@alwaysstranger , You're really pro in beating around the bush.. Go read more on Human evolution, its obvious all what you have are some observatory sitcoms for evolution while ignoring fundamental of what its actually postulating. .
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger
am really not in the mood of some whatever sitcom you've piled up with flexible story-telling to ‘explain’ observations contrary to evolutionary theory.just discuss briefly to me what is indeed the naturalistic origin of life and its diversity, cos in it lies several unanswerable question.
How did life originate? evolution or by Intelligent designer
How did the DNA code originate?
How did new biochemical pathways, which involve multiple enzymes working together in sequence, originate?
How did multi-cellular life originate?
How did sex originate?
How did blind chemistry create mind/ intelligence, meaning, altruism and morality?
Why is natural selection, a principle recognized by creationists, taught as ‘evolution’, as if it explains the origin of the diversity of life?
How do ‘living fossils’ remain unchanged over supposed hundreds of millions of years ?Except you want tell me it all happened because of probability , chance, randomness without any Intelligent designer..
hopefully , you don't give me another evolution sitcoms
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger .. just pointing out the inconsistency of some scientific fact.. i taught you knew that along,, so much for your arrogance
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger . rubbish.. keeping on eating own words "ohhhhh. Really. Send me 1 link or article where they say that the sun revolves" you're full of shit
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger
links saying the sun rotates and revolveshttps://www.space.com/58-the-sun-formation-facts-and-characteristics.html
http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/milky-way-rotation
https://www.windows2universe.org/sun/Solar_interior/Sun_layers/differential_rotation.html
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger like seriously, "I can't".. hahahahaha.. you're such a joke
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger i never knew you were really this arrogant
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger and I don't know much about your bullshit swirling fantasy .. but most mentions do states that the sun does rotates and revolves... so stop being arrogant and ignorant in the combination
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger like i said, they are two widely separated and unparalleled plain of perspectives
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger whatever terminology dude... the fact that it was static according to scientific fact is inadmissible
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger
Whatever dude, we could agree to disagree,
but your sentiments on Human evolution doesn't holds to who is scientific or not.. at one point in the scientific history all planetary bodies revolves around the sun and sun remain static.. but today that's bullshit of a theory, cos evidence now dictates that the sun is also revolving and not static, keep on waiting until science comes out and tell you that recent facts has change their postulates on Human evolution.. -
RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger rather are you to believe in Human evolution.. you believe your ancestors were apes and monkeys.. bullshit
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger , i got these response and it's so logical to the core and i have also taken understanding from it..
Quran needs to be understood correctly and not literally translated word by word. Its not a text book of science either but provides ample scientific signs to those who actually ponder upon it.
The word yawm which in some places is translated as day, refers to other meanings as well depending upon in which context it is being used. Stages, period, or phases are some other meanings of the same word. Definition of this particular word is also given at another place within the Quran where its says that our one day can be equivalent to many thousand days for Lord Almighty. Point is, it is not our one 24 hour day which is being referred to when time of creation in mentioned.
Quran starts the history of the universe from a phenomenon similar to what was discovered in 1950s, and which we know as the Big Bang.
[21:31] “Do not the disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass, then We opened them out?”
Heavens and the earth in this context refers to what we now call the universe. The Arabic words used for the closed up mass (fa-ta-qa) and the opening of it (ra-ta-qa), very clearly refer to a concept of singularity and its well planned opening, not some random blast or explosion. Interestingly, this verse is also a prophecy, that it’d be the disbelievers (atheists) who would one day made this discovery. Observe the words of this verse again.
Then coming back to your question, Quran has mentioned the creation of the universe in six stages, not in six days, and has mentioned it in seven different verses. It has also divided these stages further, for those who want to better narrow down their research on these stages of creation. As I mentioned earlier, the Arabic word yawm, which is translated as day has also other meanings, stages or phases being two of them.
[25:60] He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six periods, then He settled Himself on theThrone. The Gracious God! Ask thou then concerning Him one who knows. [11:8] And He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods [7:55] Surely, your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods; then He settled Himself on the Throne. [10:4] Verily, your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, then He settled Himself on the Throne; He governs everything. [32:5] Allah it is Who created the heavens and the earth, and that which is between them, in six periods; then He settled on the Throne. You have no helper or intercessor beside Him. Will you not then reflect? [50:39] And verily, We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six periods, and no weariness touched Us. [57:5] He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, then He settled Himself on the Throne.
There can be a long discussion on various signs, hints and directions which these verses provide. But one thing is for sure, they all refer to six stages of creation and a final and last stage of sitting on the Throne.
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger
Expansion of Universe
One of the most subtle discoveries in science concerns the expansion of universe, its tendency constantly to extend its boundaries. This was something completely unknown to the human being until the last century. This mystery is, however, mentioned by the Qur’an in the following terms, which again bear witness to its remarkable profundity when discussing such matters:“We created the heavens with Our strength and power, and constantly expand them”. (51:47)
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger , i understand the fact that you really don't understand something but rather than having a way to express our own approach of views you kinda like tend to become arrogant and dissuasive, The Quran reveals things in manner that shows relevance,
‘When Allaah wills something, all He says to it is “Be!”, once, and it is.’”
And there are many other verses which speak of this matter and explain it.
Once this is established, then why did Allaah create the heavens and the earth in six days?
For example, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Indeed, your Lord is Allaah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He rose over (Istawa) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty)”
[al-A’raaf 7:54]
“Allaah mentions this period – i.e. six days – although if He had wanted to create it in an instant, He could have done so, because He is Able to say to it ‘Be!’ and is. But
He wanted to:Teach His slaves kindness and deliberation in their affairs.
Manifest His power to the angels step by step.
And there is another reason: He wanted to create it in six days because
Allaah has decreed a course for everything, for which reason He He delays the punishment for the sinners, because everything has an appointed time with Him.”
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger , common dude, you could keep the insulting sentiment aside
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger the Quran reveals that " Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them... will they not then believe" Chapter21: verse3... this talking about big bang.. from one infinitely dense singularity
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger The Quran actually postulates the big bang theory , a thousand plus years before science, the Quran talks about the expanding universe
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RE: Hitler killed 6 million Jews & he was a Christian. Does that mean all Christians are Killers & Terrorists?
@alwaysstranger Human Evolution .. Nope.. reasons.. so many, but i will say, it doesn't satisfy concrete logical deduction