPRESSION IS MORE SEVERE THAN MURDER AS ALLAH SAID.

Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. MUSLIMS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTACK THOSE WHO DO NOT ATTACK THEM BUT ONLY TO FIGHT BACK OR PREPARE FOR A FIGHT IN A WAR OR GHAZWA WHICH MEANS INVADING THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO INVADE US OR WILLONG TO PUSH US OUT OF OUR HOME AND FIGHT US IN OUR RELIGION .

You too violated rule 2 multiple times. As I have already said, don't assert without evidence. I am not gonna answer this. Proof by assertion is a fallacy in logic. Your other arguments contain a forum link which is not an encylopedia nor a individual research website so I dismiss your all arguments. I do not want to read them. I just did read blue letters aka links.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion#:~:text=Proof by assertion%2C sometimes informally,regardless of contradiction and refutation.

@ODIN said in Can Islam really teach ethics to anyone ? Think again.:

I think you should learn about islam from someone knowledgeable, you will get all answers you need and many more.

Why should I learn from them, Ragnar? Sunnis, Shias and other sub-denominations Ahmadiyya, Alawi, Druze, Hanafi, Ismaili, Jafari, Kharijite, Maliki, Shafi, Sufi, Wahabi, Zaidi interpret the Koran in their own ways. None of them interpret every book like Quran though. Even though, their prophets are different. Who is correct or incorrect among them? Btw, I myself read what is written in the Koran. I do not interpret them. I use individual sources.

In the Koran and Islam, you can see the umpteen amount of intolerance towards women and other religions. People who think Quran is the word of God, also think that humans cannot decide what ethics are and only their holy book can decide them. But they often omit the Koran is word of humans so their claim still contradicts themselves.

I do not think I have to prove that they are not the words of God because it contains a lot of contradictions, absurdities, inconsistencies, errors already. God would not commit such mistakes like humans since he is supposed to be an intelligent being. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Quran#:~:text=The most common criticisms%2, concern,evidence%20%22disturbing%20and%20offensive%22.

Who can teach us ethics ? The one who himself married, 6 years old Saudi Arabian girl Aishah and slept with her when she was 9 years old ? Or the one who had 13 wives ?

Sources - 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wives_of_Muhammad

The median age of puberty is declining in Saudi Arabia, so it means the median age of Saudi Arabian's girls' for puberty was higher than now. It was 11 to 14 between 2006 to 2012.

Source- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4673370/

The median age of their puberty was 12 years in Saudi Arabia (2013)

Source - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23640021/

That concludes to 'Aishah was a child and Muhammad raped her'.

To argue for or against such arguments, you have to follow some rules otherwise you will be disqualified-

1. You cannot abuse anyone. People who abuse, lack rational arguments. You cannot argue like this -

2. You cannot cite an unauthentic website especially which lacks any reference. Encylopedias and research websites bring more weightage of evidence to other websites. Do not assert w/o evidence.

@Silly_Na
Ms. Selena, we always add principal to simple interest while calculating repay amount. Instead of adding it up you subtracted it.

Repay amount = P+(PRT/100) [Where P = principal, R= rate of interest, T = Time)
According to your question, you have assumed this formula
Repay amount = P-(PRT/100)

It is a mathematical fallacy that is not only irrational but also covers some craftiness. Therefore, it leads to wrong result.

Your dad and mom gave you 50-50$. You have 100$ now
You bought a t-shirt for 97$.
You have only 3$ now (100-97 = 3)
You gave them 1-1$.
You have only 1$ now (97+1+1 = 99 and 100-99 = 1)

I'll keep $1 for myself.

This is the $1 we're talking about.

97+1+1+1 = 100
Hope this uncovers some craftiness. 😛

@Ash33 said in How to do NNN to get most from it.:

So u have decided to do nnn ? For whatever reason. But not sure if you would succeed in it? Then this is topic for you. (Also for people who r bored and want to read something)
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NNN is overrated because it recommends prohibition from all kinds of ejaculations, not just fapping. ( I am one among those people who are bored and want to read + say something). I won't say whether I decide/(d) to follow it or not.

"No Nut November is an internet challenge revolving around abstinence, in which participants abstain from masturbation, sex and ejaculation,"

Source- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Nut_November

Though wetdreams are too underrated. It is impossible for the most humans to stop nocturnal emissions in their young age.
83% american males have experienced nightfalls
97% Indonesian males have experienced the same. This percentage is vary country-by-country.

For those unmarried young males who have experienced nightfalls, the recurring rate of nightfall is 1 per 20 days.
For those married young males who have experienced nightfalls, the recurring rate of nightfall is 1 per 30.42 days.

Since November has 31 days, I don't think the most young men really follow it. However, 40+ old men whether married or unmarried can follow it because their nightfall recurring rate is 1 per 2 months.

