Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?




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  • @one said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    Ma friend lee this is the best question ever i read on tws I'll give you the answer
    First you are right we choose how to live our lives it's not planned by god but our destiny depends on how we lives our live means if you lives your life in good way without hurting anyone an without doing any bad things then you choosed good destiny already by doing good things it means human chooses his own destiny by doing good or bad things it's depends only on how we lives our live and most important god only helps good peoples for make theirs destiny good an also helps bad peoples to make theirs destiny bad..!

    Spend a couple of minutes reading my debate with @Ragnar-Lothbrok



  • Ma friend lee this is the best question ever i read on tws I'll give you the answer
    First you are right we choose how to live our lives it's not planned by god but our destiny depends on how we lives our live means if you lives your life in good way without hurting anyone an without doing any bad things then you choosed good destiny already by doing good things it means human chooses his own destiny by doing good or bad things it's depends only on how we lives our live and most important god only helps good peoples for make theirs destiny good an also helps bad peoples to make theirs destiny bad..!



  • @ragnar-lothbrok by the way do you know stephen hawking




  • Gamers

    @alwaysstranger as u wish dude



  • @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    it seems you even dont trust the existence of God himself. do you?

    How about we end this discussion with the conclusion that IF an all-knowing god that sends people to hell exists then he's an evil asshole, Ok? And that you can't change your destiny because if a god like that exists he would already know everything you are you going to do in your life, Ok? I don't want to talk to you anymore since you just repeat the same stuff over and over again and it's not fun


  • Gamers

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    haha u won

    I AGREEEE

    but that doesn't change anything

    I AGREE THAT IT WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR YOU BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO READ THIS

    its like this, when God created each soul, he asked every soul to choose its path, living here on earth its like proving for what we choose previously. so it is not Gods fault to create someone jst to suffer in hell, he asked first and we choose

    I DISAGREE

    that means that he didn't know what we were going to chose after he asked

    If he knew what we were going to chose, he knew before he created us that he was creating us just so he can pur us in hell forever which makes him an asshole

    it seems you even dont trust the existence of God himself. do you?



  • @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    haha u won

    I AGREEEE

    but that doesn't change anything

    I AGREE THAT IT WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING FOR YOU BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO READ THIS

    its like this, when God created each soul, he asked every soul to choose its path, living here on earth its like proving for what we choose previously. so it is not Gods fault to create someone jst to suffer in hell, he asked first and we choose

    I DISAGREE

    that means that he didn't know what we were going to chose after he asked

    If he knew what we were going to chose, he knew before he created us that he was creating us just so he can put us in hell forever which makes him an asshole



  • right :)


  • Gamers

    So in the end I'd like to thank both our participants @AlwaysStranger and @Ragnar-Lothbrok for participating, and special thanks to @sarah for bringing this topic back from the dead.


  • Gamers

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

    GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

    So god IF he exists is an evil asshole

    we can change our fate through dua

    Du’a is an act of worship. It is the weapon of the believer and the only thing which can change Fate or Destiny.

    IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE

    IF GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this

    Du’aa’ is very important. It can change the Divine decree and relieve distress. Allah Says in Holy Quran:

    “And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believes in My Oneness and asks Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Surah Ghaafir 40:60]

    So god KNEW while he was creating the universe that these people were going to hell before they even existed. And then he created them just so he can put them in hell forever. What a fucking asshole

    In another Verse, Allah says:
    “And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad PBUH) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me” [Surah al-Baqarah 2:186]

    So people who invoke god not only think that god had set stuff wrong but they also think they can recommend god on how to fix things and put them right again and god is totally ok with that. God doesn't sound like an all-knowing allwise and all-pwerful person

    dude as i said this is fuckn complicated. he the Only one knows why he put it like that. And i believe he is very wise and only True God. not everything concerning his creations and fates that we shall know. he is very wise to let peoples choose their path, and through duaa might chang someones fate.

    IF GOD KNOWS OUR FATE AND THEN YOU CHANGE FATE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR FATE

    Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this, this is the 5th time

    and dnt call him asshole please ffs

    So you are just going to say it's complicated and that you aren't going to disprove anything i said. I won.

    haha u won but that doesn't change anything, its like this, when God created each soul, he asked every soul to choose its path, living here on earth its like proving for what we choose previously. so it is not Gods fault to create someone jst to suffer in hell, he asked first and we choose



  • @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

    GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

    So god IF he exists is an evil asshole

    we can change our fate through dua

    Du’a is an act of worship. It is the weapon of the believer and the only thing which can change Fate or Destiny.

    IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE

    IF GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this

    Du’aa’ is very important. It can change the Divine decree and relieve distress. Allah Says in Holy Quran:

    “And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believes in My Oneness and asks Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Surah Ghaafir 40:60]

    So god KNEW while he was creating the universe that these people were going to hell before they even existed. And then he created them just so he can put them in hell forever. What a fucking asshole

    In another Verse, Allah says:
    “And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad PBUH) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me” [Surah al-Baqarah 2:186]

    So people who invoke god not only think that god had set stuff wrong but they also think they can recommend god on how to fix things and put them right again and god is totally ok with that. God doesn't sound like an all-knowing allwise and all-pwerful person

    dude as i said this is fuckn complicated. he the Only one knows why he put it like that. And i believe he is very wise and only True God. not everything concerning his creations and fates that we shall know. he is very wise to let peoples choose their path, and through duaa might chang someones fate.

