@depressed-salad The lack of context. The drawing's nice and the captions are great but it's confusing due to the lack of context. I might get a better understanding after reading the whole thing that you said you posted on your DA.
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RE: Screaming Eggs and Ham (Just tests)
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RE: Screaming Eggs and Ham (Just tests)
What? What is this? Good Drawing tho!
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RE: SEPARATION CAN SAVE PEEPS- STATE YOUR PURPOSE
@willoww What about me?! I started out for one reason. Does that make me a spammer? Am I a spammer?
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RE: What’s with rappers these days all sounding the same, mumbling and / or making meaningless raps?
@justhere It's the tread started by Migos with their "Triplet Style". They had a huge success a few years back with their "Versace" and such a success would almost guarantee such an event. It had also happened before like the South Rap once dominating the industry. Here's a Video by Vox explaining this,
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest said in Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.:
THAT'S THE ONLY ANTI E.S.C. RESEARCH ANSWERS AND ITS RELIGIOUS=EVERYONE WHO WAS AGAINST STEM CELL RESEARCH WAS USING RELIGIOUS LOGIC
THEY ARE RELIGIOUS STATEMENTS
NO FUCKING WAY FOR SECULAR MORALITY TO OPPOSE ESC RESEARCH BECAUSE YOU PRIMARILY NEED TO BELIEVE THE A EMRYO IS A SACRED LIFE FORM WITH A SOUL TO OPPOSE ESC RESEARCH THEREFORE THE ETHICS WAS RELIGIOUS. FUUUUUUUCK. HOW IS THIS NO CLEAR TO YOU
How many times should I repeat? We are talking about a period almost 20 years ago. Back then, it wasn't a widespread knowledge that the embryo can't be considered to be life. Back then, in this context, Secular ethics is not much different from Religious ethics. Can't you see the point?! Back then, almost everyone thought that the embryo was just a tiny form of the baby and thus, killing it would be similar to killing a baby. I will repeat again, it was not a widespread knowledge that embryo can't be considered to be a baby. To have that thought, one doesn't need to think that baby has a soul, he just needs to look at that as a tiny baby.
He thinks that the embryo is a life because of religious reasons like he said "sacred gift from our creator" and the ethics he was holding are religious ethics. Or did you mean burrow of ethics, yeah they also believed it was sacred life and should be preserved because of religious reasons since that's not what scientists stood for at the time and they're not scientists.
Like I said, I don't have anything on bush's statement
Do your own research please. It is very known among secularists and scientists that the reason for the ban of funding stem cell research is strictly religious. I was only explaining this to you, it has always been proven
I have shown you stuff that proved my point that ban was not strictly due to religion. Here's more
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2726839/
http://www.pewforum.org/2008/07/17/stem-cell-research-at-the-crossroads-of-religion-and-politics/We are stuck in a loop. This is getting nowhere.
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
He means the ethical question of weather an embryo is human life or not which has a religious answer that is anti-research
Yes, it has a religious answer but that doesn't mean that everyone opposed it just for that one answer.
THEY ARE RELIGIOUS STATEMENTS
They are
You are repeating my statement. You used the same argument against me once, remember.
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/does_ethics_require_religionethical concerns pondered by scientists and by parents who want to help their children, or who want to have children; recognized widespread religious debate
Again, I talked about this. Religion is shown to be one of the reason. And the rest of the ethical reasons and there's no mention about whether that ethics are influenced by the religion or rather based on a more secular reason.
Here Bush finally stated his belief that life is a “sacred gift from our Creator,” and that he feels compelled to promote the protection of and respect for life.
Now, this is slightly tricky. In here he is saying that life is a sacred gift and it is meant to be protected and the prevalent ethicist (Scientist, doctors, and professor) in that opposition believes that the embryo is a life in itself.
It could either mean that he thinks due to religious reason or since the ethics say that the embryo is a life and he wants to protect and respect lives. You could say that that was a religious statement but you can't prove that his belief of embryo being a life is due to religion or ethics and since I don't/can't find anything to prove or oppose this, I would stop arguing against this.And since We are just repeating the previously done arguments in other statements, I won't be arguing to them too. So, that's it. GG.
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest but not for me, lol! I'm enjoying this. Haha
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest Ah... again are we. First I asked a proper evidence. Like something that has some credibility like an article or something not some speculations from your side. I presented one that in his speech he just included religion as one of the reason and for the reminder he said things that were in the favor of "Ethicist" who are not the same as religious people. Although the statements of "Ethicist" were similar to religious people, they are not one and the same. I need you to provide something that can explicitly prove this wrong, can you?
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@sir-devil I am going to say this one more time. DO you have any proper evidence against my argument or something of significance to add to this argument?
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest and I asked you to show a evidence proving that instead of some video about a scientist explaining the ideology behind the religious people involved in the ban and not explain why religion was the primary reason behind the ban.
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest That thing was finished a long ago. I showed that although Religion actively opposed the research, they were not responsible for that ban, which was the prime example you cited.
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest Are we going back to the same thing again?
I have already argued against that using the article for that time period.
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@sir-devil So, you can do such things but I can't???
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RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest and if you didn't knew about it completely, why bring that up?
You were the one to bring that topic up. I didn't know much about it. What? Should I have accepted what you said, instead of doing my research to find if you are wrong? Are you suggesting that? -
RE: Depression and anti-social issues. We all need help.
@thestrangest and did you knew about the article or the doctors who opposed it.