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_emission

If u think by doing only thus u could regulate ur fap addiction. But what about after November? U should change your mindset and look at it as an opportunity.
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We will not talking about fapping is good or bad in this topic.

Okay

We will go at root cause of having urge to do that.

They do fap when they are alone. So being alone can be a reason. I do not know for sure.

Fapping feeling rewarding. It release stress hormones.

It does not release stress hormones. It releases some hormones that relieve you from stress.

Everyone knows it.

But the people who were following nnn regime did not know or pretend to not know it.
They gave these reasons for abstaining masturbation -

1. Perceiving masturbation unhealthy.
2. Aversion to atheism.
3. Sticking to christian doctrine.
4. Masturbation has bad effect on social life.
5. Too much religiosity.
6. Lower trust in science.

Sources - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7145784/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8382266/

But is it only thing that could help us to release stress hormones and feel happy?.

Six other reasons are also responsible-

1. Fapping gives sexual pleasure
2. It cures insomnia for very short-term
3. Some people realise that mutual masturbation is better than doing it alone
4. It increases ejaculation time if it is done before sex
5. It lowers your blood pressure
6. Some people realise it is better to fap alone than getting a partner and have sex with him

No there are a lot of things that make us truly happy.

True

Fapping is easy reward system. That's y mostly people be lazy and procrastinate.
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Idk wdym by the easy reward system.

But problem is for that we need to do work.
So use nnn to break the chain. Make yourself obligate for no fapping but not by force. Just simply shift your force on different things. Explore what stuffs u enjoy doing. Build a hobby. Do some projects.

it does not matter because we are already going to ejaculate.
it matters for some because they don't get nightfalls.

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should I censore vulgar words? 🤔

no

Btw 85% young females also got sleep orgasm xD.

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@Saar said in lets all convert to hinduism:

@Zack-Williamson
Ppl can have multiple sides and behave differently in different situations

Completely agreed

I am not arguing

What are you doing then ?

U asked me for source. So I had to bring it up

1. The definition of violence- : the use of physical force so as to injure, abuse, damage, or destroy.
   Since you concede talking about rapes, murders, genocide cannot go through the screen, you cannot judge someone being violent because it lacks physical force

2. When you talked about the poll, I should have mentioned one more poll in which the most TWSians affirmed that they belonged to Antarctica instead of Europe, USA, Asia or Africa. Would you ever believe 'the most TWSians that participated in a poll are Antarcticans ? If you don't believe in this statement, you won't believe in 'most upper caste guys voted for future evil deeds either.

3. I cannot rape any women without tearing apart her clothes. I cannot murder anyone until I insert my knife or sword into his stomach. Both need physical force and touch in their definitions.

4. You said Europe was peaceful before migration took place. Meanwhile other continents were also peaceful because war chariots and weapons were not invented till that time.

it doesn’t mean that the way they act online is not representative of their mindset

Can you ever check what ppl do say online, are exactly going to do irl ? You said you have hundred examples. Have you ever asked anyone of them about their irl behaviour ?

Ppl do behave diff from irl here because - 1. They need privacy so that others won't know who they actually are. 2. ppl need freedom which they cannot obtain irl. E.g. Zack cannot call Muhammad a pedophile and Allah an ethnic cleanser in front of Muslims irl. If he does so, he will be killed in less than 5 minutes. Zack chooses to rationally argue and proves the statement true which he wanted to say from last 15 years to irl Muslims. Now, online Muslims cannot kill him. He has got freedom online. In contrast to A, B chooses the another way. He does not rationally argue. He becomes a troll to mock em all. 3. Ppl might be joking about anything. You will never know whether they are joking or serious. I.e. Living in Antarctica is joke or not- you won't know . They are either joking or hiding their privacy. Just because you don't have access to their real life facial expressions, you will never know the truth.

Aggressive behaviour does not matter until it converts to violence. My dad owns a factory of clothes and he sells cheap and expensive cultural clothes. Meanwhile, he always convinces his customers to buy expensive clothes because the cheap clothes are defective and have poorer quality. Those who ignore his warnings, buy cheap clothes and a few of them also give death threats to him if he denies to replace them. He has got around 1.8k death threats in the span of 40 years yet he did not get a single scratch on his body by them.

The greater the sample, the better

yet it is limited

just bcz I find some of them funny doesn’t mean I endorse it

How many people were chatting that time ? Do you know their ethnicity and castes ? What were their texts ? Why did you choose only one person selectively and left other persons which could be chosen randomly ?

I have at least several hundred records from throughout the internet. Some groups are extremely overrepresented in certain types of aggressive statements. Some groups almost don’t say such stuffs. So these are statistically significant. If all groups were equally violent, all would behave the same way
I have at least several hundred records

You've at least several 100 hundred records that are chosen selectively like the above ss.

