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  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest and technological advancement doesn't necessarily mean the improvement of human civilization.

    True but it does 99% of the time. Since technology involves everything used from cognitive science, earth/space science, computer science, médecin...


  • Yeh we are differently going to mars

    It's been a minute and I can't stop laughing at this one.


  • @girlwhois16 why


  • @thestrangest Explaining a joke doesn't keep the humour going.


  • @girlwhois16 sure


  • @thestrangest Going to mars doesn't mean interstellar and mars is not a viable place to survive. It's not going to be good option to live there.

    Just look at your statement and see how many times you have used the words "Likely". It shows that they are not confirmed to happen. Then what are you arguing against? I said,

    When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported.

    They're unlikely. Being f'd by AI is much more likely

    Why are they unlikely? Are you sure about the probability? Are you suggesting that you have something that supports your belief that those are unlikely?

    Who cares about this possibility

    How many dystopian novels have you read? If such class hierarchy is going to exist, common people won't most probably get enough of their basic needs.


  • @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    Religious bullshit might cause that in the US and other religious countries but not every country and when it gets widespread in non-religious countries it will eventually spread to religious ones. This is if religion doesn't generally disappear in the future.

    Yeah, blame it on religion. I have one word for you, "Anti-vaxxers".


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    You mean the 99% of all species that have ever lived are instinct. We didn't kill them all

    extinct*


  • @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest Going to mars doesn't mean interstellar and mars is not a viable place to survive.

    Ok. Interplanetary*

    It will become a viable place to live after simple modifications

    It's not going to be good option to live there.

    WHY

    Just look at your statement and see how many times you have used the words "Likely".

    K. I didn't but sure

    It shows that they are not confirmed to happen.

    WHAT is not confirmed to happen. In my 1st statement i only said "Definitely". We are definitely going to mars, curing aging, becoming able to do advanced genetic modification and what else did i say. As long as nothing horrible happens before the end of the 23rd century all of that will definitely happen

    Then what are you arguing against? I said,

    When we are talking about these things, things that are prevalent now, we should only use things that are confirmed and supported.

    WE ARE

    They're unlikely. Being f'd by AI is much more likely

    Why are they unlikely? Are you sure about the probability? Are you suggesting that you have something that supports your belief that those are unlikely?

    You made the statement. You have the burden of proof to say that they're likely

    Who cares about this possibility

    How many dystopian novels have you read? If such class hierarchy is going to exist, common people won't most probably get enough of their basic needs.

    The population on mars won't be big enough for such a possibility anyways. Would it


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    @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    Religious bullshit might cause that in the US and other religious countries but not every country and when it gets widespread in non-religious countries it will eventually spread to religious ones. This is if religion doesn't generally disappear in the future.

    Yeah, blame it on religion. I have one word for you, "Anti-vaxxers".

    What is that supposed to mean. The only thing holding back things like stem cell research is religion. If genetic modification will be held back by superstition it will be religious superstition. In either case i don't know what anti-vaxxers have to do with this


  • @thestrangest Why isn't stem cell research also termed as yet another arrogant attempt by humans to control nature?

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    @girlwhois16 said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest Why isn't stem cell research also termed as yet another arrogant attempt by humans to control nature?

    😑 because it's important. Not to mention it being fun


  • @girlwhois16 i don't know how trying to remove human imperfections like cancer is arrogant. Stem cell research helps with cancer research


  • @girlwhois16 along with many other illnesses but i don't know what they are. I'm not an expert on stem cell research. I just know it's important


  • @thestrangest

    simple modifications

    Yeah, a Simple modification that requires planning and execution that would require at least 200 hundred years. For one, it doesn't have an atmosphere, then it's doesn't have a magnetic field and also, the temperature variation is too high. We can set up base stations on mars but we won't be able to make it into a habitual planet.

    http://www.science20.com/robert_inventor/blog/ten_reasons_not_to_live_on_mars_great_place_to_explore-118531
    https://www.popsci.com/how-did-mars-lose-its-atmosphere
    http://time.com/4845251/mars-life-toxins-microbes/

    K. I didn't but sure

    Why are you adamant about disagreeing with me? Just take a look and see if you have used the word "likely"?

    You made the statement. You have the burden of proof to say that they're likely

    here you go,
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/here-are-5-ways-the-unthinkable-could-happen-nuclear-war-21522
    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170821-how-prepared-are-we-for-the-impact-of-a-nuclear-war

    and for the dystopian, I don't have to present a proof. It's been the way all these years. It's likely to happen again.

    Then again, these things are probable. Are you sure that they won't happen? I used to the word "What if" to illustrate such themes which shows that they are not confirmed to happen but do have a chance to happen.

    The population on mars won't be big enough for such a possibility anyways. Would it

    One, if the population is big enough then that means it is not a good option. Two, in case of a small number of people leaving the planet, who do you think is more likely to be allowed to survive. Intelligent people; bullshit.