    IF GOD KNOWS OUR FATE AND THEN YOU CHANGE FATE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR FATE

    Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this, this is the 5th time

    and dnt call him asshole please ffs

    So you are just going to say it's complicated and that you aren't going to disprove anything i said. I won.

    P.S.
    I have proved that god (IF he exists) is an evil asshole when in this part

    “And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believes in My Oneness and asks Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Surah Ghaafir 40:60]

    So god KNEW while he was creating the universe that these people were going to hell before they even existed. And then he created them just so he can put them in hell forever. What a fucking asshole


  • Gamers

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

    GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

    So god IF he exists is an evil asshole

    we can change our fate through dua

    Du’a is an act of worship. It is the weapon of the believer and the only thing which can change Fate or Destiny.

    IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE

    IF GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this

    Du’aa’ is very important. It can change the Divine decree and relieve distress. Allah Says in Holy Quran:

    “And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believes in My Oneness and asks Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Surah Ghaafir 40:60]

    So god KNEW while he was creating the universe that these people were going to hell before they even existed. And then he created them just so he can put them in hell forever. What a fucking asshole

    In another Verse, Allah says:
    “And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad PBUH) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me” [Surah al-Baqarah 2:186]

    So people who invoke god not only think that god had set stuff wrong but they also think they can recommend god on how to fix things and put them right again and god is totally ok with that. God doesn't sound like an all-knowing allwise and all-pwerful person

    dude as i said this is fuckn complicated. he the Only one knows why he put it like that. And i believe he is very wise and only True God. not everything concerning his creations and fates that we can know. he is very wise to let peoples choose their path, and through duaa might chang someones fate. and dnt call him asshole please ffs



  • @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

    GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

    So god IF he exists is an evil asshole

    we can change our fate through dua

    Du’a is an act of worship. It is the weapon of the believer and the only thing which can change Fate or Destiny.

    IF GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE AND THEN YOU CHANGE THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW THE FUTURE

    IF GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY THAT MEANS GOD DOESN'T KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    Are you an idiot. How many times did i repeat this

    Du’aa’ is very important. It can change the Divine decree and relieve distress. Allah Says in Holy Quran:

    “And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believes in My Oneness and asks Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Surah Ghaafir 40:60]

    So god KNEW while he was creating the universe that these people were going to hell before they even existed. And then he created them just so he can put them in hell forever. What a fucking asshole

    In another Verse, Allah says:
    “And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad PBUH) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me” [Surah al-Baqarah 2:186]

    So people who invoke god not only think that god had set stuff wrong but they also think they can recommend god on how to fix things and put them right again and god is totally ok with that. God doesn't sound like an all-knowing allwise and all-pwerful person



  • @lee-sin if you believe in free will then you plan out your life


  • Gamers

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

    GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

    So god IF he exists is an evil asshole

    Dua is beneficial with regard to what has been decreed and what has not been decreed.
    The Prophet (Peace be upon Him) said: “Nothing can change the Divine decree except Dua.


  • Gamers

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

    GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

    So god IF he exists is an evil asshole

    we can change our fate through dua

    Du’a is an act of worship. It is the weapon of the believer and the only thing which can change Fate or Destiny. Du’aa’ is very important. It can change the Divine decree and relieve distress. Allah Says in Holy Quran:
    “And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believes in My Oneness and asks Me for anything] I will respond to your (invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Surah Ghaafir 40:60]
    In another Verse, Allah says:
    “And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad PBUH) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me” [Surah al-Baqarah 2:186]



  • @ragnar-lothbrok it's simple

    GOD KNOWS YOUR DESTINY AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DESTINY WHICH MEANS GOD DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW YOUR DESTINY

    If god knows everything that means he created some people JUST because he wants to put them in hell forever.

    So god IF he exists is an evil asshole


  • Gamers

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @ragnar-lothbrok said in Did we choose how to live our lives or it's all planned already by GOD ?:

    @alwaysstranger hahahha!! he aint confusing its like
    GOD; i know the future of alwaysstrangr, he will enter on paradise, but let me give him a chance to choose his path

    Alwaysstranger; he be a bad person do somthin bad then he changes and be a good person, or do something that good

    God; oh okay then he choosed the wright path even tho he spent his whole life denying me.

    So god was waiting to find out what i was going to do because HE DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW

    he knows everythng. its like giving you a coin for free, i know that u will use it, but depends on how will u use it, i might know 100% that u will buy a gum

    Oh wow god knows everything

    but thn its yo choice to buy something u like. shortly God knws the future and our destiny.

    But that means that he doesn't know what I'm going to buy because if he already knew what i was going to buy then it's not ky choice since i had no choice

    haha dude u gat a point but this God staff is freakin complicated. i only knw what ive told u, about changing our destiny


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