We have to work on as much info we can collect

You*
I just collected them to present counter-argument. I did not collect them to help your hypothesis.

Yes but I wont bcz I dont want to annoy and attack ppl

It does not matter because I have argued v well against diff online and irl behaviour

It matters for the person collecting data

Did you mean an erroneous system pattern the cognitive bias matters that leads to perceptual distortion, inaccurate judgement and illogical interpretation or utter irrationality for the person who is collecting data ?

yes but if I do so, my personal account will be revealed lol

You are lying. You don't have any account on Wikipedia.

The question may arise how I knew you are lying.

This is what I have brought from your posts. You are more proficient than an average image editor.

You can edit an image v well. So, you could hide your username with a paint brush after capturing an ss of editing Wikipedia. You could scroll down a bit to conceal your username. But you did neither the former nor the latter.

Yes, u don’t even need a single source to edit. Just open an account and try it yourself if u doubt me. Theres a lot of misinformation in Wikipedia as spreading misinformation on Wikipedia is very easy

You did not read the content and guidelines of Wikipedia. You cannot write something which is cognitively biased or misinformation carried by zero evidence.

I am quoting the introduction to policies and guidelines which is located in how to make an edit section of Wikipedia

Neutral point-of-view (or NPOV) means that content is written objectively and without bias, merely presenting the facts and notable viewpoints of others. A general-purpose encyclopedia ought not contain articles that favor particular viewpoints. Striving for a neutral point-of-view helps prevent articles from becoming advertisements or propaganda.

Try it! Take a quiz on neutrality

Verifiability means that articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources, such as reputable newspapers and scholarly journals. All content should ideally be supported by a citation, but content that is controversial or likely to be challenged will definitely require one! Unsourced material may be removed at any time, and it is the obligation of the editor adding material to provide a reliable source.

No original research means that articles may not contain previously unpublished arguments, concepts, data, opinions, or theories. This prohibition means that Wikipedia editors' own analysis or synthesis should not be included in articles. Basically, Wikipedia is a record of human knowledge, viewpoints, and summaries that already exist and are expressed elsewhere.

I have tried to edit it almost 5-6 years ago and it did not allow me because I lacked evidence. Thanks to the Roboform which saved my login credentials.

source- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_policies_and_guidelines/2

Lol challenge not accepted and if I edit, my personal account will be revealed to u. but u can experiment on wikipedia

The challenge is not accepted because you are lying.

and if I edit, my personal account will be revealed to u. but u can experiment on wikipedia

If you really cared about your privacy, you would also think about others' privacy. You have collected minor details of 100 persons. How can you know 100% of them spoke truth about their personal details to you even if they want privacy ?

This is not even an argument, I am giving a personal hypothesis which u are free to not agree

I have apathy to say anything about hypothesis. I am interested in only arguments, debates and facts. Thus, I would not bother to reply the points in which you bring up your hypothesis.

This one does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture

Yamnaya culture
The Yamnaya culture (Russian: Ямная культура, romanized: Yamnaya kul'tura, Ukrainian: Ямна культура, romanized: Yamna kul'tura lit. 'culture of pits'), also known as the Yamnaya Horizon, Yamna culture, Pit Grave culture or Ochre Grave culture, was a late Copper Age to early Bronze Age archaeological culture of the region between the Southern Bug...

I am quoting from the Wiki article that you posted

Yamnaya culture
The people of the Yamnaya culture were likely the result of a genetic admixture between the descendants of Eastern European Hunter-Gatherers

Source- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture

Likely, possibly, probably, can be and may be are the words which should be read very carefully. They denote the possibility. They never denote confirmation.

Lol you can include that. Just give a try and undo that later.

I can't

I am putting this topic in not watching because you are not even arguing. Have a good day !

@Saar said in lets all convert to hinduism:

@Zack-Williamson

Eh ? Scientific method is not based on cherry-picking fallacy

They were not cherrypicked

They are cherry picked. If you don’t think you cherry-picked them, you can meet the persons whom I know. They are way better than what you have stereotyped about them.You can meet with a Pakistani Punjabi and N indian Yadav. They are my friends.

You can’t compare two behaviours- 1. online 2.irl. People tend to be very diff from irl here.

Observing online behaviour is perfect for comparison because different people and groups behave entirely different online

than real life

Since I don’t have the privilege to study real life behaviours,

Yet you are arguing with a person whose rudimentary argument was relevant to only real life.

I have no other way but to study online behaviours.

You brought the point of online behaviour. I did not.

Online behaviours can represent to some extent who a person really is.

My 19 friends are situated around me atm. 19/19 = 100% act v diff irl from how they behave online.

Second, online jokes or aggression cannot hurt people. It cannot go through the screen.

Agreed but it is important for understanding the differences in behaviour.

A study on 10-20 people does not prove anything because it is v limited.