    What is that supposed to mean. The only thing holding back things like stem cell research is religion. If genetic modification will be held back by superstition it will be religious superstition. In either case i don't know what anti-vaxxers have to do with this

    In case you didn't understand, I presented the "Anti-vaxxers" as a proof to show that people can oppose useful things without basing it on religion an why do you think that stem cell therapy is held back by religion? Do you have any proof to offer? I can't find anything to show that religion is a responsible for hold back stem cell research.

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    @sir-devil said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:

    @thestrangest

    simple modifications

    Yeah, a Simple modification that requires planning and execution that would require at least 200 hundred years.

    Yes that's simple. 200 years is nothing compared to the future 1000 year old human lifespan.

    For one, it doesn't have an atmosphere, then it's doesn't have a magnetic field and also, the temperature variation is too high. We can set up base stations on mars but we won't be able to make it into a habitual planet.

    You said it. It will take around 200-300 years. That's nothing

    http://www.science20.com/robert_inventor/blog/ten_reasons_not_to_live_on_mars_great_place_to_explore-118531

    https://www.popsci.com/how-did-mars-lose-its-atmosphere
    http://time.com/4845251/mars-life-toxins-microbes/

    K. I didn't but sure

    Why are you adamant about disagreeing with me? Just take a look and see if you have used the word "likely"?

    I said i agreed without looking. Still didn't look

    You made the statement. You have the burden of proof to say that they're likely

    here you go,
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/here-are-5-ways-the-unthinkable-could-happen-nuclear-war-21522
    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170821-how-prepared-are-we-for-the-impact-of-a-nuclear-war

    K you got me here

    and for the dystopian, I don't have to present a proof. It's been the way all these years. It's likely to happen again.

    Then again, these things are probable. Are you sure that they won't happen? I used to the word "What if" to illustrate such themes which shows that they are not confirmed to happen but do have a chance to happen.

    Didn't i say " X will happen,.... Y will happen and L will happen ASLONG AS NOTHING HORRIBLY BAD HAPPENS before X date" like a hundred times

    The population on mars won't be big enough for such a possibility anyways. Would it

    One, if the population is big enough then that means it is not a good option.

    Not true. It is a good place to survive if something bad happens on earth

    Two, in case of a small number of people leaving the planet, who do you think is more likely to be allowed to survive. Intelligent people; bullshit.

    Rich and intelligent people. Yes

    What is that supposed to mean. The only thing holding back things like stem cell research is religion. If genetic modification will be held back by superstition it will be religious superstition. In either case i don't know what anti-vaxxers have to do with this

    In case you didn't understand, I presented the "Anti-vaxxers" as a proof to show that people can oppose useful things without basing it on religion

    Yeh but anti-vaxxers are rare, right. When it comes to big outcry against something like stem cell research it's always religious people

    and why do you think that stem cell therapy is held back by religion?

    Because it is. It is widely known that it is you can't oppose me on this one

    Do you have any proof to offer?

    Do i really have to. This can't be the first time you've heard about religious people opposing embryonic or normal stem cell research. I'm not going to provide statistics you go do your homework. Here's a simple explanation of what's happening

    Atheist on the topic:

    Other:

    I can't find anything to show that religion is a responsible for hold back stem cell research.

    Search better. This is too widely known for you not to know this

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    @sir-devil i didn't even watch all those vids halfway through. But I'm sure they'll put you up to speed on stem cell research


  • @thestrangest

    It will take around 200-300 years

    That's just a speculation. It might take longer. Then again, 300 years is too long of a time. With the current direction the world is going on, it way too long. There's a lot of chance for many things to go wrong within that time period. I said that it would take more than 200 years but actually, it's just the time required to pump enough CO2 and other stuff to melt its polar ice caps. There's a chance that the artificial atmosphere won't hold up. Even if it holds up, there' nothing one can do about the missing magnetic field.

    Didn't i say " X will happen,.... Y will happen and L will happen ASLONG AS NOTHING HORRIBLY BAD HAPPENS before X date" like a hundred times

    No, you said that things I suggested are unlikely to happen which is in line with my statement.

    They're unlikely.

    Now you are contradicting yourself.

    Yeh but anti-vaxxers are rare, right. When it comes to big outcry against something like stem cell research it's always religious people

    Now, this hilarious and sad. They have brought an outbreak of measles which was cured years ago.

    https://www.wired.com/2017/05/anti-vaxxers-brought-war-minnesota-came-measles/
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/doctor-blames-andrew-wakefield-son-catching-measles-vaccine-mmr-autism-anti-vaxxers-measles-a7813001.html

    Do i really have to. This can't be the first time you've heard about religious people opposing embryonic or normal stem cell research. I'm not going to provide statistics you go do your homework. Here's a simple explanation of what's happening

    They oppose stem cell research but are they the major reason for underdevelopment in Stem Cell Research? You said that they are holding it back but how? Are they actively preventing or disturbing the research? I said that I'm not able to find any source for it. I'm repeating your statement to yourself.

    You made the statement. You have the burden of proof

    You are contradicting yourself again.