Third, what looks aggressive to you, looks funny to me.

I often find them funny as well but rape,genocide,murder,abuse etc are aggressive by definition as they involve aggression whether they are funny or not.

Then try to change your previous posts which encourage others to complain about their online butthurt. Those who think online murders, rapes and genocide are funny would never call accused stupid. Why would you call someone stupid when you are unaffected in the first place ? TLDR: you lied.

Fourth and the most important, you left 2317923 to 3476885 Belgians (20-30% of whole population). 20 to 30 percent was the average of higher caste group in the study. 1 man represents 000043142% of higher castes among Belgians. Nice cherry picking fallacy.

You have to make full use of the sample. The sample is not cherry-picked. It includes any person from a particular group whose behaviour is observable So we have to rely on as much data we get. We never see unadmixed East Asians behaving the way the way West Eurasians(or people who are mixed with them) behave.

Your sample is indeed cherry picked because 1. it leaves more than 99.99% people of the same group. 2. You failed to acknowledge one person’s good deeds. Your study is not even conducted on 1k and that too they are selectively chosen by you.

Do only 2 guys represent more than 450 million indians ? Cherry picking fallacy again.

No. I just gave 2 examples as there are too many other examples to be mentioned. I am mainly talking about males(not females). Based on my observation, extremely high percentage(sometimes even more than 50%) of people of certain ethnicities behave very aggressively and these people mostly come from high socio-economic background. So environment doesn’t play a bigger role here. Genetic differences are the reason as we see different groups behaving entirely differently.

Then mention every Gujarati Yadav. You don’t even have data of all located Yadavs in Gujarat, India.

Could you mention every single username of them ? Who did what ?

Personal experience does not matter because a person can have a cognitive bias already.

My personal experience on social networking sites differ from you anyways

Indians

India is genetically diverse. So different groups will behave differently

Your above points can be summarised in the following fallacious argument-
Premise 1- Zack studied in Saint Paul’s school.
Premise 2- Zack is very aggresive.
Conclusion- Saint Paul’s shool is very aggresive.
However, there are 7.5k other students who studied in saint paul’s school and you cannot judge whole school on the basis of merely a student's behaviour.
No, my observation is entirely based on the sample. If I notice that 50% of the sample is behaving certain way then it is scientific to generalize that group.

Hasty generalisation

I too have so many examples to counter you. I have observed the behaviour of my Dutch, Russians, Danish, Romanians, Germans, Pakistanis, N indians, Japanese friends. Their behaviour is enormously opposite.

Percentage and nuances of behaviour matter and genetic diversity is present even within a homogenous group.
Why did you include Japanese btw? They are relatively unadmixed East Asians.

There are too many other examples which can be mentioned to counter your personal experience. Thus, I would quote wikipedia for your further faulty generilasation which is irrational-

I occasionally edit Wikipedia. Wikipedia is good for quick information but not for in-depth analysis

Could you show me an ss when you edited it ? Have they ever accepted a single edition without 3-4 other sources ? Wikipedia is good for in-depth analysis too.

I challenge you to edit the article ‘indo-European language with your personal experience of TWS and discord.

I don't judge anyone by their online behaviour. You need to research about this topic.

Online behaviour is part of real behaviour.

People behave differently irl because they are aware of consequences.

My friends and me behave diff irl because of something else.

7 reasons why north Indians are more aggressive than S Indians irl.

Prolly right to some extent. But aggression doesn’t only include higher crime rates. It also includes what people do and say and their actions must be observable for studying their behaviour.

Pakistanis are not the most aggressive South Asians. South Asia consists of Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives, SL. The crime index of Afghanistan is the highest in Asia. Check the crime index of Asia yourself-
Get your facts correct. You can check the map which I ssed from above source. Pakistanis have almost equal crime rate to other South Asian countries except Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

I didn’t include Afghanistan because many consider it as Central Asian instead of South Asian.

South Asia is the southern region of Asia, which is defined in both geographical and ethno-cultural terms. The region consists of the countries of Afghanistan[note 2], Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka.

Source- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia

Afghan Pashtuns have around 30% Indo-European admixture(Yamnaya) which is much higher

There is a difference between have and may have. Second, argument from ignorance lacks evidence

Proto-Celtic and Proto-Italic may have developed from Indo-European languages coming from Central Europe to Western Europe after the 3rd millennium BCE Yamnaya migrations into the Danube Valley

Source- your article

than the Pakistani average(20%). So even if u include Afghanistan, my point stands. And Bangladeshis on average have 13% Indo-European admixture which is significant on a population level but they also have 15% Eastern Asian admixture.

Since when 13% is more than 20% though ?

Also, Pakistani grooming gangs...

Crime includes non-aggressive crimes like stealing,drug-dealing,fraud,illegal immigration,tax evasion etc.:
https://ocindex.net/assets/downloads/global-ocindex-report.pdf
But still, crime reports support that Pakistan(unless you consider Afghanistan as South Asian) is more crime-ridden(which largely includes non-aggressive crimes) than other South Asian countries: https://ocindex.net/rankings

Also, crime rates are artificially higher in some places simply due to more reporting of crimes. Example:

Are you debating with me in 2012 or 2022 ? Second. the website has not provided any reference to me to check whether it stated statistics true or not. It is not an encyclopedia either

still, unless you include Afghanistan, Pakistan has the highest homicide rate and Madives has the lowest in South Asia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

So there is a good correlation between having Indo-European admixture and homicide rate and also criminality even if we assume that the crime rates are not simply higher due to more reporting of crimes

Arguing over one country is really nice but it is another cherry picking fallacy to leave other countries lol

You failed to acknowledge african countries which have 10x more homicide rates than Pakistan,

Wherever Muslims reside, the crime rates will always increase. They are fanatics and do not tolerate anything against their religion and PBUH MUHAMMAD

Aggression doesn’t only include higher crime rates. It also includes what people do and say.

Then you need to cite everything they say. You should not cite something which you like only. Nor should you cite something which they say on this website or discord only. What they say on whole internet, must be noticed too.

When did they migrate, according to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_migrations

Read the article carefully. None of them have a direct evidence of migrations. What we have is inferences which need a vast amount of evidence.

http://www.classichistory.net/images/Archives/indoEuropeanArchives/indo_european_migration.jpg

Based on data, archaeologists and population geneticists(e.g. Razib Khan) hypothesize that when Indo-Europeans warriors arrived they killed the local males and bred with the women.

Argumentum ad speculum

Warriors and rapists are aggressive and they gave birth to aggressive children. This can be a reason why populations with Indo-European admixture are often so aggressive.

There is a significant diff between ‘can be’ and ‘is’. An argument from possibility cannot lead to confirmation. All other possibilities must be taken into account as well.

Aryans were never outsiders. The term Aryan belonged to the group of people who used to be Indo-iranians.

I never used the subjective term “Aryan”

Aryan is not a subjective term. The Aryan term is related to migration.

The term Caucasian includes modern and ancient populations of W Asia, Horn of Africa, N Africa, S Asia, C Asia & Europe. Thus, the obsoleted historical classification of races throw your argument out the window.

Right, I should have used “West Eurasian” instead of the outdated term “Caucasoid”

There are only 3 causes of hindu-muslim wars-
1.Hindu political parties motivate hindus to do violence against muslims
2. Economic& cultural factors
3. Demographics
Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India#:~:text=against minority groups.-,Over 10%2C000 people have been killed in Hindu-Muslim communal,3%2C949 instances of mass violence.

I feel so sorry to not find Craig 2.0's genetic diff in the above article

@Saar said in lets all convert to hinduism:

@Zack-Williamson said in lets all convert to hinduism:

Higher percentage of people ?
That study which you did read, concluded only 20-30% belonged to high ranks.

Higher percentage of cruel people. Almost all South Asian groups have Indo-european admixture. So most/all groups will have cruel people more or less. But groups with higher Indo-european admixture will have higher percentage of malicious people.

As I have said, I would grant the former for once yet you can’t prove the latter. I would show you why you can’t prove it.

Could you please give me a source for “higher frequency of Indo-European steppe-related genes cause cruelty, war-like behavior and violence” ?

Such studies can be a bit difficult to be conducted due to cancel culture and political correctness. But we can know that by following the scientific method:

Eh ? Scientific method is not based on cherry-picking fallacy in which a guy judges the all cherries of a tree after eating just a sour cherry of it and then he blames on all cherries to be completely sour. Also, one more time, I ask for the evidence that is enough for backing up your points. Arguments from ignorance are not worth to discuss.

2. Most aggressive people in this website, discord and the Internet in general have high to medium Indo-european admixture:

• A Flemish Belgian in this website regularly attacks, insults & bullies people, says extreme sexual things to women in an aggressive manner, supports genocide, wants another holocaust to kill immigrants, occasionally unprovokedly compares people of certain racial group to monkeys and slaves. Ethnic Flemish Beligians tend to have high Indo-European admixture.

Lmfao. I am laughing so hard. You can’t compare two behaviours- 1. online 2.irl. People tend to be very diff from irl here. Second, online jokes or aggression cannot hurt people. It cannot go through the screen. Third, what looks aggressive to you, looks funny to me. Fourth and the most important, you left 2317923 to 3476885 Belgians (20-30% of whole population). 20 to 30 percent was the average of higher caste group in the study. 1 man represents 000043142% of higher castes among Belgians. Nice cherry picking fallacy.

• A Gujarati Yadav in this website(and discord) supports genocide against certain religious groups in a Nazi style, insults people, talk about fucking people's mothers, upvotes aggressive memes(that support ethnoreligious genocide) on discord sent by other North Indians in this site that supports genocide. He unprovokedly compared certain racial group to monkeys. There are other North Indians(from Uttar Pradesh, Delhi, Uttarakhand etc) and at least 1 Pakistani Punjabi who do similar things and upvotes aggressive contents in this website. North Indians on average have 15% Indo-European admixture.

Do only 2 guys represent more than 450 million indians ? Cherry picking fallacy again.

• A White American man took great pride in destroying countries that criticizes USA and wanted to destroy Japan again. Another white American man regularly says sexual things to random women and talks about fucking people's moms. A White American woman took pride in eliminating Native Americans. A White American girl used to racially insult people. A well behaved nice white american girl compared certain racial group to slaves. A White American boy in this site regularly spammed memes supporting harming & killing people of other groups. White Americans have high Indo-European admixture. Interestingly, a well-behaved White-passing American woman has non-European Jewish admixture.
• An aggressive White Brazilian who indulged in namecalling(sometimes racial) regularly fetishized East Asian women in presence of East Asians. White Brazilians have significant Indo-European admixture. A probable White Australian did similar things.
  *An Iranian guy here was reported to say extreme sexual things against women. Iranians have significant Indo-European admixture.
• A Western French-speaking Black guy fetishized White women and said extreme sexual things. There was an aggressive irrational African American girl who showed anger. Western(and American) Blacks are heavily mixed with whites and they have Indo-European admixture. We don't see unadmixed Africans behave this way.
• A very irrational Moroccan regularly supports genocide(sometimes against his own group), mocks facial features of certain racial group, gets provoked easily and talks about rape. Moroccans probably can have upto 20% Indo-European admixture but not necessarily.

• An ethnic French guy here regularly threatens women/people's moms with rape and murder. Ethnic French have significant Indo-European admixture.

Your above points can be summarised in the following fallacious argument-
Premise 1- Zack studied in Saint Paul’s school.
Premise 2- Zack is very aggresive.
Conclusion- Saint Paul’s shool is very aggresive.

However, there are 7.5k other students who studied in saint paul’s school and you cannot judge whole school on the basis of merely a student's behaviour.

• People in this website who said that they would rather be evil than good were disproportionately of high Indo-european admixture.

• There are too many other examples to be mentioned. But people who tend to say and upvote aggressive contents have significant Indo-European admixture like North Indians, Pakistanis, Pashtuns, Germans, Portuguese, Britons etc. Similar phenomena can be seen throughout the Internet.

I too have so many examples to counter you. I have observed the behaviour of my Dutch, Russians, Danish, Romanians, Germans, Pakistanis, N indians, Japanese friends. Their behaviour is enormously opposite.

There are too many other examples which can be mentioned to counter your personal experience. Thus, I would quote wikipedia for your further faulty generilasation which is irrational-

Hasty generalization is the fallacy of examining just one or very few examples or studying a single case and generalizing that to be representative of the whole class of objects or phenomena.

Source- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization

3. We don't see South Indians online behaving in such an irrational, angry and aggressive way like North Indians do.

I don't judge anyone by their online behaviour. You need to research about this topic.

7 reasons why north Indians are more aggressive than S Indians irl.

1. Higher population- The higher the population of a region is, the more crimes one region has.
2. More unemployment
3. Poverty
4. Weaker law inforcement
5. Misguided morality in some cases.
6. Political Involvement/ protection
7. More illiteracy

South Indians on average have only 5% Indo-european admixture. South Indians irl are also stereotyped to be gentle and effeminate and North Indians are stereotyped to be aggressive. Stereotypes develop from statistics.

Yes. Stereotypes have a reason which is jumping to the conclusion while believing in them. They are not developed from statistics. Use Bayesian theorem which is really developed from statistics.

4. Pakistanis have the highest average Indo-European admixture in South Asia. Pakistanis have on average 20% Indo-european admixture. Some Pakistani groups have much more Indo-european admixture and some have less. Pakistanis are the most aggressive South Asians. Pakistanis immigrants are over-represented in crimes like rape. Some Pakistani Pashtuns who have high Indo-european admixture(at least 30%) and Pakistani Punjabi Rajputs are responsible for genocide.

Pakistanis are not the most aggressive South Asians. South Asia consists of Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives, SL. The crime index of Afghanistan is the highest in Asia. Check the crime index of Asia yourself-

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2020&region=142

The burden of proof lies on someone who makes a claim. Do not try to make a claim if you can cite none proof whatsoever.

5. An imperfect but significant study by Richard Lynn showed that British South Asians and White Europeans are extremely similar in terms of psychopathic behaviour. Too many British South Asians are Pakistanis(who have much higher crime rate than other South Asians).

Get your facts correct. You can check the map which I ssed from above source. Pakistanis have almost equal crime rate to other South Asian countries except Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

I just went to more reliable website- Wikipedia. Murder rate in Afghanistan is 6.7 while the murder rate in Pakistan is just 3.9.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

vs Pakistan

Of the South Asian groups, Pakistanis have on average 20%, North Indians have on average 15%, Bengalis and Biharis have on average 13%, South Indians have on average 5% Indo-European admixture.

6. Europe is believed to be a peaceful place before Indo-Europeans migrated and mixed with native Europeans.

The similarity between bone-structures has nothing to do with race or their origins.

Yes but there is a very significant correlation.

The order of your arguments is incorrect.

Upper caste people have brutally persecuted lower caste people for thousands of years. Upper caste people tend to have higher Indo-european admixture and lower caste people tend to have lower Indo-european admixture. North Indian Dalits have 10% Indo-european admixture whereas South Indian Dalits have 0% Indo-european admixture. North Indian Brahmins have 30% Indo-european admixture. South Indian Brahmins tend to have 15-20% Indo-european admixture

Europe is believed to be a peaceful place before Indo-Europeans migrated and mixed with native Europeans.

When did they migrate, according to you ?

Aryans were never outsiders. The term Aryan belonged to the group of people who used to be Indo-iranians.

Aryan or Arya (/ˈɛəriən/;[1] Indo-Iranian *arya) is a term originally used as an ethnocultural self-designation by Indo-Iranians in ancient times, in contrast to the nearby outsiders known as 'non-Aryan' (*an-arya). In Ancient India, the term ā́rya was used by the Indo-Aryan speakers of the Vedic period as an endonym (self-designation) and in reference to a region known as Āryāvarta ('abode of the Aryas'), where the Indo-Aryan culture emerged.

If you ignore this evidence one more time, I am not going to reply you anymore because I argue with someone who shows me the evidence and does not ignore the facts which are backed up very well..

Aryan or Arya (/ˈɛəriən/;[1] Indo-Iranian *arya) is a term originally used as an ethnocultural self-designation by Indo-Iranians in ancient times, in contrast to the nearby outsiders known as 'non-Aryan' (*an-arya)

Source- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan#:~:text=Aryan or Arya (%2Fˈɛər,' (*an-arya).

To prove something true, you need reasonable arguments and true conclusion which you are lacking of. It looks like to me that I am arguing with William Lane Craig 2.0 who ignores the evidence and presents his speculations and fallacies with his thousand assertions and personal subjective experiences.

Conclusion - The Caucasian race is considered as not-proved theory now

The term "West Eurasian" has replaced "Caucasian"

The term Caucasian includes modern and ancient populations of W Asia, Horn of Africa, N Africa, S Asia, C Asia & Europe. Thus, the obsoleted historical classification of races throw your argument out the window.

P.s. Idk when you replied to me. I was not even notified. I was going through old posts and I found it manually. Tws has so many bugs.

@YOUR-PRIYA said in Help me out !????:

@Zack-Williamson thanks. But what do mean by bobs and vegena can u explain????

Basically bob is a haircut which some guy/girls like. E.g.

Vagene is nothing but underarms.

P.s. I did not make the above meme.

@Blueeee Imagine Dragons

Tap on upload image

or

You can tap on picture

Once you tap on picture, it will allow you to paste a link from imgur. You have to go to imgur first and then you can copy the url with .jpg or .png etc.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson I still dont why does he dislike me so much. Why did he do that shit that day. I'm sure it was a group plan. What do you think.

I have seen many guys and girls doing so. They would do so to know whether someone loves them or not. If you started crying and became so jealous, they would get a clue about your love which you don't want to confess in front of them. You started crying and gave them a whole clue.

I know thinking about the past wont solve anything but I want to know the reason..because all I did was ignoring him and not giving him attention.

Other than making you fool or jealous, I think he might want to teach you a lesson. Afterall, you ignored him and did not give him enough attention.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson if I ask him or his friends he will think I still think about him and again make fun of me in some similar manner.

True. But if you don't ask again and ignore his group's or the guy's existence, he would give up.

He is an asshole I know that. But what happened that day irks me the most. Rest is acceptable

i want you to forget him completely. The more we talk, the more you will remember him. It works like a horror movie. The more you watch a horror-genre movie, the more you remember the leading actress who worked as a ghost.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson no no I didn't mean failing exams was because of me. His mom would tell me he plays video games entire day and doesn't study so..

Ah, I see.

Yes he might have liked me as a friend only. The worst was he would look at me up and down and smirk when he got to know about me crushing. He would watch my pass by sometimes I used to feel uncomfortable even if I liked him. Either he is a pervert or I am reading too much into it.

I don't think smirking ~ perverseness Only If he smirked at you while being in relationship with other girl, I would call him a pervert too.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson the strange part was whenever I used to ask this friend with whom he tried to make me jealous if she liked him she would idk maybe. Then I found out she was already dating a guy from school. This girl and my crush were in same college.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Heycutie earlier this used to hurt me but then I'd assume she actually did me a favour by showing me I don't deserve this guy I deserve someone better.

1/3 probability- she wanted to save you
1/3 probability - she cheated on her bf with your crush. To save the relationship, she lied to you via idk maybe
1/3 probability- your crush made a plan with her to make you fool or jealous. In this case, she will never speak truth to you until he wants her to reveal it.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson I'm sorry I don't want to irritate you by dragging this topic

It is okay

but I have few questions like we both used to be toppers of our class later in college he would fail most of the exams.

There may be many other possibilities for failing those exams other than you. You are not thinking about them. For example- doing another course/job same time, disliking the current subject, emotional/economic imabalance, family problems, spending most time with girls/games/PDA devices etc.

Both our parents are friends. We would text each other in the starting of this situation. He would be chivalrous towards me like allow me to go First, open door for me etc in classes.

I would do the same for a friend whether she is a male or a female.

So it is possible that can be more than lust as for me being a girl it is hard to absorb the fact that the guy I had respect for and liked as a person just thinks me of a sexual prey instead of a girl he at least admires as a friend?

Maybe he likes you as a friend or maybe he was trying to impress you.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson also in childhood his best friend would tease me by his name.

His best friend may be joking for teasing him. Even though my best friend teases me by the name of some girls but it does not mean I love them.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson once he was among with friends. I walked away near him along with my friend. He turned his back looked at me and called my name in low voice. I looked back at my friend she was walking behind me and ignored him. I still think god saved me i am sure he wanted to tell me something that day

I think so too. He prob wanted to confess his love or maybe he wanted an excuse to talk to you.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

Yes I guess even in my case its the same. Even I like him for looks. I dont know how he is as a person as we have never spoken to each other.

Yk it is dangerous to love a guy whom you don't know about anything. Your friend/ his ex saved you.

@Heycutie said in Does he like me? I cant stop thinking about him now. I really want to confess.:

@Zack-Williamson Everyday after classes after crossing the road I would stand on the opposite side. He would be with his friends and would turn his back and stare at me with sad face till I go.

Almost every guy would do the same, if he was physically attracted to a girl currently

@Heycutie Trap - yes
Lust over you - yes
Love you - no

There is a difference between lust and love.

Lust- A chose B because B looks pretty good. The most guys and girls prefer physical appearance and this is where they are wrong.

Love- A chose B because B is quite smart or he has very good sense of humour or he is very loyal that he has not ever cheated any girl in the past etc.

Love is not done while preferring looks over anything else. The guy chose you because he bowed down to his lust.

Basically, he wants to use you like a chewing gum. After he chews the chewing-gum, he will throw it into dustbin.

@Heycutie That looks like a serious relationship to me. If you date him, he will cheat on you with other girl whom he may like in future. So all you can do is, ignore and forget him forever.

@Heycutie
Could you ever ask his ex why he broke up with her ? The guy looks like a fuckboy to me because he left one girl for other. He may not be fuckboy if he was not in a serious relationship. Before judging him, I would know the types of his past relationships too. You can get that info from his other exs.

Generally humans will always be unsatisfied what they get. When I had bicycle, I craved for bike. When I had bike, I craved for the car. When I have the car, I am craving for private jet.

Such kind of incidents have happened with me. One of them is worth mentioning and the most memorable. We studied in the same coaching classes. She stared me a lot until I notice her. When I noticed her, she looked away due to her shyness or pretending to be innocent. Other girls who studied in the same coaching class, stared me in the same way but none of them were as beautiful as she was. She was the crush of every guy in our class. I knew her name after greeting with her. She waited for me to meet after the class everyday. Then I thought if I am going to spend my whole life with a girl, I should research about her. We did not pass our social media yet. I stalked her on social media and got to know that she already had a bf who lives in her hometown. I did not want her to ruin her serious relationship. Thus, I did not tell her bf about it. I eluded myself via not picking her calls and changing the time of classes after talking with the owner of institute. Yet I was gleeful to be single as I got the correct info before we dated. As far as I could judge her, she was unsatisfied with her bf as I am unsatisfied with my car. Her bf is not that handsome.

I'm hanging out with Portuguese and Latinas because I am on beaches for vacations now-a-days. Even if you include all these girls, my 24 girls colleagues, 4k girls from past college, 3k girls from past school, none of them are as beautiful as she is. This is why it is the most memorable lul.

Plus, I don't think stalking is bad if you both mutually like each-other. Stalking is always bad, if it is done over someone who does not love you. It may change like (as friend) into dislike if he does not love/want you. So be careful while asking his ex/exs.